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07-31-2020, 09:57 AM
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I'm looking forward to the debates.. simply because I want to see how much is an act/media portrayal... and how much cognitive issue there actually is with Biden. I remember his debate against Paul Ryan.. he obliterated him. In the past he's been a skilled debater.... so it will be interesting to see how he fares and how much "dementia" there truly is.
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Do you really think Biden has the foresight to be playing the complete dementia-ridden fucktard that he's been the last 8 months on purpose? And with the media repeatedly hiding him? You are expecting him to be playing 4D chess when he literally can't remember people who he's talking to. I haven't watched his debate with Paul Ryan, but that was a long time ago and a lot can happen in the span of a decade. Like ol Joe losing his mind.
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In terms of VP.. they're fools if they choose Harris. That's not saying they won't.. but they're fools if they do.
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They've been doing everything wrong with the election up to now. What's a poor VP choice going to add to?
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And no.. Trump didn't say what he said to "goad the liberals". Nobody.. NOT ONE PERSON.. on the liberal side of the fence has even floated the notion of a delayed election. They don't want it, they want Trump gone ASAP. He walked back his statements when he realized the remarks crossed an indelible line in the Republican party... with the "gee, I just owned duh libtards, HYUK".
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It's not about what the liberals said though. It's what they do. Virtually any position Trump takes, the libs will intentionally take the opposite.
Watch his state of the union. At one point, Trump gave a medal of honor to a Tuskegee airman and the Dems just sat there, angry.
Trump says we shouldn't tear down buildings. Libs downplay it.
Trump says Hydroxy is a possible treatment option for covid. The libs repeatedly shoot down the idea because one moron ate fish tank cleaner.
Trump says we should let kids go to school this fall. Dems oppose it.
Trump says we should ban Chinese from entering because of covid. Libs call him racist.
And so on.
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07-31-2020, 11:09 AM
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At least the ChiComs would not have some ignorant fat lady like Stacy Abrams as a serious VP candidate. That right there is proof how fucked up this country is so how much worse could China be?
Plus, I've been to China and rarely saw a cop, and it functioned exactly like our capitalist system, and I went and had a few massages from some sweet, skinny Chinese ladies for about 50-60 bucks, as I remember - and they thought that was generous.
As for commies, our leftists are far more communist and lazy than the hard working Chinese I saw at the various factories.
So if you are happy with the leftists in charge who are continuing to fuck up the big cities I seriously question your intelligence and remember to duck the bullets next time you buy [prohibited subject] in the hood.
Duckworth makes much more sense.
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FF - I agree the Chinese are hard-working and have always been traders and capitalists. Their economy unleashed from Communist ideology has thrived.
They are still dominated by the Chinese Communist Party and its ideology politically.
a bit Schizophrenic - to have a communist dominated capitalistic society - but they do have a totalitarian Rule that brooks no dissent.
Hong Kong is a prime example.
i believe the DPST's would institute that in America - make us a one party socialist ideology state not only politcally - but economically as well - and put Amerika of their making back into the same place the Chinese were at the time of mao's "grat leap forward " - with steel production in every citiizens back yard .. that worked well - Mot!
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07-31-2020, 12:27 PM
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Am I the only person in the world who doesn't know what DPST stands for? Can someone please enlighten me? I can't find it anywhere.
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07-31-2020, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Grace Preston
I'm looking forward to the debates.. simply because I want to see how much is an act/media portrayal... and how much cognitive issue there actually is with Biden. I remember his debate against Paul Ryan.. he obliterated him. In the past he's been a skilled debater.... so it will be interesting to see how he fares and how much "dementia" there truly is.
In terms of VP.. they're fools if they choose Harris. That's not saying they won't.. but they're fools if they do.
And no.. Trump didn't say what he said to "goad the liberals". Nobody.. NOT ONE PERSON.. on the liberal side of the fence has even floated the notion of a delayed election. They don't want it, they want Trump gone ASAP. He walked back his statements when he realized the remarks crossed an indelible line in the Republican party... with the "gee, I just owned duh libtards, HYUK".
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Why do you think there is any cognitive issue with Biden. He can actually speak in sentences and paragraphs unlike Trump. He’s been fine in recent interviews and he’s been perfectly fine in on-line fundraisers.
