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Originally Posted by HedonistForever
I can't remember what city it was in but there is a White guy standing in his shattered glass display window, a storefront of some kind and he is speaking to some "protester's" out side and he asks "are you trying to get Trump elected, because that's what you are doing".
Will this violence and an improving economy be enough? Don't know but what I do know is more and more people are talking about it everyday and while incredibly enough, some do blame the violence on Trump, many more see it differently. Those are not Trump supporters doing the burning and looting. In recent days some Trump supporters have taken to the streets to counter BLM and Antifa which has given the Democrats and media just enough of an opening to say "look, the White Supremacists are out killing the peaceful protesters who happen to be burning and looting but we've already decided that ain't no big deal".
So to the guy who said "we plan on continuing this right up till election day", I say, I hope so. As much as I deplore this violence, if it leads to a Trump re-election, it just might be worth it, not to the business owners who have lost everything but to keep the whole fucking country from losing everything with a Biden/ Harris election. And if they keep the House and manage to take the Senate, it will just speed up the eventual disaster that will surely befall this country.
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like this? strange that the LA Times thinks that being for Law and Oder stokes racial bias ..
New Trump ads stoke racial bias among white people in Minnesota and Wisconsin
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-ads-sto...140054396.html
President Trump resumed television advertising after the Republican National Convention with two racially charged commercials airing in Minnesota and Wisconsin, battleground states racked by social upheaval after recent violent police encounters with Black men.
but no mention that the black men resisted arrest .. odd yeah?
Trump's ads show how he is trying to replicate his 2016 success in stirring racial resentments of white voters in Upper Midwest regions that have struggled for decades with a painful decline in manufacturing jobs.
His
Minnesota spot shows people leaping through broken storefront windows with arms full of stolen merchandise and protesters watching a Minneapolis
police precinct burn down during unrest that erupted after George Floyd, a Black man, was killed in May by a white officer who knelt on his neck for more than eight minutes.
“Lawless criminals terrorize Minneapolis. Joe Biden takes a knee,” a woman says of Trump’s Democratic challenger before an image of Democratic
congresswoman Ilhan Omar of Minneapolis wearing a hijab flashes on screen. “The weak response from Biden and radicals like Ilhan Omar has led to chaos and violence.”
The
ad Trump is airing in neighboring Wisconsin highlights demonstrators last month in Kenosha hurling debris and fireworks at police in riot gear after an officer in the small city outside Milwaukee shot another Black man,
Jacob Blake, seven times in the back in front of his three children. Blake, who was paralyzed from the waist down, remains hospitalized.
no mention of resisting arrest, having a weapon, a knife, of sexual assault and grand theft auto on a woman who had a restraining over on Blake. hmmm....
Trump's
false depiction of Biden as a champion of arsonists and vandals who have marred a small portion of the recent nationwide protests against police brutality and racism led the former vice president to respond with
his own ad in Minnesota, Wisconsin and other battleground states.
"I want to make it absolutely clear: Rioting is not protesting," Biden says in the ad. "Looting is not protesting. It's lawlessness plain and simple, and those who do it should be prosecuted."
Biden also accused Trump of fueling the unrest himself by
refusing to discourage armed right-wing vigilantes from joining police confronting Black Lives Matter protesters.
"Fires are burning, and we have a president who fans the flames," Biden says in the spot. "He can't stop the violence, because for years he's fomented it."
Biden didn't say or do shit for 3 months. now he's suddenly a Law and Order guy, because it's hurting him in the polls.
David Paul Kuhn, author of "The Hardhat Riot," a book on white blue-collar voters, said the Biden response was essential to blunting the impact of Trump's racial appeals in the Great Lakes states.
“I think the Democrats should be concerned if Biden takes his foot off the gas on taking control of the 'law and order' issue and not letting it be Trump's,” he said.
Minnesota and Wisconsin are among the whitest states in America. Minnesota's population is 79% white; Wisconsin's is 81%. The nation as a whole is 60% white, 19% Latino, 13% Black and 6% Asian American.
Trump's new ads have run more than 1,800 times over the last week in Minneapolis, Rochester and Duluth in Minnesota and in Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, La Crosse and Wausau in Wisconsin, according to Advertising Analytics, an ad tracking firm. The wide reach suggests that rural and small-town voters are as much a target as those in the suburbs. Facebook variations of the ads have been viewed overwhelmingly by men, according to the social media company.
Trump won rural areas by enormous margins in 2016 and hopes to do so again in part by drawing thousands of votes from people who normally skip presidential elections.
It's unclear whether his racial appeals can win back suburban voters, especially women with college degrees, who have been
abandoning the Republican Party in droves during Trump's presidency.
Marquette Law School
polling shows that support among Wisconsin's white voters for Black Lives Matter protests dropped from 59% in June to 45% last month, just before the shooting of Blake in Kenosha. At the same time, white voters' disapproval of Trump's handling of the protests remained high, ticking upward from 55% to 57%.
Anna Greenberg, a Democratic pollster, is skeptical about the effectiveness of Trump's approach, especially with suburban women. They want "calm and order," she said, but see Trump as contributing to chaos.
"They feel like we're more divided than ever, and they want us to not be this way," she said. "Conflict is scary. Racial conflict is even scarier."
In 2016, Trump's nativist appeals were crucial to his narrow wins in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, the states that sealed his electoral college majority even as he finished 2.9 million votes behind Hillary Clinton nationwide.
oh my. that popular vote thing again. should i tell the LA Times it's all about the electoral college?
Trump lost Minnesota by just a 1.5% margin. No Republican presidential candidate has won Minnesota since Richard Nixon in 1972, but Trump has targeted it again.
His effort to reap political gain from the racial turmoil over Floyd's killing recalled his attempts in 2016 to tap into white voters' discomfort with the tens of thousands of Somali immigrants in the Minneapolis area.
At a
Minneapolis rally two days before the 2016 election, Trump lamented "large numbers of Somali refugees coming into your state without your knowledge, without your support or approval, and with some of them then joining ISIS and spreading their extremist views all over our country." He gave no specifics to back up his charges.
Trump portrayed himself as a staunch ally of Black Americans at the party convention. But his new ads reflect his opposition to the largely peaceful Black Lives Matter demonstrations of millions of Americans denouncing racial bias in the criminal justice system.
thee it is again .. largely peaceful. if they say so! bahhaa
Trump's racial appeals in battleground states scattered around the country are fraught with risk as he struggles to gain support in the suburbs of cities such as Phoenix; Detroit; Philadelphia; Charlotte, N.C.; Atlanta; Houston; and Orlando, Fla.
"He's trying to use these incidents of violence to unnerve white voters, particularly in the suburbs," said Lawrence Jacobs, a political scientist at the University of Minnesota.
It's not just the sporadic outbreaks of violence at the protests that could work in Trump's favor, he said. Jacobs suggested that some of the rhetoric that Minneapolis liberals have used recently to question white privilege was alienating rural and small-town white voters long beset by economic troubles.
"The push for racial justice is certainly speaking eloquently about Black identity, and understandably so," he said. "There's not much appreciation for how it's also triggering white identity, and it's creating a tremendous opportunity for Donald Trump to swoop in."
