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[Strokey_McDingDong]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

Then he should have thought better before using the word riot.

Definition of riot




1a: a violent public disorderspecifically : a tumultuous disturbance of the public peace by three or more persons assembled together and acting with a common intent

He said riots are the language of the unheard, but he condemned rioting and violence in the previous and subsequent sentences. So, again, the quote is taken completely out of context. That entire interview was about how violence and riots are bad and how much he believes in remaining peaceful in his protests.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

It would be amusing to see 75 million Americans drop off Twitter ( since I was never on, I can't be counted ), stop using Apple products, stop using Google as a search engine, stop using Facebook and boycott Amazon. That last one isn't likely because it is just so damn easier than going to a brick and mortar where you can't find what you are looking for anyway but HellYes! Drop off Twitter, Facebook, ( which are useless anyway ), Apple and Google.


Far from bringing unity to the country, the Biden administration, history will show, continued to divide the country to it's extremes.

well that's the thing, maybe only 10 million americans were ever on twitter anyway, the rest are dimocrats

many like you, and me, were never on it, we recognized it for what it is

as far as facebook, now there is where all the mom's and pop's of America can make a dent,

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Strokey_McDingDong

He said riots are the language of the unheard, but he condemned rioting and violence in the previous and subsequent sentences. So, again, the quote is taken completely out of context. That entire interview was about how violence and riots are bad and how much he believes in remaining peaceful in his protests.

Kinda like Trump did all fucking summer condemning the riots and violence by the left? In Trump's speech called his "call to insurrection", he asked that people peacefully make their way to the capital to cheer on the objection to certifying electors in much the same way Democrats did in 2006.


https://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS...ral.vote.1718/


Democrats challenge Ohio electoral votes

Move delays official certification of presidential election

Thursday, January 6, 2005





Alleging widespread "irregularities" on Election Day, a group of Democrats in Congress objected Thursday to the counting of Ohio's 20 electoral votes, delaying the official certification of the 2004 presidential election results.

The move was not designed to overturn the re-election of President Bush, said Ohio Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones and California Sen. Barbara Boxer, who filed the objection.

The objecting Democrats, most of whom are House members, said they wanted to draw attention to the need for aggressive election reform in the wake of what they said were widespread voter problems.

Now where have we heard that before? Oh yes Jan 6th 2021


In a letter to congressional leaders Wednesday, members of the group said they would take the action because a new report by Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee found "numerous, serious election irregularities," particularly in Ohio, that led to "a significant disenfranchisement of voters."


Now where have we heard that before? Oh yes Jan 6th 2021


"How can we possibly tell millions of Americans who registered to vote, who came to the polls in record numbers, particularly our young people ... to simply get over it and move on?" Tubbs Jones told reporters.


Said Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz on Jan 6th 2021


The House of Representatives and Senate met Thursday afternoon in a constitutionally mandated session to count the electoral votes. Vice President Dick Cheney, in his role as president of the Senate, presided over the session.
The results from each state, read in alphabetical order, were ticked through quickly until Ohio was called, and a clerk read the letter of objection from Boxer and Tubbs Jones.


Cheney then ordered the lawmakers back to their respective chambers for two hours of debate on the merits of the challenge.


Wait, you mean that was a legal maneuver used before by Democrats?


It is only the second such challenge since the current rules for counting electoral votes were established in 1877. The last was in 1969 and it concerned a so-called "faithless elector," according to congressional researchers.


Four years ago, after the disputed election results in Florida, members of the Congressional Black Caucus attempted to block Florida's electoral votes from being counted.


In a scene recalled in Michael Moore's movie "Fahrenheit 9/11," lawmaker after lawmaker was gaveled down by Vice President Al Gore because no senator would support the objections, as the law requires.


House Democrats involved in this year's protest worked for weeks to enlist the support of a senator in their party, and Boxer agreed to join the effort Wednesday.


"This is my opening shot to be able to focus the light of truth on these terrible problems in the electoral system," Boxer told a press conference.
"While we have men and women dying to bring democracy abroad, we've got to make it the best it can be here at home, and that's why I'm doing this."


If one member of each body of Congress objects, congressional rules require that lawmakers return to their chambers to vote on the merits.
A simple majority vote in each chamber would overturn the challenge -- something that should be easily achieved in the GOP-controlled Congress.
Republicans dismissed the effort as a stunt, noting that specific allegations of voting problems in Ohio have been investigated by journalists and, the Republicans said, found to be untrue.


"But apparently, some Democrats only want to gripe about counts, recounts, and recounts of recounts," said Rep. Deborah Pryce, an Ohio Republican.
"So eager are they to abandon their job as public servants, they have cast themselves in the role of Michael Moore, concocting wild conspiracy theories to distract the American public."