Just look at any quick interview with him. Here a 20 minute one right here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x19xFyT3lfM
And those if yo who think Karen Bass is not a serious candidate are wrong. She has the big advantage that she says she will not run for President in 2024 if Biden steps down. That’s huge. She’ll work to advance the administration’s agenda, not work to position herself in the future.
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07-31-2020, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TexTushHog
Why do you think there is any cognitive issue with Biden. He can actually speak in sentences and paragraphs unlike Trump. He’s been fine in recent interviews and he’s been perfectly fine in on-line fundraisers.
Just look at any quick interview with him. Here a 20 minute one right here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x19xFyT3lfM
And those if yo who think Karen Bass is not a serious candidate are wrong. She has the big advantage that she says she will not run for President in 2024 if Biden steps down. That’s huge. She’ll work to advance the administration’s agenda, not work to position herself in the future.
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Have you been missing how he has been being portrayed in the right wing media as having dementia and cognitive deficiencies? I'm looking forward to the debates because one way or another-- its going to settle the fact from fiction in that regard. I honestly don't have an opinion either way-- I've seen him speak brilliantly and I've seen him make some serious mistakes in the past 9 months.
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07-31-2020, 09:47 PM
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Why do you think there is any cognitive issue with Biden. He can actually speak in sentences and paragraphs unlike Trump. He’s been fine in recent interviews and he’s been perfectly fine in on-line fundraisers.
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No, it's because the media does overtime work on selectively editing out his massive fucking blunders so you won't get to see them. Look at how fast the media covered up "if you don't vote for me, you aint black" crap.
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07-31-2020, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Grace Preston
Have you been missing how he has been being portrayed in the right wing media as having dementia and cognitive deficiencies? I'm looking forward to the debates because one way or another-- its going to settle the fact from fiction in that regard. I honestly don't have an opinion either way-- I've seen him speak brilliantly and I've seen him make some serious mistakes in the past 9 months.
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Dude, you are not fooling anyone. You always try to play both sides of the fence, yet literally every single attack you made on Trump is effectively statements about how he hurt your feelings or how you don't like the way he sounds. And now you're running damage control on Biden, despite him being LITERALLY ON CAMERA, fucking up.
"If you don't vote for me, you ain't black"
"We hold these truths to be self-evident by the.. you know, you know, the thing!
"Poor kids are just as smart as white kids!"
"I had black kids crawling up my legs and that's how I learned about cockroaches!" (okay, this was paraphrased but that's the gist)
He gets asked a serious question.. "you're dog faced lying pony soldier"
Seriously, if you're giving him the benefit of the doubt based on the countless fuck ups and are calling them right wing attacks, but then you cry about how Trump says something in a way you don't like, you don't get to say "I don't have an opinion either way."
Whenever someone pretends to be non-partisan, but only echoes a partisan talking points for one side, then you know they're just trying to cover their ass.
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07-31-2020, 09:56 PM
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Dude trump is an idiot! If it wasnt for his daddys money he'd be in some trailer park like his 40-50 yr old uneducated white male voter base! We have NEVER as a country had some TV reality person in the white house as the chief in charge! Hes running this country in the ground like he has his businesses but no bankruptcy to bail him out. Hes in bed w/Russia paying back the money he owes them with political favors. But his supporters cant see that because they like his bigot posture!
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07-31-2020, 10:03 PM
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Dude trump is an idiot! If it wasnt for his daddys money he'd be in some trailer park like his 40-50 yr old uneducated white male voter base! We have NEVER as a country had some TV reality person in the white house as the chief in charge! Hes running this country in the ground like he has his businesses but no bankruptcy to bail him out. Hes in bed w/Russia paying back the money he owes them with political favors. But his supporters cant see that because they like his bigot posture!
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you forgot the grabbing of the pussies.
