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Old 07-22-2020, 02:56 PM   #1
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Default Some good news?

Well, it appears that all of the Covid-19 measures being taken in the Southern Hemisphere are halting the flu in its tracks.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-1...re-11595440682

All of the masks, shutdowns, and social distancing may be only partially effective against CV-19, but it appears to crush the regular seasonal flu.

Maybe the Northern Hemisphere will catch a break this winter.
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Old 07-22-2020, 03:00 PM   #2
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If anyone catches the regular Flu they'll just call it Covid-19. Nobody gets regular sick right now. Covid-19 is way too profitable.
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Old 07-22-2020, 03:05 PM   #3
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If anyone catches the regular Flu they'll just call it Covid-19. Nobody gets regular sick right now. Covid-19 is way too profitable.
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Old 07-22-2020, 03:09 PM   #4
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If anyone catches the regular Flu they'll just call it Covid-19. Nobody gets regular sick right now. Covid-19 is way too profitable.
Spreading more misinformation?

First, Covid gets no special reimbursement from government or private insurance. Doctors and hospitals get paid the same as for flu or any other respiratory treatment.

Second, the article is not about the US, but the Southern Hemisphere, particularly South America (e.g., Chile), Australia and NZ. Most of those countries have single payer government healthcare and there is no reason or incentive to classify something else as CV.

Any more conspiracy theories you want to spread?
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Did Biden go to Nam? Was Obama in the military?
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Old 07-22-2020, 03:17 PM   #6
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First, Covid gets no special reimbursement from government or private insurance. Doctors and hospitals get paid the same as for flu or any other respiratory treatment.
YOU ARE WRONG!

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/...providers.html

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HHS Begins Distribution of Payments to Hospitals with High COVID-19 Admissions, Rural Providers
Today, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) is processing payments from the Provider Relief Fund to hospitals with large numbers of COVID-19 inpatient admissions through April 10, 2020, and to rural providers in support of the national response to COVID-19.

"These new payments are being distributed to healthcare providers who have been hardest hit by the virus: $12 billion to facilities admitting large numbers of COVID-19 patients and $10 billion to providers in rural areas, who are already working on narrow margins," said HHS Secretary Alex Azar. "HHS has put these funds out as quickly as possible, after gathering data to ensure that they are going to the providers who need them the most. With another $75 billion recently appropriated by Congress, the Trump Administration will continue doing everything we can to support America's heroic healthcare providers on the frontlines of this war on the virus."

COVID-19 High-Impact Distribution:

Recognizing the particular impact the COVID-19 pandemic has had on hospitals in certain parts of the nation, and that inpatient admissions are a primary driver of costs to hospitals related to COVID-19, HHS is distributing $12 billion to 395 hospitals who provided inpatient care for 100 or more COVID-19 patients through April 10, 2020, $2 billion of which will be distributed to these hospitals based on their Medicare and Medicaid disproportionate share and uncompensated care payments.

These 395 hospitals accounted for 71 percent of COVID-19 inpatient admissions reported to HHS from nearly 6,000 hospitals around the country. The distribution uses a simple formula to determine what each hospital receives: hospitals are paid a fixed amount per COVID-19 inpatient admission, with an additional amount taking into account their Medicare and Medicaid disproportionate share and uncompensated care payments.

These hospitals will begin receiving funds via direct deposit in the coming days.
A local TV station (Fact Check) determined that hospitals were getting a $50,000 pop per COVID19 patient who was admitted and treated until release ... from cure or death.
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Old 07-22-2020, 03:28 PM   #7
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Spreading more misinformation?

First, Covid gets no special reimbursement from government or private insurance. Doctors and hospitals get paid the same as for flu or any other respiratory treatment.

Second, the article is not about the US, but the Southern Hemisphere, particularly South America (e.g., Chile), Australia and NZ. Most of those countries have single payer government healthcare and there is no reason or incentive to classify something else as CV.

Any more conspiracy theories you want to spread?
This video clip tells me they do, and if you don't think there is some fraud associated with it then you're as dumb as a second coat of paint.


https://youtu.be/ga2FzSsOcpw
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Old 07-22-2020, 03:45 PM   #8
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This video clip tells me they do, and if you don't think there is some fraud associated with it then you're as dumb as a second coat of paint.

https://youtu.be/ga2FzSsOcpw
And neither you nor Lexus addressed my second point - that the drop-off in flu cases are in foreign countries with single payer government healthcare - NOT in the USA. So, they have no incentive to miscategorize.

