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[Unique_Carpenter]

Ok, my 3 cents:
1 penny, no vaccines avail yet.
2 penny, my med friends are saying Easter at the earliest.
3 penny, medicos and nursing homes will take first three months of production.

Conclusion:
If they create one that actually works:
Early summer 2021 before availability to general public.

Disclaimers:
No ones even touched the issue yet of antibodies flushing out, and there's documented cases of folks getting a secondary hit.
And,
There's at least 5 variations out. Will a vaccine cover all? Or just one or two?

[rexdutchman]

Conclusion , Most vaccines only work 9/10% ( other then polo) country gonna fall apart faster then a 65 Chev,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,
Lock and load

[oeb11]

UC - your concerns are valid!

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

Ok, my 3 cents:
1 penny, no vaccines avail yet.
2 penny, my med friends are saying Easter at the earliest.
3 penny, medicos and nursing homes will take first three months of production.

Conclusion:
If they create one that actually works:
Early summer 2021 before availability to general public.

Disclaimers:
No ones even touched the issue yet of antibodies flushing out, and there's documented cases of folks getting a secondary hit.
And,
There's at least 5 variations out. Will a vaccine cover all? Or just one or two?

Hey, ask your Med Friends what's in the Vaccine see if they can answer that one.

[Unique_Carpenter]

The Oxford vaccine is accepting volunteers for phase 2 at the Kansas University hospital in Kansas City, KS. So whichever version Oxford targeted.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

The Oxford vaccine is accepting volunteers for phase 2 at the Kansas University hospital in Kansas City, KS. So whichever version Oxford targeted.

Oh yeah, that's promising.

[Ripmany]

Covid-19 fake the doctor are just making people sick who come in for other problems.

[Levianon17]

We are being mislead about Covid-19. A group of Doctors went to Washington campaigning against the misinformation about Covid-19. Notice the Doctors in the video aren't wearing masks. There is no need for masks, Lock down or any of these stupid restrictions. Furthermore there isn't any need for a Vaccine the Doctor in the video has treated over three hundred patients with Covid-19 with great success administering a combination of Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc and Azithromycin. Apparently there is a promising treatment that should be considered as an approved treatment for Covid-19 for those who are very sick and need hospitalization.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXE2cU0FdBQ&t=201s

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

We are being mislead about Covid-19. A group of Doctors went to Washington campaigning against the misinformation about Covid-19. Notice the Doctors in the video aren't wearing masks. There is no need for masks, Lock down or any of these stupid restrictions. Furthermore there isn't any need for a Vaccine the Doctor in the video has treated over three hundred patients with Covid-19 with great success administering a combination of Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc and Azithromycin. Apparently there is a promising treatment that should be considered as an approved treatment for Covid-19 for those who are very sick and need hospitalization.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXE2cU0FdBQ&t=201s

i'm surprised this video is still online on UBoob. fagbook pulled it.



https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/...ss-conference/


the full video.



Facebook has removed a video posted by Breitbart News earlier today, which was the top-performing Facebook post in the world Monday afternoon, of a press conference in D.C. held by the group America’s Frontline Doctors and organized and sponsored by the Tea Party Patriots. The press conference featured Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) and frontline doctors sharing their views and opinions on coronavirus and the medical response to the pandemic. YouTube (which is owned by Google) and Twitter subsequently removed footage of the press conference as well.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

i'm surprised this video is still online on UBoob. fagbook pulled it.



https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/...ss-conference/


the full video.



Facebook has removed a video posted by Breitbart News earlier today, which was the top-performing Facebook post in the world Monday afternoon, of a press conference in D.C. held by the group America’s Frontline Doctors and organized and sponsored by the Tea Party Patriots. The press conference featured Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) and frontline doctors sharing their views and opinions on coronavirus and the medical response to the pandemic. YouTube (which is owned by Google) and Twitter subsequently removed footage of the press conference as well.

