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Old 08-28-2020, 01:20 PM   #76
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When it comes to vaccines it seems a lot of posters want to bring up Polio and the years before and after the vaccine. That was a much more genuine time in America, 2020 is different. I don't think Doctors or Government Health Official or Politicians are nearly as genuine as they would like us to believe. So I question everything they say.

I bring up Polio because of a personal experience which highlights the benefits of that vaccine and wish it had been available sooner.


You should question everything "they" say but you might not want to "dismiss" everything they say out of hand. That would be equal to believing everything they say. Both can have disastrous consequences like anti-vax parents who fail to vaccinate their children and then watch them die from a preventable disease..


https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/whatifstop.htm


A final example: what could happen.

We know that a disease that is apparently under control can suddenly return, because we have seen it happen, in countries like Japan, Australia, and Sweden. Here is an example from Japan. In 1974, about 80% of Japanese children were getting pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine. That year there were only 393 cases of whooping cough in the entire country, and not a single pertussis-related death. Then immunization rates began to drop, until only about 10% of children were being vaccinated. In 1979, more than 13,000 people got whooping cough and 41 died. When routine vaccination was resumed, the disease numbers dropped again.
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Old 08-28-2020, 01:26 PM   #77
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Thanks to all for the support.
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Old 08-28-2020, 01:31 PM   #78
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Amen - SR
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Old 08-28-2020, 01:40 PM   #79
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HF writes well and truthfully - unimmunized kids flood into America from south of the border - and bring preventable diseases like pertussis (whooping cough) - measles, mumps. polio.typhoid, and on and on.

Children contract these diseases parents have forgotten about, because they are not seen in vaccinated communities -

when parents get their medical advice from youBoob - and fake advice based on false information. Vaccinations drop off- and leave populations of children vulnerable to sometimes lethal diseases.

Mumps, Measles, pertussis, typhoid, smallpox - all Kill patients.

Vaccines Do Not cause Autism !


Children - and parents - die from these diseases.

I have watched infants die from preventable pertussis.



It is tragedies preventable.

And - when you antivaxxers watch a child die from a preventable communicable disease. - I recognize the next thing you will do is BLAME TRUMP!!
Disclaimer - I have watched it occur - I pray it never happens again.
get your children vaccinated.


L-17 - youtube is not an education in immunology and infectious disease. Nor are AntiVaxxer web sites.

I have no hope of educating One - but i pray for the children who may be murdered by misinformation and poor parental choices.
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Old 08-28-2020, 02:05 PM   #80
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My, My - with that post about medical science and immunology
One could be a real poster boy for the marxist DPST 'Doublespeak" they use consistently.

Not to mention mind-reading another person's thoughts.

What amazing talents !!!


Why not go give back your childhood immunizations for polio, tetanus, measles, mumps, typhoid, pertussis, and smallpox. With your expertise and talent - it is easy to do.

Be my guest!
Were those vaccines and diseases politicized the way Covid-19 is? That is my point which you seem to miss.
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Old 08-28-2020, 02:26 PM   #81
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Something is causing his rage and frustration. He needs help.
Which one? Or is it both of them?
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Old 08-28-2020, 02:30 PM   #82
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Thanks to all for the support.
Isn't "Guinea Pigs" a bit melodramatic?

At your level of testing (even this accelerated processing) the "lab rat" (Guinea Pig) status has already passed and evaluated.
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Old 08-28-2020, 04:18 PM   #83
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HF writes well and truthfully - unimmunized kids flood into America from south of the border - and bring preventable diseases like pertussis (whooping cough) - measles, mumps. polio.typhoid, and on and on.

Children contract these diseases parents have forgotten about, because they are not seen in vaccinated communities -

when parents get their medical advice from youBoob - and fake advice based on false information. Vaccinations drop off- and leave populations of children vulnerable to sometimes lethal diseases.

Mumps, Measles, pertussis, typhoid, smallpox - all Kill patients.

Vaccines Do Not cause Autism !


Children - and parents - die from these diseases.

I have watched infants die from preventable pertussis.



It is tragedies preventable.

And - when you antivaxxers watch a child die from a preventable communicable disease. - I recognize the next thing you will do is BLAME TRUMP!!
Disclaimer - I have watched it occur - I pray it never happens again.
get your children vaccinated.


L-17 - youtube is not an education in immunology and infectious disease. Nor are AntiVaxxer web sites.

I have no hope of educating One - but i pray for the children who may be murdered by misinformation and poor parental choices.
I never said it was and the CDC website doesn't give out Medical degrees either.
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Old 08-28-2020, 06:26 PM   #84
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yes - you did.

And - u are correct the cdc does not give out medical degrees

It is an organization of medical experts in infectious diseases who work to inform the public of science and medical truths

rather than rabid anti vaxxers who spout totally discredited faked research as justification for personal views from you boob, and have no clue as to the science and work that gos into creating a vaccine.
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Old 08-28-2020, 06:37 PM   #85
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yes - you did.

And - u are correct the cdc does not give out medical degrees

It is an organization of medical experts in infectious diseases who work to inform the public of science and medical truths

rather than rabid anti vaxxers who spout totally discredited faked research as justification for personal views from you boob, and have no clue as to the science and work that gos into creating a vaccine.
Well since you have all this knowledge about vaccines. What is in that syringe that will prevent a human being from contracting a virus?
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Old 08-28-2020, 07:17 PM   #86
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Cute. Now STFU.

I'll let you know when you can open your mouth again.
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You lived - so it wasn't a real success in my opinion.
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Old 08-28-2020, 07:48 PM   #87
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Vaya con Dios, SpeedRacerXXX.
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Old 08-29-2020, 07:14 AM   #88
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Isn't "Guinea Pigs" a bit melodramatic?

At your level of testing (even this accelerated processing) the "lab rat" (Guinea Pig) status has already passed and evaluated.
Please. I meant nothing serious by using the term "guinea pig". I was trying to be funny.
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Old 08-29-2020, 08:33 AM   #89
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Well since you have all this knowledge about vaccines. What is in that syringe that will prevent a human being from contracting a virus?

i recognize l-17 - you are an anti-vaxxer - and i have neither time nor interest in futile attempts to educate you. Buy a book on immunology - i do not believe you are serious about your question, have any interest in an answer , nor will change your opinion regardless.



You do have the freedom - and will under a conservative POTUS - to refuse vaccinations for yourself.

Not so much required vaccinations for disease prevention for children entering public schools.



You will not have that freedom under a racist, marxist DPST K. Harris regime - which will force all people in their Amerika to toe their racist, marxist DPST narrative line.
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Old 08-29-2020, 08:46 AM   #90
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Oeb11 There will be no FREEDOM if Joey an Hoey get elected they have already told the public Guns , masks , Lockdowns tax,s education (1691 project) You do what we tell you
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