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07-31-2020, 11:11 PM
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the debates will certainly be interesting.. I think Biden will do okay if he focuses and tries to stay relaxed.. and is well-rehearsed. Trump runs the risk of over-attacking, and turning off viewers to himself.
even as I say that, I understand the 2015-16 debates ushered him into the White House. he systematically mowed down 19 Republicans, coined names for each of them that stuck negatively.. then proceeded to do the same against Hilary.
but in 2020, I don't know if the Country is amenable to that style. maybe, maybe not.
if I'm Biden, and my 8-point lead is holding come debate time, I might find an excuse to opt out. it's like Mohammed Ali being up, say, 10 rounds to 4, going into the 15th and final round. just stay on the ropes, rope-a-dope.. lose round 15, so what? just don't get knocked out!
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07-31-2020, 11:33 PM
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Just looking at the debate schedule, it seems like it's going to be really important to make a strong first impression at the first debate. The last debate is only about 11 days before election day. With more and more early voting, not to mention mail in ballots, a lot of votes may have already been cast by then or at least minds are made up.
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08-01-2020, 01:09 AM
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meh
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the debates will certainly be interesting.. I think Biden will do okay if he focuses and tries to stay relaxed.. and is well-rehearsed. Trump runs the risk of over-attacking, and turning off viewers to himself.
even as I say that, I understand the 2015-16 debates ushered him into the White House. he systematically mowed down 19 Republicans, coined names for each of them that stuck negatively.. then proceeded to do the same against Hilary.
but in 2020, I don't know if the Country is amenable to that style. maybe, maybe not.
if I'm Biden, and my 8-point lead is holding come debate time, I might find an excuse to opt out. it's like Mohammed Ali being up, say, 10 rounds to 4, going into the 15th and final round. just stay on the ropes, rope-a-dope.. lose round 15, so what? just don't get knocked out!
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Biden will have the mods on his side, for sure. They'll tailor-make those debate questions to make Trump look as bad as possible (largely with already-debunked talking points), ignore his accomplishments and focus on flustering him.
Make no mistake, this isn't going to be just Trump VS Biden. It's going to be Trump VS Biden and the entire media establishment. Really, Biden doesn't even have to be there.
The problem is, eventually Trump will talk about his accomplishments and neither Biden or the media have a response to that. And before anyone says "Oh, that's just a right wing talking point!" BULLSHIT. Trump has accomplished encyclopedias worth of stuff more than Biden and Obama can even think about. As long as Trump doesn't let the mods run the show, he can keep bringing that up. The moment Trump challenges him "Biden, you've been in office for 50 years, what have you accomplished?" Biden will break down.
Trump needs to go in prepared, though. He's not going to streamroll him if he doesn't bring himself to be measured and prepped. I hope he does do that. Just like how he curbstomped Hillary the second and third debates, if he can bring that focus, Biden can't do a damn thing.
As for the country being amenable, look at the party he's up against. Most of them have their dick in their hands and can't even say "We shouldn't burn down buildings" because it's what Trump would say.
Seriously, I can't imagine anyone objectively picking Biden over Trump for any reason other than "Trump hurt my feelings and Biden isn't Trump so I guess I'll vote for him." Sure, Biden hasn't done shit in office, sure he's on literal camera talking about how he blackmailed a foreign president, sure he literally sniffs people, sure he has made routinely racist ass remarks... but he isn't orange so I'll vote for him!
Anyone that votes for Biden is playing absolute partisanship.
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08-01-2020, 03:34 AM
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If Biden had any smarts, he would have chosen Tulsi Gabbard as his running mate,
Woman
Very, very anti-war position
Veteran
Pretty moderate positions across a variety of issues
and, yeah.. attractive.
Biden choosing a black running mate doesn't change the fact that he said some of the most insanely fucking racist things during his campaign and during his career. And the fact that he clearly as dementia.
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100 percent this. Great post. As a Libertarian-leaning lefty, I like Tulsi a lot. In context to the hobby, I think her laissez-faire stance toward social issues can help us. She has spoken favorably of legalization.
In fairness though, she did support SESTA.
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08-01-2020, 10:40 AM
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Biden will have the mods on his side, for sure. They'll tailor-make those debate questions to make Trump look as bad as possible (largely with already-debunked talking points), ignore his accomplishments and focus on flustering him..
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You forgot to add that Biden will have the questions that are designed for him ahead of time and prepped the answers. If I was a hacker, I would love to be able to disable the small ear piece that Joe will have being fed information through.
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08-01-2020, 11:00 AM
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