Why would you vote for Donald John Trump?

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Physicians require long training and hours to be licensed.

they will be replaced out of hand by nurses in the new , Brave - Universal No Care for Nobody by Bernie.

most of all - Bernie will outlaw elective plastic and reconstructive Cosmetic Surgery - not acceptable to Bernie
he has already made those points.

if you think america had deaths from Wuhan virus - just until the Bernie viruses arrive!
Putin and Xi are laughing with glee at what the radical marxist DPST's are doing to
America.

part of the problem is with the corrupt AMA's role in price setting in the medical field. its more of a cartel in that sense.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by lbbguy

We think alike and I would love to meet you, however, you live in the California part of Texas... Come see us in west Texas

California part of texas??? lol!

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Good luck. Hope you are able to go the fast-track route on the degree.

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

For me.. I'm more than willing to take a financial risk in terms of breaking out of a job to "be my own boss"... but, I can't take the health care risk. Right now, health insurance is the ONLY think that binds me to my current role. Don't get me wrong, I love my job-- but the writing is on the wall for the subset of the industry and I can't imagine my current position lasting more than 2-3 more years (that's why I'm working on the MBA).

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

part of the problem is with the corrupt AMA's role in price setting in the medical field. its more of a cartel in that sense.

DF - nonsense - the AMA does not set prices, or the custom that patients are not informed of prices up front.

Medicare - US government-_ is responsible for most of the price setting in the US markets - it is the standard by which insurance companies Pay.

[nevergaveitathought]

well it is true patients served or admitted know nothing of the charges

they are not supplied a price list, they wouldn't know how to interpret one except in the simplest of cases and then in the immediacy of service or complication, no disclosure would serve any purpose

service related to a known matter, barring complications and unforeseen length of service, could be disclosed but with the intermediary of an insurance policy, price disclosure of even these services would have little to no utility

elective service is about the only type for which price disclosure makes sense , and that is already done because it is direct patient pay

the third party insurance policy has mostly removed pricing considerations a patient might have ever had

insurance policies tend to have the effect of price escalation, to the insurance company from the service provider, and then to the policy holder or policy payor from the insurance company

so it is a circle, vicious or not, you decide, and all ultimately falls upon the nations economy

[mrmxmr]

i havent read the previous posts so im a bit unsure where we are at in this thread but im going to talk about a different perspective possibly many havent thought of relative to the election.

there are aspects to this election talked about over and over and theres charts and articles telling each side but there are also aspects below the surface between the lines so to speak not talked about a whole lot.

There are a lot of smart people in this world and actually each of us has a certain level of intelligence that has been molded by our life experience. We record thoughts and ideas that shape us and create an algorithm that is our beliefs and what we become as an individual. Some of the smartest individuals in the world have little structured knowledge yet through their life experience they have developed a profound level of education and skills. Each of us has a certain level of knowledge and has earned the right to use it in the way we choose.

There is also the human condition good and bad where who we are becomes an instrument of what we believe and most often this is a good thing.

Other parts of our condition are passion, motivation and emotion but also envy, exploitation , selfishness and insecurity.

We are a puzzle of many pieces individual in nature yet similar in many ways .

Through life variables many are situated in positions where they become leaders and their natural inclination is to contribute the positive aspects they possess to others, moved by passion , driven by hope, they strive to make things better , to help others in areas of their life where they lack knowledge or opportunity , and that is a good thing .

At the same time knowledge and position can create a bad thing judging us as a whole and making decisions we dont agree with , ignoring our knowledge and taking away our freedoms under the guise of a greater good or based on their beliefs not ours.

Where the electorate differ is where many different levels of belief collide and passion and emotion take over . One choice is ours by voting but the a more important choice is the candidate that gives us the freedom to choose whats important to us not the candidate that tells us what we should support . The real choice is to see ourselves as who we are and what we believe not how others see us or tell us who we have become or need to be.



So those in power feel they have the knowledge to make decisions for us based on their knowledge and sense of purpose. we have the choice to accept what they believe or we dont , that is our freedom.

for thousands of years this dynamic has existed those in power deciding for us what they feel can better our world and our lives, and sometimes this has worked but mostly it didnt , Those being told what they should believe decided to find a better way and came to this country to find a freedom from those deciding for them ,and those who ignored their ability to decide for themselves .

Now to today, we have a choice in voting , but we also have a choice in deciding for ourselves if we accept decisions and viewpoints that leaders have made for and about us . Do we decide we have the choice to acknowledge or reject them having the right to decide for us as a whole. Do we accept we are a racist country or half the country hates women or the earth is doomed or do we reject that we are of that belief.


Do we believe that each of us individually can decide who and what we have become and what we believe or accept some generality that describes the entire country . One is individual freedom , the other the antithesis of individual freedom. Its up to us to choose who we are and what we believe not what a leader or group is deciding and telling us who we are.

That is the decision you must make do i accept the freedom to judge myself and measure my own knowledge and beliefs or do i accept what i am told i am and who ive become .

for 200 years
Many have died to give us the choice of freedom or the choice to put aside who we believe we are and accept what another tells us who they think we have become.

Its very clear the choice is freedom, or give up your freedom to another because you have not the knowledge to even realize the freedom you are about to lose. !

[orallvr69]

>Well I will not post much then. Putin needs support for his appointed one in a pay to play site lol n >smh n Wtf barely???




But Hillary lost even after she got help from the Russians.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by oeb11

DF - nonsense - the AMA does not set prices, or the custom that patients are not informed of prices up front

You are right that AMA doesn't set prices, but they do have alot of influence with government to set prices high artificially, how many hospitals to keep open, how many medical schools needed. there is a deliberate shortage of them.

Medicare - US government-_ is responsible for most of the price setting in the US markets - it is the standard by which insurance companies Pay.

gov. being influenced by ama and big pharma and other vested interest who want medical socialism.

[toolmaker7769]

Because my 401k is up $100,000 over this time last year. In spite of the covid fiasco.

[winn dixie]

Why vote for Trump? The only way in keeping America great!

[PythonLeeJackson]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

This must be all positives. You are not allowed to say anything or mention Biden, Hillary, or Obama. You can't say, he is not Biden. No, your reasoning must be about what makes Trump not just a candidate but the better choice as president.

Hillary???? Hillary who?? Gotta wake up Cornhole.....Hillary is looooooong gone.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by PythonLeeJackson

Hillary???? Hillary who?? Gotta wake up Cornhole.....Hillary is looooooong gone.

Cant imagine you really believe that! cuntillary is in the shadows pulling strings for the dnc!
The biden family crime syndicate has learned all the clinton tricks!

[matchingmole]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

This must be all positives. You are not allowed to say anything or mention Biden, Hillary, or Obama. You can't say, he is not Biden. No, your reasoning must be about what makes Trump not just a candidate but the better choice as president.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

California part of texas??? lol!

The Occupied Socialist cit of Austin?

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

The Occupied Socialist cit of Austin?

and its occupied burrows underground sheltering mindless DPST minions!