Welcome to ECCIE, become a part of the fastest growing adult community. Take a minute & sign up!

Welcome to ECCIE - Sign up today!

Become a part of one of the fastest growing adult communities online. We have something for you, whether you’re a male member seeking out new friends or a new lady on the scene looking to take advantage of our many opportunities to network, make new friends, or connect with people. Join today & take part in lively discussions, take advantage of all the great features that attract hundreds of new daily members!

Go Premium

Go Back   ECCIE Worldwide > General Interest > The Political Forum
test
The Political Forum Discuss anything related to politics in this forum. World politics, US Politics, State and Local.

Most Favorited Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Most Liked Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Top Reviewers
cockalatte 649
MoneyManMatt 490
Still Looking 399
samcruz 399
Jon Bon 398
Harley Diablo 377
honest_abe 362
DFW_Ladies_Man 313
Chung Tran 288
lupegarland 287
nicemusic 285
Starscream66 282
You&Me 281
George Spelvin 270
sharkman29 256
Top Posters
DallasRain70820
biomed163676
Yssup Rider61256
gman4453353
LexusLover51038
offshoredrilling48813
WTF48267
pyramider46370
bambino43221
The_Waco_Kid37406
CryptKicker37231
Mokoa36497
Chung Tran36100
Still Looking35944
Mojojo33117

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-30-2020, 02:01 PM   #151
WTF
Lifetime Premium Access
 
WTF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 1, 2010
Location: houston
Posts: 48,267
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lustylad View Post

The current federal budget is $4.8 trillion, so you need to come up with over $1 trillion in spending cuts.

Where do you want to start, chungy?
How about we start where ever it was you received your education.

Hypocrisy U, you now after four years of record deficits and stagnant GDP rates....are back to being concerned about the debt!
WTF is offline   Quote
Old 12-30-2020, 02:04 PM   #152
WTF
Lifetime Premium Access
 
WTF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 1, 2010
Location: houston
Posts: 48,267
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiny View Post
The Captain should show his face around here more. When you and he engage in discourse it's always entertaining, and the rest of us learn something.
Some of us have already learned who the idiot is in that conversation....
WTF is offline   Quote
Old 12-30-2020, 02:08 PM   #153
WTF
Lifetime Premium Access
 
WTF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 1, 2010
Location: houston
Posts: 48,267
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainMidnight View Post
.

Of course, valuations of all classes of risk assets are likely to take a heavy hit if Treasury yields even remotely begin to "normalize."

.
Jimmy Carter would have to be reelected for that to ever happen.

These rates are in fact the new normal.

IMHO.






WTF is offline   Quote
Old 12-30-2020, 04:20 PM   #154
oeb11
Valued Poster
 
Join Date: Dec 31, 2009
Location: dallas
Posts: 23,345
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WTF View Post
How about we start where ever it was you received your education.

Hypocrisy U, you now after four years of record deficits and stagnant GDP rates....are back to being concerned about the debt!

If you believe Biden/Harris will change wtf's economic allegations ( they didn't exist - it is a LSM Lie) - You are mistaken.
Until the Wuhan virus hit - minorities had record employment and the economy was record setting- and what went wrong is Blamed on Trump by DPST 's indoctrinated by the LSM.

The harris administration will destroy America's economy . Along the lines of AOC, Bernie, and radical Socialist economist advocate FauxaHontas.

and - both parties are at fault for 'teh' overspending.

The Founding Father did not forsee deficit spending by the Government - and failed to enact a Balanced Budget requirement for' te'h Nation in the Constitution.



harris, after usurping biden - will lead America towards a Maduro model of Socialist totalitarian control , hyperinflation, and the worst economy ever in America.
oeb11 is offline   Quote
Old 12-31-2020, 03:27 PM   #155
Texas Contrarian
Lifetime Premium Access
 
Join Date: Mar 29, 2009
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 3,341
Default More on Robert Shiller's "ECY" Valuation Metric

.