They pulled it because it probably scares the shit out the Pharmaceutical Industry. Hydroxy has been around for a long time it's rather inexpensive and readily available. If this Doctor has documented her success with it, which I am sure she has then it throws a huge wrench in the quick fix vaccine narrative the shysters are toting.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

They pulled it because it probably scares the shit out the Pharmaceutical Industry. Hydroxy has been around for a long time it's rather inexpensive and readily available. If this Doctor has documented her success with it, which I am sure she has then it throws a huge wrench in the quick fix vaccine narrative the shysters are toting.

right on que .. here come Billy the Savior and the NYT ..



Bill Gates: Spread of 'outrageous' coronavirus video shows flaw in social media platforms

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bill-...124710983.html


those Evil Trumps!!!!

Misleading Virus Video, Pushed by the Trumps, Spreads Online

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/t...deo-trump.html



if it turned out air cures the virus they'd tell you not to breathe ..

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Misleading Virus Video, Pushed by the Trumps, Spreads Online

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/t...deo-trump.html

if it turned out air cures the virus they'd tell you not to breathe ..

Misleading Virus Video, Pushed by the Trumps, Spreads Online

Social media companies took down the video within hours. But by then, it had already been viewed tens of millions of times.

A woman who identified herself as Dr. Stella Immanuel speaking during a video shared by “America’s Frontline Doctors.”

By Sheera Frenkel and Davey Alba
July 28, 2020

In a video posted Monday online, a group of people calling themselves “America’s Frontline Doctors” and wearing white medical coats spoke against the backdrop of the Supreme Court in Washington, sharing misleading claims about the virus, including that hydroxychloroquine was an effective coronavirus treatment and that masks did not slow the spread of the virus.

The video did not appear to be anything special. But within six hours, President Trump and his son Donald Trump Jr. had tweeted versions of it, and the right-wing news site Breitbart had shared it. It went viral, shared largely through Facebook groups dedicated to anti-vaccination movements and conspiracy theories such as QAnon, racking up tens of millions of views. Multiple versions of the video were uploaded to YouTube, and links were shared through Twitter.

Facebook, YouTube and Twitter worked feverishly to remove it, but by the time they had, the video had already become the latest example of misinformation about the virus that has spread widely.

That was because the video had been designed specifically to appeal to internet conspiracists and conservatives eager to see the economy reopen, with a setting and characters to lend authenticity. It showed that even as social media companies have sped up response time to remove dangerous virus misinformation within hours of its posting, people have continued to find new ways around the platforms’ safeguards.

“Misinformation about a deadly virus has become political fodder, which was then spread by many individuals who are trusted by their constituencies,” said Lisa Kaplan, founder of Alethea Group, a start-up that helps fight disinformation. “If just one person listened to anyone spreading these falsehoods and they subsequently took an action that caused others to catch, spread or even die from the virus — that is one person too many.”

One of the speakers in the video, who identified herself as Dr. Stella Immanuel, said, “You don’t need masks” to prevent spread of the coronavirus. She also claimed to be treating hundreds of patients infected with coronavirus with hydroxychloroquine, and asserted that it was an effective treatment. The claims have been repeatedly disputed by the medical establishment.

President Trump repeatedly promoted hydroxychloroquine, a malaria drug, in the early months of the crisis. In June, he said he was taking it himself. But that same month, the Food and Drug Administration revoked emergency authorization for the drug for Covid-19 patients and said it was “unlikely to be effective” and carried potential risks. The National Institutes of Health halted clinical trials of the drug.

In addition, studies have repeatedly shown that masks are effective in curbing the spread of the coronavirus.

The trajectory of Monday’s video mirrored that of “Plandemic,” a 26-minute slickly produced narration that spread widely in May and falsely claimed that a shadowy cabal of elites was using the virus and a potential vaccine to profit and gain power. In just over a week, “Plandemic” was viewed more than eight million times on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram before it was taken down.

But the video posted Monday had more views than “Plandemic” within hours of being posted online, even though it was removed much faster. At least one version of the video, viewed by The Times on Facebook, was watched over 16 million times.

Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter deleted several versions of the video on Monday night. All three companies said the video violated their policies on sharing misinformation related to the coronavirus.

On Tuesday morning, Twitter also took action against Donald Trump Jr. after he shared a link to the video. A spokesman for Twitter said the company had ordered Mr. Trump to delete the misleading tweet and said it would “limit some account functionality for 12 hours.” Twitter took a similar action against Kelli Ward, the Arizona Republican Party chairwoman, who also tweeted the video.

No action was taken against the president, who retweeted multiple clips of the same video to his 84.2 million followers Monday night. The original posts have since been removed.

When asked about the video on Tuesday, Mr. Trump continued to defend the doctors involved and the treatments they are backing.

“For some reason the internet wanted to take them down and took them off,” the president said. “I think they are very respected doctors. There was a woman who was spectacular in her statements about it, that she’s had tremendous success with it and they took her voice off. I don’t know why they took her off. Maybe they had a good reason, maybe they didn’t.”

Facebook and YouTube did not answer questions about multiple versions of the video that remained online on Tuesday afternoon. Twitter said it was “continuing to take action on new and existing tweets with the video.”

The members of the group behind Monday’s video say they are physicians treating patients infected with the coronavirus. But it was unclear where many of them practice medicine or how many patients they had actually seen. As early as May, anti-Obamacare conservative activists called the Tea Party Patriots Action reportedly worked with some of them to advocate loosening states’ restrictions on elective surgeries and nonemergency care. On July 15, the group registered a website called “America’s Frontline Doctors,” domain registration records show.

One of the first copies of the video that appeared on Monday was posted to the Tea Party Patriots’ YouTube channel, alongside other videos featuring the members of “America’s Frontline Doctors.”

The doctors have also been promoted by conservatives like Brent Bozell, founder of the Media Research Center, a nonprofit media organization.


© 2020 The New York Times Company

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

Misleading Virus Video, Pushed by the Trumps, Spreads Online

Social media companies took down the video within hours. But by then, it had already been viewed tens of millions of times.

A woman who identified herself as Dr. Stella Immanuel speaking during a video shared by “America’s Frontline Doctors.”

By Sheera Frenkel and Davey Alba
July 28, 2020

In a video posted Monday online, a group of people calling themselves “America’s Frontline Doctors” and wearing white medical coats spoke against the backdrop of the Supreme Court in Washington, sharing misleading claims about the virus, including that hydroxychloroquine was an effective coronavirus treatment and that masks did not slow the spread of the virus.

The video did not appear to be anything special. But within six hours, President Trump and his son Donald Trump Jr. had tweeted versions of it, and the right-wing news site Breitbart had shared it. It went viral, shared largely through Facebook groups dedicated to anti-vaccination movements and conspiracy theories such as QAnon, racking up tens of millions of views. Multiple versions of the video were uploaded to YouTube, and links were shared through Twitter.

Facebook, YouTube and Twitter worked feverishly to remove it, but by the time they had, the video had already become the latest example of misinformation about the virus that has spread widely.

That was because the video had been designed specifically to appeal to internet conspiracists and conservatives eager to see the economy reopen, with a setting and characters to lend authenticity. It showed that even as social media companies have sped up response time to remove dangerous virus misinformation within hours of its posting, people have continued to find new ways around the platforms’ safeguards.

“Misinformation about a deadly virus has become political fodder, which was then spread by many individuals who are trusted by their constituencies,” said Lisa Kaplan, founder of Alethea Group, a start-up that helps fight disinformation. “If just one person listened to anyone spreading these falsehoods and they subsequently took an action that caused others to catch, spread or even die from the virus — that is one person too many.”

One of the speakers in the video, who identified herself as Dr. Stella Immanuel, said, “You don’t need masks” to prevent spread of the coronavirus. She also claimed to be treating hundreds of patients infected with coronavirus with hydroxychloroquine, and asserted that it was an effective treatment. The claims have been repeatedly disputed by the medical establishment.

