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Old 01-28-2021, 01:44 PM   #16
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I had the same problem when I asked for anything Biden accomplished during his 47 year political career. Make that 47 year 8 day career
Can you name a Senator that actually made significant accomplishments while in office? There may be 1 or 2 but the majority put in their time with littleto nothing sigificant to show for it.

What Joe Biden Has Achieved in 40 Years of Politics

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-a...litics-1541278

Biden has long list of accomplishments

http://www.mississippivalleypublishi...5e9fab77b.html
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Old 01-28-2021, 02:12 PM   #17
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IF you want to redefine socialism, a term that has existed for I don't know how long, then yes, some if not many of Biden's proposals would fall under the "new" definition of socialism.

Social Security and Medicare are not considered socialism because they are funded by individuals and their employers.

"Social Security and Medicare are two separate programs administered by the government, but funded by individuals and their employers. The government does not contribute any funds into the programs. In order to qualify for each of these programs an individual must have worked and contributed for a minimum amount of terms. If one qualifies for Social Security then you automatically qualify for Medicare. Note the term qualify.

Socialism is where the government provides services to all, irrespective of whether they contribute."


https://www.mcall.com/opinion/reader...212-story.html

But you generalized and did not name a specific policy proposed by Biden that is socialistic, under the old or new definition.

Regarding capitalism. I supported Trump's tax revision but I thought those with lower incomes should have been given more than those with higher incomes. I received a nice tax break, one that I did not really need. Does that make me a socialist?
You asked for an opinion, I gave you one. More government is the new definition being used by many people. If you don't like that definition, to bad.

I'm not saying that you must accept my definition. You are asking why some are calling his policies Socialist and I explained why, more government involvement..

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Opinions are like assholes. I'm from Missouri...Show Me.
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Old 01-28-2021, 03:46 PM   #19
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The Democratic party is the party of china, china ain't no where near dead.
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Old 01-28-2021, 04:08 PM   #20
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dim party is doomed! 2022 will be a blood bath followed by a win for the Republicans for the Wh in 2024
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Old 01-28-2021, 04:24 PM   #21
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Uh, I thought Dixie was dead. Obit posted 1/20/21.
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Old 01-28-2021, 04:29 PM   #22
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Rebel Yell
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Old 01-28-2021, 05:24 PM   #23
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Opinions are like assholes. I'm from Missouri...Show Me.

Show you what, that many Americans define Socialism as more government instead of less government that Conservatives prefer?


You have the right to tell me that I can't re-define a word and that I must accept somebody else's definition and I have the right to tell you that I will continue to re-define any word I choose to. It's called free speech. You get to tell me that in your opinion, I'm wrong and I get to tell you that in my opinion, you're wrong and the people reading this can decide for themselves who is right and who is wrong. To suggest that the meaning of words can't/ have never changed is naive at best, ignorant at worst.


https://ideas.ted.com/20-words-that-...ery-different/


20 words that once meant something very different


Words change meaning all the time — and over time. Language historian Anne Curzan takes a closer look at this phenomenon, and shares some words that used to mean something totally different.

Words have been changing meaning — sometimes radically — as long as there have been words and speakers to speak them.


https://www.virtuescience.com/etymol...over-time.html



Etymology is the study of the origins of words.

As languages develop the meaning of words can change over time. This causes confusion and misunderstanding when communicating with other people.



In my opinion, this is what has happened to the word Socialism. Like it or not, millions of Americans are re-defining the word and millions of people like you, are apparently upset that people are re-defining a word that you insist is sacrosanct. It isn't.



So when people like SR want to argue the meaning of Socialism, I was merely trying to explain how the word has acquired a different meaning whether one likes it or not. When people accuse Biden and Democrats of Socialist ideas, some, not all are referring to bigger government involvement that they do not want. Recently, Scandinavian Counties were asking Americans to stop calling them Socialist countries because they didn't think they were.



https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/denmark-tells-bernie-sanders-to-stop-calling-it-socialist/




Denmark Tells Bernie Sanders It's Had Enough Of His 'Socialist' Slurs

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The Danes apparently have grown weary of Sen. Bernie Sanders insulting their country. Denmark is not a socialist nation, says its prime minister. It has a "market economy."
Sanders, the Democratic presidential candidate who calls himself a socialist, has used Denmark as the example of the socialist utopia he wants to create in America. During the Democrats' first debate last month, he said "we should look to countries like Denmark, like Sweden and Norway, and learn from what they have accomplished for their working people."
While appearing in New Hampshire in September, Sanders said that he had "talked to a guy from Denmark" who told him that in Denmark, "it is very hard to become very, very rich, but it's pretty hard to be very, very poor."
"And that makes a lot of sense to me."
So because something makes sense to him, he has the right to force that system on people who don't want it? Isn't that what he's saying?



And if you want to say that a words definition or meaning can never change, you are bucking history.



Just look at at how the word "Gender" has changed in just the last few years. Some people not only want to re-define the word, some people want to eliminate it as obsolete and will argue to the death "their" meaning.



So instead of telling me that nobody has the right to re-define the word Socialism because Webster's has the final say on such matters, continue to make an argument why I'm wrong in your opinion but don't try and tell people they can't re-define a word which happens quite often.

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" I have the right to tell you that I will continue to re-define any word I choose to."

No problem agreeing with you "right" . Thing is no one knows WTF your saying if you don't use common usage. Point is, if one uses a term, it should be substantiated with credible proof.
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Name One that is not Progressive /Socialist/totalitarian.

wiping out thousands of jobs - for the socialist marxist ideology
apologists for the cabal criminal regime will one day have a reckoning and rue their support for the marxist radicals in power over a puppet fiden.

Oeb11. I assume you are referring to stopping the Keystone XL pipeline. That's all about protecting the environment and curbing climate change by limiting the growth of bitumen oil sands production in Canada. How is that a socialist marxist ideology. You appear to be massively misinformed on the issue.
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You asked for an opinion, I gave you one. More government is the new definition being used by many people. If you don't like that definition, to bad.

I'm not saying that you must accept my definition. You are asking why some are calling his policies Socialist and I explained why, more government involvement..

Your welcome.
Again I will ask the question, independent of which definition of socialism you choose. You continue to talk in generalities, now saying that Biden is supporting "more government involvement". So I ask which policies that Biden is promoting are leading to that?
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The trump cult still bitchin huh.



communist Trey - you did hear that Trump is no longer the POTUS????
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Again I will ask the question, independent of which definition of socialism you choose. You continue to talk in generalities, now saying that Biden is supporting "more government involvement". So I ask which policies that Biden is promoting are leading to that?

Parsing - and denial - TDs and Trump hatred exemplified.
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Oeb11. I assume you are referring to stopping the Keystone XL pipeline. That's all about protecting the environment and curbing climate change by limiting the growth of bitumen oil sands production in Canada. How is that a socialist marxist ideology. You appear to be massively misinformed on the issue.

You are to be massively misinformed on the issue.
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" I have the right to tell you that I will continue to re-define any word I choose to."

No problem agreeing with you "right" . Thing is no one knows WTF your saying if you don't use common usage. Point is, if one uses a term, it should be substantiated with credible proof.

use the words you wish - 'r'



Unstated in 'your right" - is you demand all other people bend to your own DPST/ccp word definitions and usage - with severe punishments (re-education camps) for those who disagree with U!
Included is enforcement of teh socialshit ideology/religion the DPST/ccp worships - along with Comrade Xi!
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