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Old 04-08-2020, 02:51 AM   #361
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even Republicans are shocked by the firing of Intel Inspector General Atkinson, as Trump, one firing of a true civil servant exercising oversight at a time, slowly turns the United States into a banana republic. Grassley is asking for bipartisan support for an investigation; while traitor Graham, nutjob Paul, and prick of the century who thinks he's funny McConnell won't sign up, he won't have to ask twice for support from leading Senate Dems to do the right thing.

this is not how true conservatives run a government. William F. Buckley is turning over in his grave, and conservative columnist George F. Will just shakes his head at what Trump is doing to our democracy and Constitutional order.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...tkinson-174184

by the time Trump finishes his transformation of our Republican system of government, we'll be left with A Confederacy of Dunces, with some clowns thrown in for good measure.

but hey the hobby is alive and well (sorry no links), so there's that..
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i'm not going into detail right now on another piece of evidence that Trump is a clown, but here's the gist:
The Captain of the carrier U.S.S. Roosevelt (Crozier) send an all hands on deck email to basically anyone he thought could help stating his great concern for the safety of his crew after Covid19 broke out on board, stating his men did not need to needlesdly die. the email got leaked to the press. Trump thought it made him look bad, so he pressured Crozier's boss Modly (Sec. of Navy) to fire Crozier, which he did, citing Crozier's failure to follow the chain of command. (Modly should have said hell naw, you can fire me instead. screw the chain of command when you're guys are dying for no good reason.) the sendoff of the Captain by his crew was a sight to behold and made me proud to be an American and mortified that we have such a clown at the top. (Crozier has Covid19 and is in quarantine.)
https://www.google.com/search?biw=41...0.hdyP3WmefbM# the NBC News video is good.[/QUOTE]


sorry for the self-quote, but breaking news is Modly is stepping down after disparaging Captain Crozier to the crew of the U.S.S. Roosevelt and getting rightfully booed. Modly earned his firing; he should have just resigned for being a disgrace to America, like his boss' boss' boss.

the next thing that should happen is Captain Crozier should be restored to command of the Nimitz-class carrier U.S.S.Roosevelt. protecting his crew-come what may-is what a man of honor does. is it sad that our president has no honor and accepts responsibility for nothing. he does dishonor to all of us and this great country that our founders and our men in uniform fought and died for, while the Orange Clown avoided service due to severe heel bone spurs, in which heel he can't seem to recall, however. if you are not feeling utter contempt for the Orange Clown as i am, you may want to check to to make sure you have a pulse..

#ReinstateCaptainCroziernow..
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Old 04-08-2020, 04:27 AM   #363
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i'm not going into detail right now on another piece of evidence that Trump is a clown, but here's the gist:
The Captain of the carrier U.S.S. Roosevelt (Crozier) send an all hands on deck email to basically anyone he thought could help stating his great concern for the safety of his crew after Covid19 broke out on board, stating his men did not need to needlesdly die. the email got leaked to the press. Trump thought it made him look bad, so he pressured Crozier's boss Modly (Sec. of Navy) to fire Crozier, which he did, citing Crozier's failure to follow the chain of command. (Modly should have said hell naw, you can fire me instead. screw the chain of command when you're guys are dying for no good reason.) the sendoff of the Captain by his crew was a sight to behold and made me proud to be an American and mortified that we have such a clown at the top. (Crozier has Covid19 and is in quarantine.)
https://www.google.com/search?biw=41...0.hdyP3WmefbM# the NBC News video is good.


sorry for the self-quote, but breaking news is Modly is stepping down after disparaging Captain Crozier to the crew of the U.S.S. Roosevelt and getting rightfully booed. Modly earned his firing; he should have just resigned for being a disgrace to America, like his boss' boss' boss.

the next thing that should happen is Captain Crozier should be restored to command of the Nimitz-class carrier U.S.S.Roosevelt. protecting his crew-come what may-is what a man of honor does. is it sad that our president has no honor and accepts responsibility for nothing. he does dishonor to all of us and this great country that our founders and our men in uniform fought and died for, while the Orange Clown avoided service due to severe heel bone spurs, in which heel he can't seem to recall, however. if you are not feeling utter contempt for the Orange Clown as i am, you may want to check to to make sure you have a pulse..

#ReinstateCaptainCroziernow..



You've gone off way past the deep end with your Trump derangement syndrome.


"You're in more dire need of a blowjob than any white man in history."

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Old 04-08-2020, 06:14 AM   #364
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You've gone off way past the deep end with your Trump derangement syndrome.
He's voting for Biden this year! Birds of a feather ........
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Old 04-08-2020, 09:11 AM   #365
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i'm not going into detail right now on another piece of evidence that Trump is a clown, but here's the gist:
The Captain of the carrier U.S.S. Roosevelt (Crozier) send an all hands on deck email to basically anyone he thought could help stating his great concern for the safety of his crew after Covid19 broke out on board, stating his men did not need to needlesdly die. the email got leaked to the press. Trump thought it made him look bad, so he pressured Crozier's boss Modly (Sec. of Navy) to fire Crozier, which he did, citing Crozier's failure to follow the chain of command. (Modly should have said hell naw, you can fire me instead. screw the chain of command when you're guys are dying for no good reason.) the sendoff of the Captain by his crew was a sight to behold and made me proud to be an American and mortified that we have such a clown at the top. (Crozier has Covid19 and is in quarantine.)
https://www.google.com/search?biw=41...0.hdyP3WmefbM# the NBC News video is good.

