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Old 06-14-2021, 02:21 PM   #16
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100 - don't overpay and don't be a cheapass! if a woman is willing to do prostate and fetish extras its worth more, especially with good IOP. market rates for everything, and not more. Also - he could have declined the prostate if he was not interested/didn't want like a normal human but he went along with it then shorted her - thats all!
Again Mudd, you are operating under the assumption that you set the rates or are otherwise the authority on rates. News Flash - you don’t and you aren’t.

On a related story, I was at Prosperty Massage on I-10 last week and as I was in the restroom I overheard a couple of providers having some shop talk, to wit.

Provider 1: Mudd just call . . . It your turn, just touch his Mudd-hole and whisper “we do fetish” and he give big tip!

Provider 2: What . . . why . . . poke Mudd-hole make job easier?

Provider 1: He think he alpha so he like to impress everybody.

Provider 2: What is alpha?

Provider 1: Just stupid guy that think he big shot, like to impress, but doesn’t know basic business. What we learn as kids - here they call Business 101 in college.

Provider 2: [laughing uncontrollably] So stupid!

Provider 1: [laughing uncontrollably] I know, right!?
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Old 06-14-2021, 03:44 PM   #17
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Mudd and PKH,

Sorry but I disagree on the +10 for P. In dreams I've had the P action happen and I always saw it as the preference of the provider, and not my choice. I've had it used in instances where I wasn't into it and the provider obviously wanted to finish on time or faster.

Would I pay extra for that? No, it wasn't discussed and I didn't walk in asking for P exploration. It's different if I go seeking that, or a specialist in p exploration, then I'm willing to tip extra and it commands a premium.

In the absence of any value-why pay more?
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Old 06-14-2021, 04:13 PM   #18
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It doesn't take a genius to know the market rates - I don't set them but I am aware of them. I think deep down you are aware as well but either you are a cheapskate or broke - neither is good! A prostate massage is considered an "extra." Hence it costs extra. If you don't want to pay extra bc you are broke or cheap, just decline it and go for a simple HJ. Its really that easy.
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Old 06-14-2021, 04:35 PM   #19
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It doesn't take a genius to know the market rates - I don't set them but I am aware of them. I think deep down you are aware as well but either you are a cheapskate or broke - neither is good! A prostate massage is considered an "extra." Hence it costs extra. If you don't want to pay extra bc you are broke or cheap, just decline it and go for a simple HJ. Its really that easy.
I use repeat business to establish a rapport with several providers, and with that comes information. I have been told by more than one provider that they like to poke the Mudd-hole (do prostate massage) because they can get the guy to finish faster. So, for whom is it an extra?

There may be market rates but either you unaware of how much acceptable variation there is in these rates (for both parties), or you are compelled by your misguided alpha ego to act like a big shot while the ladies laugh their asses off at your expense (both literally and figuratively) - neither is good!
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Old 06-14-2021, 06:09 PM   #20
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Mudd and PKH,

Sorry but I disagree on the +10 for P. In dreams I've had the P action happen and I always saw it as the preference of the provider, and not my choice. I've had it used in instances where I wasn't into it and the provider obviously wanted to finish on time or faster.

Would I pay extra for that? No, it wasn't discussed and I didn't walk in asking for P exploration. It's different if I go seeking that, or a specialist in p exploration, then I'm willing to tip extra and it commands a premium.

In the absence of any value-why pay more?
honestly bro, to each their own. some people like it, some don't... It was just an example and I respect your opinion. I hate discussing "stuff" with the providers. I like it more organic... if it happens, it happens... but that's just the way I like it. I don't want to buy stuff off my grocery list but that's just me. My only point is I don't want people messing up the economy with $100 L1s. That's all. and My dumb ass has overtipped before too. I just try not to make it a habit.
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