White House press secretary Scott McClellan dismissed the challenge as "partisan politics."
"The election is behind us," he said. "The American people now expect their leaders in Washington to focus on the big priorities facing this country."
Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic nominee for president, released a letter Wednesday saying he would not take part in the protest.


"Our legal teams on the ground have found no evidence that would change the outcome of the election," Kerry said.
Bush carried Ohio by more than 118,000 votes -- the Buckeye State win providing the margin of victory in the Electoral College race. The president received 286 to Kerry's 252 electoral votes.


"There are very troubling questions that have not yet been answered by Ohio election officials," the senator from Massachusetts said.


This is where you substitute Hawley and Cruz


"In the coming months I will present a national proposal to ensure transparency and accountability in our voting process."



https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/o...ral-votes.html


Democrats Have Been Shameless About Your Presidential Vote Too

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

Kinda like Trump did all fucking summer condemning the riots and violence by the left? In Trump's speech called his "call to insurrection", he asked that people peacefully make their way to the capital to cheer on the objection to certifying electors in much the same way Democrats did in 2006.


https://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS...ral.vote.1718/


Democrats challenge Ohio electoral votes

Move delays official certification of presidential election

Thursday, January 6, 2005





Alleging widespread "irregularities" on Election Day, a group of Democrats in Congress objected Thursday to the counting of Ohio's 20 electoral votes, delaying the official certification of the 2004 presidential election results.

The move was not designed to overturn the re-election of President Bush, said Ohio Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones and California Sen. Barbara Boxer, who filed the objection.

The objecting Democrats, most of whom are House members, said they wanted to draw attention to the need for aggressive election reform in the wake of what they said were widespread voter problems.

Now where have we heard that before? Oh yes Jan 6th 2021


In a letter to congressional leaders Wednesday, members of the group said they would take the action because a new report by Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee found "numerous, serious election irregularities," particularly in Ohio, that led to "a significant disenfranchisement of voters."


Now where have we heard that before? Oh yes Jan 6th 2021


"How can we possibly tell millions of Americans who registered to vote, who came to the polls in record numbers, particularly our young people ... to simply get over it and move on?" Tubbs Jones told reporters.


Said Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz on Jan 6th 2021


The House of Representatives and Senate met Thursday afternoon in a constitutionally mandated session to count the electoral votes. Vice President Dick Cheney, in his role as president of the Senate, presided over the session.
The results from each state, read in alphabetical order, were ticked through quickly until Ohio was called, and a clerk read the letter of objection from Boxer and Tubbs Jones.


Cheney then ordered the lawmakers back to their respective chambers for two hours of debate on the merits of the challenge.


Wait, you mean that was a legal maneuver used before by Democrats?


It is only the second such challenge since the current rules for counting electoral votes were established in 1877. The last was in 1969 and it concerned a so-called "faithless elector," according to congressional researchers.


Four years ago, after the disputed election results in Florida, members of the Congressional Black Caucus attempted to block Florida's electoral votes from being counted.


In a scene recalled in Michael Moore's movie "Fahrenheit 9/11," lawmaker after lawmaker was gaveled down by Vice President Al Gore because no senator would support the objections, as the law requires.


House Democrats involved in this year's protest worked for weeks to enlist the support of a senator in their party, and Boxer agreed to join the effort Wednesday.


"This is my opening shot to be able to focus the light of truth on these terrible problems in the electoral system," Boxer told a press conference.
"While we have men and women dying to bring democracy abroad, we've got to make it the best it can be here at home, and that's why I'm doing this."


If one member of each body of Congress objects, congressional rules require that lawmakers return to their chambers to vote on the merits.
A simple majority vote in each chamber would overturn the challenge -- something that should be easily achieved in the GOP-controlled Congress.
Republicans dismissed the effort as a stunt, noting that specific allegations of voting problems in Ohio have been investigated by journalists and, the Republicans said, found to be untrue.


"But apparently, some Democrats only want to gripe about counts, recounts, and recounts of recounts," said Rep. Deborah Pryce, an Ohio Republican.
"So eager are they to abandon their job as public servants, they have cast themselves in the role of Michael Moore, concocting wild conspiracy theories to distract the American public."


White House press secretary Scott McClellan dismissed the challenge as "partisan politics."
"The election is behind us," he said. "The American people now expect their leaders in Washington to focus on the big priorities facing this country."
Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic nominee for president, released a letter Wednesday saying he would not take part in the protest.


"Our legal teams on the ground have found no evidence that would change the outcome of the election," Kerry said.
Bush carried Ohio by more than 118,000 votes -- the Buckeye State win providing the margin of victory in the Electoral College race. The president received 286 to Kerry's 252 electoral votes.


"There are very troubling questions that have not yet been answered by Ohio election officials," the senator from Massachusetts said.