Just saw this earlier today ...


Speaking of Robert Shiller's modified index (as I was in post #150), here's a fuller discussion of the issue along with the famed economist's current thoughts:


https://americanconsequences.com/mak...-stock-prices/


.
Texas Contrarian is online now   Quote
Old 12-31-2020, 05:46 PM   #156
Tiny
Lifetime Premium Access
 
Join Date: Mar 4, 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 9,001
Encounters: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainMidnight View Post
For instance, Robert Shiller (of CAPE fame) has been writing recently about what he refers to as "excess cape yield" (ECY). It's a bit of a twist on the old idea of the "Fed model," essentially a somewhat simplistic metric for judging whether equity markets are fairly valued by taking into account trend 10-year T-note rates.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fed_model

Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainMidnight View Post
.


Just saw this earlier today ...


Speaking of Robert Shiller's modified index (as I was in post #150), here's a fuller discussion of the issue along with the famed economist's current thoughts:


https://americanconsequences.com/mak...-stock-prices/

.
Using Shiller's 10 year average P/E as a measure as to whether a market is overvalued or undervalued makes sense to me. The ECY does not, and looks more like a way to explain current high valuations. I suspect it doesn't hold across long time periods in multiple markets. Japan may be a poster child. The P/E of the Nikkei hasn't been hugely higher than ours, unless you go back to the early 2000's. I don't know what comparative 10 year real bond yields have been for the U.S. vs. Japan, but suspect not low enough to justify "low" Japanese P/E's. If you've got real rates close to "0", then based on the Wikipedia article (not the same as ECY, but similar reasoning), shouldn't stocks sell for infinity? Same argument more recently for Germany.

OK, I haven't been particularly aware of 10 year real bond yields in emerging markets when currency and economic crises were occurring. But I remember plenty of situations when interest rates go sky high, much higher than inflation, oftentimes because of pressure from the IMF. Equities plunge, because the economy goes into recession, earnings plunge, many companies have problems repaying debt. But, perhaps more importantly, who's going to buy shares selling for mid-cycle P/E's of 3 (earnings yield of 33%) when you can get 50% interest rates on local currency government bonds? I lived through something like that when working in Indonesia, and it was the ideal time to buy shares. You could have made a bundle and I did. Something similar happened in Argentina, Russia, Brazil and other markets over the last 20 years. Now maybe ECY still works for these examples -- again I wasn't following long term real rates. Still, intuitively, this looks like something that explains the present well but may not stand up to the test of time.
Tiny is offline   Quote
Old 03-27-2021, 04:13 PM   #157
mdooos
BANNED
 
Join Date: Aug 31, 2019
Location: London
Posts: 73
Default

The current federal budget is $4.8 trillion, so you need to come up with over $1 trillion in spending cuts.
mdooos is offline   Quote
Old 03-27-2021, 04:40 PM   #158
oeb11
Valued Poster
 
Join Date: Dec 31, 2009
Location: dallas
Posts: 23,345
Default

Thank u for bringing back this very current and cogent topic!
oeb11 is offline   Quote
Old 03-28-2021, 03:39 PM   #159
mdooos
BANNED
 
Join Date: Aug 31, 2019
Location: London
Posts: 73
Default

This prediction is floating around for many years. At least, I have been coming across it for more than twenty years. But at the same time, people keep making good money on forex trading, read about it on tradersunion. This online resource will acquaint you will all nuances of speculations on the financial markets. It is a very interesting industry, and you can become a part of it.
mdooos is offline   Quote
Old 03-29-2021, 09:01 AM   #160
rexdutchman
Valued Poster
 
rexdutchman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1, 2013
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 12,555
Encounters: 22
Default

Yes to leave china in charge ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
rexdutchman is offline   Quote
Reply



AMPReviews.net
Find Ladies
Hot Women

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright © 2009 - 2016, ECCIE Worldwide, All Rights Reserved