Exclusive: Obama says in private call that 'rule of law is at risk' in Michael Flynn case

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Obama Alumni Association

so much for obama's shadow govt. i believe they imploded.

[oeb11]

I wish you were correct - DF - they are still out there - hunkered down - hoping for a change in Nov 2020.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Obammy sure has been a chatter-box about charges being dropped against LTG Michael Flynn.

FLASHBACK: Barack Obama Pardoned a Former General Who Lied to the FBI

...Obama said. “And the fact that there is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free. That’s the kind of stuff where you begin to get worried that basic — not just institutional norms — but our basic understanding of rule of law is at risk. And when you start moving in those directions, it can accelerate pretty quickly as we’ve seen in other places.”

But, in 2017, just days before leaving office, Barack Obama pardoned retired Marine Corps general James E. Cartwright, who pleaded guilty to charges of lying to the FBI.

Cartwright served as vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Obama, and was “a key member of Mr. Obama’s national security team in his first term and earned a reputation as the president’s favorite general,” according to the New York Times. Cartwright had leaked classified information regarding Iran’s nuclear program to the media and lied to FBI officials investigating those leaks. He faced up to two years in prison before Obama pardoned him....

Hmmm, I wonder what many things OBammy is really worried about here...

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by oeb11

I wish you were correct - DF - they are still out there - hunkered down - hoping for a change in Nov 2020.

yeah... most of them are gone. those leftovers have to be dealt with eventually.

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Obammy sure has been a chatter-box about charges being dropped against LTG Michael Flynn.

FLASHBACK: Barack Obama Pardoned a Former General Who Lied to the FBI

...Obama said. “And the fact that there is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free. That’s the kind of stuff where you begin to get worried that basic — not just institutional norms — but our basic understanding of rule of law is at risk. And when you start moving in those directions, it can accelerate pretty quickly as we’ve seen in other places.”

But, in 2017, just days before leaving office, Barack Obama pardoned retired Marine Corps general James E. Cartwright, who pleaded guilty to charges of lying to the FBI.

Cartwright served as vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Obama, and was “a key member of Mr. Obama’s national security team in his first term and earned a reputation as the president’s favorite general,” according to the New York Times. Cartwright had leaked classified information regarding Iran’s nuclear program to the media and lied to FBI officials investigating those leaks. He faced up to two years in prison before Obama pardoned him....

Hmmm, I wonder what many things OBammy is really worried about here...

My thought is that Former POTUS Obama is feeling the heat of having misdeeds uncovered.

He prizes his "lily-white image - and it may well be just that - only an "Image".

We need to see where the investigations go.

BTW - did i not see nazi Pelosi asking and calling for an investigation into the dropping of charges against flynn????
Is she absolutely Nuts - that goes to heart of Democrat corruption.

I am all for It!

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Obammy sure has been a chatter-box about charges being dropped against LTG Michael Flynn.

FLASHBACK: Barack Obama Pardoned a Former General Who Lied to the FBI

...Obama said. “And the fact that there is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free. That’s the kind of stuff where you begin to get worried that basic — not just institutional norms — but our basic understanding of rule of law is at risk. And when you start moving in those directions, it can accelerate pretty quickly as we’ve seen in other places.”

But, in 2017, just days before leaving office, Barack Obama pardoned retired Marine Corps general James E. Cartwright, who pleaded guilty to charges of lying to the FBI.

Cartwright served as vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Obama, and was “a key member of Mr. Obama’s national security team in his first term and earned a reputation as the president’s favorite general,” according to the New York Times. Cartwright had leaked classified information regarding Iran’s nuclear program to the media and lied to FBI officials investigating those leaks. He faced up to two years in prison before Obama pardoned him....

Hmmm, I wonder what many things OBammy is really worried about here...

Funny, I haven't heard Obama opine on Comey violating "institutional norms" when he sent FBI agents into the White House against FBI and White House protocols because he "thought he could get away with it".


Yeah Obama must have forgot he pardoned someone accused of lying to the FBI or he just figured that nobody but Fox News would report it so nothing to worry about since "his people" won't hear about it.

[The_Waco_Kid]

how ironic and telling isn't it? Obama .. the most unlawful president ever grousing about Trump breaking the law to investigate Obama's breaking of the law.



BAHHAAAAA

[dilbert firestorm]

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

..or he just figured that nobody but Fox News would report it so nothing to worry about since "his people" won't hear about it.

That right there is the crux of the biscuit. I have a life long liberal friend living with me through this Scamdemic. It is stark raving amazing the things they have never heard of at all. Truly amazing and frankly astounding. Tells me that we need to be better prepared to start with basic and simple topics for the poor things to start, but neither be afraid to go all-in on any single discussion

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

That right there is the crux of the biscuit. I have a life long liberal friend living with me through this Scamdemic. It is stark raving amazing the things they have never heard of at all. Truly amazing and frankly astounding. Tells me that we need to be better prepared to start with basic and simple topics for the poor things to start, but neither be afraid to go all-in on any single discussion

While my best friend, a die hard Democrat and Trump hater to the point of TDS isn't living with me, he too tells me every time I explain to him what is going on, "I didn't hear that" to which I reply, "of course you didn't because you only watch MSNBC.