This is where you substitute Hawley and Cruz


"In the coming months I will present a national proposal to ensure transparency and accountability in our voting process."



https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/o...ral-votes.html


Democrats Have Been Shameless About Your Presidential Vote Too

Nothing but a bunch of shameless hypocrites but at least now you know you are.

[HedonistForever]

And in 2017, they did the same damn thing.


11 times VP Biden was interrupted during Trump’s electoral vote certification

Vice President Joe Biden presided over a joint session of Congress Friday, where members officially tallied electoral votes from the 2016 presidential election. President-elect Donald Trump’s 304 electoral votes weren’t counted without incident, however. During the course of the certification, House Democrats tried to object to electoral votes from multiples states, with Biden gaveling them down for failure to follow the rules.
Objections to the votes needed to be in writing and signed by both a member of the House and a member of the Senate. Every House member who rose to object did so without a senator’s signature.


1:09 P.M. ET: Rep. Jim McGovern of Massachusetts rose to object to the certificate from Alabama.
“The electors were not lawfully certified, especially given the confirmed and illegal activities engaged by the government of Russia,” McGovern said.
Biden denied McGovern on the grounds that he didn’t have a senator’s signature on his written objection.


1:14 P.M.: Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland rose to object to 10 of Florida’s 29 electoral votes.
“They violated Florida’s prohibition against dual office holders,” Raskin said.
Again, despite the fact that Raskin pointed out that he had his objection in writing, he failed to get a senator’s signature.


1:15 P.M.: No sooner had the Florida question been settled than its neighbor to the north was the subject of another objection, when Washington’s Rep. Pramila Jayapal objected to Georgia’s vote certificate.

1:21 P.M.: Rep. Barbara Lee of California brought up voting machines and Russian hacking when she objected following the counting of Michigan’s votes.
“People are horrified by the overwhelming evidence of Russian interference in our election,” Lee said.
Once again, her objection was denied for the lack of a senator’s signature. They also turned off her microphone.


1:23 P.M.: After New York’s tally was read, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas stood up to object.
“I object on the massive voter suppression that included –” Jackson Lee began.
“The debate is not in order,” Biden interrupted. Again, the congresswoman lacked a senator’s signature.


1:28 P.M.: Arizona’s Rep. Raul Grijalva rose to object after North Carolina’s tally. He tried to object on violations of the Voting Rights Act, but Biden shut him down.
As you may have guessed, he didn’t have the signature of a senator.
Once he gave up, Jackson Lee tagged him out and tried to object to the votes herself. They cut off her microphone, too.
“There is no debate. There is no debate. There is no debate,” a visibly agitated Biden said as he gaveled.


1:31 PM: Jackson Lee made another appearance minutes later after South Carolina’s certification.
“There is no debate in the joint session,” Biden said, shutting her down once more.


1:36 PM: Biden must have thought, after five minutes of peace and getting through the state of West Virginia, that the House members might observe the rules. Lee wasn’t even able to make it through her objection before Biden said, “There is no debate.”
They cut off her microphone again.


1:37 PM: Wisconsin’s votes had been read. With just Wyoming to go, the finish line was in reach.
Jackson Lee once again tried to make an objection on the grounds of Russian interference in the election.
“The objection cannot be received,” Biden said.


1:38 PM: The final state’s votes had been read. Then entered California Rep. Maxine Waters.
Taking a play from her own book – she objected to the certification of George W. Bush’s 2000 election – Waters admitted that she didn’t have a senator’s signature on her objection.
“I wish to ask: Is there one United States senator who will join me in this letter of objection?” Waters asked. Through House Speaker Paul Ryan’s chuckle and boos from the rest of the chamber, it was clear that there was not.


1:40 PM: The states were counted, but three protestors started yelling from the visitors’ gallery of the chamber. At least one of them was reciting the Constitution as he was taken away by security.
Biden did not look thrilled.
But at the end of the day, despite the objections, Trump’s election was certified by Congress.


Twice Democrats tried to throw out the certification of electors but only when Republicans tried the same damn thing, did it become an attempt to over throw a dully elected President and "a threat to our Democracy".

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

And in 2017, they did the same damn thing.

Twice Democrats tried to throw out the certification of electors but only when Republicans tried the same damn thing, did it become an attempt to over throw a dully elected President and "a threat to our Democracy".

dems are hypocrits on this, they get to complain about it, but not the republicans???

[1blackman1]

Impeachment day is upon us. Good couldn’t come fast enough.

WE MADE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

[Lucas McCain]

LOL. Who in the fuck gets impeached twice? What kind of disaster and unstable president do you have to be to pull that off?

I understand trying to accomplish goals in a new year but shit, at least make them productive goals like losing weight or some other bullshit. Getting impeached a 2nd time and likely having criminal charges awaiting isn't exactly what I consider a productive goal to bring in the new year.