President Trump repeatedly promoted hydroxychloroquine, a malaria drug, in the early months of the crisis. In June, he said he was taking it himself. But that same month, the Food and Drug Administration revoked emergency authorization for the drug for Covid-19 patients and said it was “unlikely to be effective” and carried potential risks. The National Institutes of Health halted clinical trials of the drug.

In addition, studies have repeatedly shown that masks are effective in curbing the spread of the coronavirus.

The trajectory of Monday’s video mirrored that of “Plandemic,” a 26-minute slickly produced narration that spread widely in May and falsely claimed that a shadowy cabal of elites was using the virus and a potential vaccine to profit and gain power. In just over a week, “Plandemic” was viewed more than eight million times on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram before it was taken down.

But the video posted Monday had more views than “Plandemic” within hours of being posted online, even though it was removed much faster. At least one version of the video, viewed by The Times on Facebook, was watched over 16 million times.

Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter deleted several versions of the video on Monday night. All three companies said the video violated their policies on sharing misinformation related to the coronavirus.

On Tuesday morning, Twitter also took action against Donald Trump Jr. after he shared a link to the video. A spokesman for Twitter said the company had ordered Mr. Trump to delete the misleading tweet and said it would “limit some account functionality for 12 hours.” Twitter took a similar action against Kelli Ward, the Arizona Republican Party chairwoman, who also tweeted the video.

No action was taken against the president, who retweeted multiple clips of the same video to his 84.2 million followers Monday night. The original posts have since been removed.

When asked about the video on Tuesday, Mr. Trump continued to defend the doctors involved and the treatments they are backing.

“For some reason the internet wanted to take them down and took them off,” the president said. “I think they are very respected doctors. There was a woman who was spectacular in her statements about it, that she’s had tremendous success with it and they took her voice off. I don’t know why they took her off. Maybe they had a good reason, maybe they didn’t.”

Facebook and YouTube did not answer questions about multiple versions of the video that remained online on Tuesday afternoon. Twitter said it was “continuing to take action on new and existing tweets with the video.”

The members of the group behind Monday’s video say they are physicians treating patients infected with the coronavirus. But it was unclear where many of them practice medicine or how many patients they had actually seen. As early as May, anti-Obamacare conservative activists called the Tea Party Patriots Action reportedly worked with some of them to advocate loosening states’ restrictions on elective surgeries and nonemergency care. On July 15, the group registered a website called “America’s Frontline Doctors,” domain registration records show.

One of the first copies of the video that appeared on Monday was posted to the Tea Party Patriots’ YouTube channel, alongside other videos featuring the members of “America’s Frontline Doctors.”

The doctors have also been promoted by conservatives like Brent Bozell, founder of the Media Research Center, a nonprofit media organization.


© 2020 The New York Times Company

These Doctors really have nothing to lose by putting out this video. The Vaccine Industry has everything to lose. They are set out to make millions on a vaccine that is even toted as being mandatory to scare the shit out of people. So no treatment that shows promise or even flat out success will ever be accepted. So of course this video will have some negativity associated with it. I tend to have more faith in the information these Doctors are putting out than I would with Fauci, Bill Gates the CDC and WHO. With them it's all about scare tactics, compliance and control.

[oeb11]

i would like to see verification of the 'physicians' of this group - licenses and practices.

Propaganda happens on both sides - Let's see 'America's Frontline Doctors' prove their authenticity.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by oeb11

i would like to see verification of the 'physicians' of this group - licenses and practices.

Propaganda happens on both sides - Let's see 'America's Frontline Doctors' prove their authenticity.

Sure it does. Like I said earlier, if the Nigerian Doctor has had actual success in treating 300 plus patients with Hydroxychloroquine and if those cases are truly documented then she and the other Doctors are a force to be reckoned with. I haven't been too impressed with Fauci and the other screw offs that keep showing up in the Main Stream Media.