You might wonder how my best friend and I can get along having opposite opinions on politics but he trusts me and I trust him and neither of us will allow politics to break that friendship. I listen to him and then I correct him. He knows that I spend considerably more time than he does on the ever changing news.


Like many a die hard Democrat, nothing matters but that he hates Trump. I asked him once if getting rid of Trump by any means including the FBI and DOJ and possibly the CIA, telling lies in order to get him out of office would be OK to him and to his credit he says no but he simply will not accept anything I tell him because he knows I watch Fox News while he watches MSNBC. I told him just yesterday when I sent him the latest on Flynn and Adam Schiff who he sent a letter thanking Schiff for his handling of the Trump impeachment, that Adam Schiff has been the biggest liar in Congress. I told him "don't believe me or Fox news, read the damn FBI filings, read the note asking if the truth was what they wanted from Flynn or just catch him in a lie to prosecute him of get him fired". I told him the interviews by Schiff were just released and said "read the damn things and tell me Schiff didn't lie for 3 straight years. Of course he won't, he says he doesn't have the time that I do and he thanks me for keeping him up to date not that it matters.



Yeah, I know, all I can do to keep from screaming but we have been friends for over 40 years so I'm not going to drop him as a friend because he is ill-informed and even when informed will not have his mind changed because hating Trump is all that matters. A text book case of TDS.

[oeb11]

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

While my best friend, a die hard Democrat and Trump hater to the point of TDS isn't living with me, he too tells me every time I explain to him what is going on, "I didn't hear that" to which I reply, "of course you didn't because you only watch MSNBC.

You might wonder how my best friend and I can get along having opposite opinions on politics but he trusts me and I trust him and neither of us will allow politics to break that friendship. I listen to him and then I correct him. He knows that I spend considerably more time than he does on the ever changing news.

Like many a die hard Democrat, nothing matters but that he hates Trump. I asked him once if getting rid of Trump by any means including the FBI and DOJ and possibly the CIA, telling lies in order to get him out of office would be OK to him and to his credit he says no but he simply will not accept anything I tell him because he knows I watch Fox News while he watches MSNBC. I told him just yesterday when I sent him the latest on Flynn and Adam Schiff who he sent a letter thanking Schiff for his handling of the Trump impeachment, that Adam Schiff has been the biggest liar in Congress. I told him "don't believe me or Fox news, read the damn FBI filings, read the note asking if the truth was what they wanted from Flynn or just catch him in a lie to prosecute him of get him fired". I told him the interviews by Schiff were just released and said "read the damn things and tell me Schiff didn't lie for 3 straight years. Of course he won't, he says he doesn't have the time that I do and he thanks me for keeping him up to date not that it matters.

Yeah, I know, all I can do to keep from screaming but we have been friends for over 40 years so I'm not going to drop him as a friend because he is ill-informed and even when informed will not have his mind changed because hating Trump is all that matters. A text book case of TDS.

thats a good friend you have.

maybe he's been abducted by »--->

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

thats a good friend you have.

Yes he is, the kind that will literally give you the shirt off his back. My biggest complaint against my friend as then we get together, he will not let me pay my share of any bill. If I insist and hand him money, he will not take it. If I send it to him in the mail he will send it back. It gets annoying but that's just who he is and it isn't just me. If we are at a table of 6 as we recently were, he picked up the check. Funny thing is, his brother tried to pay the check and was told, "the check has already been taken care of". My friend had gotten up from the table and went and gave his credit card to the waiter knowing that his brother would challenge him for taking the check so he beat him to it.


When my friend comes to visit me in Miami, ( he lives in New Orleans BTW, in Metairie, where I also lived for 20 years ) he insists we stay in a four star hotel even though there is plenty of room in my home but then he can't tip in my home and oh boy does this man love to tip. I insist on paying for my room ( he insists on separate rooms and he makes the reservations ) and I ask him how much was my room and he tells me he can't remember but he will find out and of course never does. When we leave the hotel, he will always leave a gift basket for the staff at the front desk and give a bonus to the kitchen/ waiter staff



Never met a man that so eagerly parts with his money but I can't change him so I have had to accept his generosity all these years.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Mueller was sopping up on the Government Tit. I suspect he is awaiting a new job in the Biden Administration, ...

...and has the credentials for it.

Is Alzheimer's a prerequisite in the Biden administration?

[gnadfly]

It's reported as confirmed that Strzok worked both for the FBI and CIA. So it's pretty easy to see who leaked the General's convo to the press and then set up a perjury trap. My guess is Durham has Strzok in his sights and McCabe's flip isn't wishful thinking.