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Wile E Coyote · 07-09-2020, 01:54 PM

You know what we need is for those snotty nosed kids that prostest is to bring back the draft

to teach them about loving our country and why we are free!

1sdavis · 07-09-2020, 05:07 PM

An obligation mandated by the government will teach them why we are free? Just saying......

dallasfan · 07-09-2020, 06:23 PM

Agree if you are on the highway protesting, you are fair game.

They should let the driver go and charge the survivor with jaywalking.

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Originally Posted by gnadfly

I believe this incident was in Seattle.

It should be a federal crime to shut down freeways for a riot. This is not a protest, it's a case of domestic terrorism.

DFWClubgoer · 07-09-2020, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 1sdavis

An obligation mandated by the government will teach them why we are free? Just saying......

I think the idea here is to teach them that ;

“Freedom”, is not cost free! Million have sacrificed so that you and I can be free.

1sdavis · 07-10-2020, 09:54 AM

Freedom in America has always been about the rights of those with the minority view. It seems like many are saying "I am a real American" and they are not. You can disagree with them, but trying to get them to conform through mandatory government action seems about as unAmerican as anything I can think of. Conformity is required in China, Saudi Arabia, etc., not America.

texassapper · 07-10-2020, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 1sdavis

Freedom in America has always been about the rights of those with the minority view. It seems like many are saying "I am a real American" and they are not. You can disagree with them, but trying to get them to conform through mandatory government action seems about as unAmerican as anything I can think of. Conformity is required in China, Saudi Arabia, etc., not America.

Well I guess we were unAmerican during the Civil War, the Great War and WW2, as well as Korea, and Vietnam.

Bitch about the draft... but voting rights have never been universal before. Allowing those who directly benefit from payments getting to vote seems wrong to me. I'll just vote myself more money isn't a solution. We used to all know that. We don't nowadays.

I think franchise should be earned. In a public and UNALTERABLE process. You spend 10 years in military service and you earn the franchise and citizenship. Everyone else is just a resident with the same legal rights (except voting) as a citizen. The sole distinction is voting. No one is forced to serve... you can choose to while away those 10 years smoking dope and f*cking goats for all I care. You can be president and not be a citizen... as long as enough citizens vote for you.No birthright citizenship... you have to earn your franchise. It would essentially eliminate the people with no skin in the game from the decision making process.

Wile E Coyote · 07-10-2020, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 1sdavis

Freedom in America has always been about the rights of those with the minority view. It seems like many are saying "I am a real American" and they are not. You can disagree with them, but trying to get them to conform through mandatory government action seems about as unAmerican as anything I can think of. Conformity is required in China, Saudi Arabia, etc., not America.

Isn't that what BLM is trying to do, trying to mandate the governement to also mandate and make new rules to satisfy them? And if they do not, more protests, vandalism and rioting shall ensue. So essentially, give me more because I deserve it and if you do not, I will take it. If you think that is freedom in America, then I suggest you go live in N Korea or China and you can enjoy liberal communism, be told what to do, work and give the majority of your money to the government.

1sdavis · 07-10-2020, 02:19 PM

You make me laugh. Thank you.

oeb11 · 07-10-2020, 02:27 PM

OnlyBLM demands include a segregated state of their own, billions in reparations, millions of whitey dead, and a Marxist revolution in america. OBLM leaders are trained marxist revolutionaries.

They will never be satisfied in a representative democracy.

Liberaals can 'poo-poo" - when the radicals get control after 25th amendmnet biden Out - you may well regret your support of marxists like AOC and cabal.

1sdavis · 07-10-2020, 03:31 PM

“Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority. The more uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely what is right and what is wrong. All human progress, even in morals, has been the work of men who have doubted the current moral values, not of men who have whooped them up and tried to enforce them. The truly civilized man is always skeptical and tolerant, in this field as in all others. His culture is based on "I am not too sure.”
― H.L. Mencken

texassapper · 07-10-2020, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 1sdavis

“Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority. The more uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely what is right and what is wrong. All human progress, even in morals, has been the work of men who have doubted the current moral values, not of men who have whooped them up and tried to enforce them. The truly civilized man is always skeptical and tolerant, in this field as in all others. His culture is based on "I am not too sure.”
― H.L. Mencken

Would that more Leftists read a little Mencken before he gets canceled into the cornfield.

1sdavis · 07-10-2020, 04:36 PM

You make no sense.

"Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one." Voltaire expressing the same sentiment. This is not that hard.

1sdavis · 07-10-2020, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by texassapper

Well I guess we were unAmerican during the Civil War, the Great War and WW2, as well as Korea, and Vietnam.

Bitch about the draft... but voting rights have never been universal before. Allowing those who directly benefit from payments getting to vote seems wrong to me. I'll just vote myself more money isn't a solution. We used to all know that. We don't nowadays.

I think franchise should be earned. In a public and UNALTERABLE process. You spend 10 years in military service and you earn the franchise and citizenship. Everyone else is just a resident with the same legal rights (except voting) as a citizen. The sole distinction is voting. No one is forced to serve... you can choose to while away those 10 years smoking dope and f*cking goats for all I care. You can be president and not be a citizen... as long as enough citizens vote for you.No birthright citizenship... you have to earn your franchise. It would essentially eliminate the people with no skin in the game from the decision making process.

A draft during a war and a draft intended to change the way people think are the same? Come on, man. You can do better than that.

texassapper · 07-10-2020, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 1sdavis

A draft during a war and a draft intended to change the way people think are the same? Come on, man. You can do better than that.

Learn to read. I did not advocate a draft.

ValenTX · 07-11-2020, 06:01 PM

One of the BLM founders stated during a televised interview she was a trained marxist. Their goal is to bring about a marxist/socialist country by whatever means necessary, disruption, protests, counter culture, etc all fair game.

Follow the money trail. Go blacklivesmatter.com, click donate, then read the fine print. Donations are processed by actblue. Go to their website and read the fine print. They are a fundraising site to raise money for democratic candidates. Follow next which candidates received the most money. All the top ones have the same things in common. They are liberal white politicians who desire to bring the country to socialism, eliminate the republican party so their socialist party will have all the power. If you need to see where that leads check out Venezuela, Cuba, China, Russia, etc.