And OUR summer is THEIR winter flu season. They should be spiking, but aren't.

To put it another way, in the US, there is a negligible number of flu cases after between the end of February/early March and October. That is the period we are in right now.

So, the massive fraud you are worried about - and the miscounting as Covid cases - hasn't happened yet. If it does happen it will be between October and late February. That's when you get about 95% of flu cases.

Right now, the number of flu cases to be miscategorized as CV-19 is negligible. It's not even a rounding error in the nearly 4M Covid cases or the 140K deaths.

See graph here -

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season.htm

Flu cases aren't even shown after March.

Any more misinformation you want to spread?
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Old 07-22-2020, 04:17 PM   #9
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Did Biden go to Nam? Was Obama in the military?

It would seem that Biden had himself 5 deferments due to Asthma.... it would seem that he and Cheney have some common ground, eh?
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Old 07-22-2020, 04:32 PM   #10
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And neither you nor Lexus addressed my second point

How about you admit that you were wrong on the first point and then they might address the second point.


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Any more misinformation you want to spread?

You mean like the misinformation you tried to spread with point 1?
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Old 07-22-2020, 04:42 PM   #11
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And neither you nor Lexus addressed my second point - that the drop-off in flu cases are in foreign countries with single payer government healthcare - NOT in the USA. So, they have no incentive to miscategorize.

And OUR summer is THEIR winter flu season. They should be spiking, but aren't.

To put it another way, in the US, there is a negligible number of flu cases after between the end of February/early March and October. That is the period we are in right now.

So, the massive fraud you are worried about - and the miscounting as Covid cases - hasn't happened yet. If it does happen it will be between October and late February. That's when you get about 95% of flu cases.

Right now, the number of flu cases to be miscategorized as CV-19 is negligible. It's not even a rounding error in the nearly 4M Covid cases or the 140K deaths.

See graph here -

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season.htm

Flu cases aren't even shown after March.

Any more misinformation you want to spread?

you didn't comment on being wrong. so what else is new?


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It would seem that Biden had himself 5 deferments due to Asthma.... it would seem that he and Cheney have some common ground, eh?



way too much gets made about Trump taking deferments. just about anyone who could take a deferment did. including Bushy II, Slick Willie (ROTC scam), Joey Corn Poop and TWK Sr. yes. TWK Sr. just think .. had it not been for that deferment there might not be TWK!



how fortunate for ECCIE that didn't happen!
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Old 07-22-2020, 06:17 PM   #12
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And neither you nor Lexus addressed my second point - that the drop-off in flu cases are in foreign countries with single payer government healthcare - NOT in the USA. So, they have no incentive to miscategorize.

And OUR summer is THEIR winter flu season. They should be spiking, but aren't.


To put it another way, in the US, there is a negligible number of flu cases after between the end of February/early March and October. That is the period we are in right now.

So, the massive fraud you are worried about - and the miscounting as Covid cases - hasn't happened yet. If it does happen it will be between October and late February. That's when you get about 95% of flu cases.

Right now, the number of flu cases to be miscategorized as CV-19 is negligible. It's not even a rounding error in the nearly 4M Covid cases or the 140K deaths.

See graph here -

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season.htm

Flu cases aren't even shown after March.

Any more misinformation you want to spread?
You're the one spreading misinformation. What country is in the Winter Flu Season?
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Old 07-22-2020, 06:41 PM   #13
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Old 07-22-2020, 07:32 PM   #14
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It would seem that Biden had himself 5 deferments due to Asthma.... it would seem that he and Cheney have some common ground, eh?
I forgot how Clinton and Bush 43 weaseled out of the military. Several of our Presidents didn’t serve. FDR? I don’t think that’s a qualification. There’s was a conversation between JFK and Sinatra...


Sinatra: How did you become a war hero?

JFK: I got my boat sunk

Allegedly true. PT 109
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Bush 2 technically didn't defer... he joined the Air National Guard-- which essentially kept him the hell out of Vietnam.



Clinton deferred twice... once due to being a Rhodes Scholar studying at Oxford.. then the second one when he verbally committed to ROTC-- then 2 months later "changed his mind" Then, when he finally lost his ability to avoid draft status... he lucked into a high lottery number and was never called.



Honestly-- I don't give a damn about Trump getting draft deferments. Its not like he's the first kid with money to dodge service on some borderline bullshit.
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