sorry for the self-quote, but breaking news is Modly is stepping down after disparaging Captain Crozier to the crew of the U.S.S. Roosevelt and getting rightfully booed. Modly earned his firing; he should have just resigned for being a disgrace to America, like his boss' boss' boss.

the next thing that should happen is Captain Crozier should be restored to command of the Nimitz-class carrier U.S.S.Roosevelt. protecting his crew-come what may-is what a man of honor does. is it sad that our president has no honor and accepts responsibility for nothing. he does dishonor to all of us and this great country that our founders and our men in uniform fought and died for, while the Orange Clown avoided service due to severe heel bone spurs, in which heel he can't seem to recall, however. if you are not feeling utter contempt for the Orange Clown as i am, you may want to check to to make sure you have a pulse..

#ReinstateCaptainCroziernow..
Every officer learns the Constitutional Paradigm in basic officer training:
Moral maturity assumes that officers remain grounded in a paradigm that regularly returns them to their source of duty . . . it’s the Constitutional Paradigm beginning with the US Constitution and moving through the mission, the service [the Navy], the unit (or ship), the fellow-serviceman (or shipmate) and finally self.
https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/nro...0Encl%2008.pdf
Protecting the crew is 5th in line only ahead of self.

Plain and simple. You can't have the Captain of one of the most destructive pieces of military hardware on the high seas being insubordinate and going around the chain of command. You can't broadcast to the world that that one of our most important military units, patrolling one of the most volatile parts of the world, is operating at decreased effectiveness. That fails to preserve the Constitution, the mission, the service and the unit. Each one of those failings endangers the crew.

Had Crozier not been relieved of his command the question in everyone's mind, including the crew that appeared to love him, would always be whether or not the guy is coming unhinged.

Modly criticizing him publicly to the crew is even worse. Resigning was the right thing to do.

Sounds like Crozier will retain his rank and be reassigned. He will probably receive a new command when the time is right.
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You've gone off way past the deep end with your Trump derangement syndrome.


"You're in more dire need of a blowjob than any white man in history."

umm actually sir i got a pretty good one last night from a 20 year old fine af ebony spinner with a big ol black girl booty..

as to Trump derangement syndrome, when you see your country burning down, you don't just sit there and watch it burn.
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Your opinion 100%
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Can't wait to say PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE US ARMED FORCES JOE BIDEN!!
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If Biden gets in, and I highly doubt it, it's good that he will be living in the White House......that way he can't forget where he's working or how to get there.
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https://www.salon.com/2020/04/08/tru...ic-corruption/

good summary of Trump's latest corruption.
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Salon...you and your links to leftwing rags...yeah right!!
The dem operatives rags complete dribble 100%
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Did you just get your Amazon shipment of the leftwing cool-aide??
You must be parched...drink up my man.
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Can't wait to say PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE US ARMED FORCES JOE BIDEN!!
Problem is bitten couldn't read that DREAM of your of yours off a teleprompter...
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Salon...you and your links to leftwing rags...yeah right!!
The dem operatives rags complete dribble 100%
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Did you just get your Amazon shipment of the leftwing cool-aide??
You must be parched...drink up my man.
sir if there is a single point in the article you dispute, dispute it. otherwise..

i dont read anything so i can adopt it as my own. i read to become informed. i don't need to borrow anyone else's ideas. i'm pretty ok at formulating my own ideas; actually in the political spectrum i'm an anomaly; a "libtard" who actually cares about a balanced budget and is disgusted by the enormous trade deficit with China and who thinks we should make our own stuff and send Chinese garbage back to china? who thinks a wealth tax is a dumb idea? i could go on and on but i wont. (side note: it is a travesty that we have only 3 companies here with the knowhow to manufacture ventilators and CPAP devices to meet demand for covid19: GM, Chysler, and Ford. have you ever ever heard that in left wing, or any wing for that matter, media?)

i can always tell when i'm talking to a brainwashed right winger-different from a principled conservative or libertarian whom i respect-because the convo eventually turns to "Well George Soros.." and i just look at the ceiling like i'm hearing a pitch about great "business opportunities on Amway." it's all George Soros' fault the war in iraq went badly, that we're 21 trillion dollars in debt and about to jump to 23 trillion, and every other problem in America..

i start with what is real and what the evidence supports and i go from there. i checked on Fox News first for info on Trump's firing of the 2 trillion dollar coronavirus bill Inspector General to avoid the perception of bias, and when i found an article on Fox News, critical of trump no less, had been posted later, i updated the thread.

i'm always interested in contrary opinions that are based in reality. George F. Will is an example of a principled conservative whose ideas i enjoy countenancing, even if i am not always in agreement with.

of course you will reply that he's just another Never Trumper. that may be true, but the important question is, why is he a Never Trumper? did he wake up one day and swallow the left's koolaid, as you put it? or maybe there's a different reason why he became a Never Trumper based in the Constitution of the United States, which clearly trump has never read, has no interest in reading, and tramples on every day without a second thought..
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Next time we elect a reality TV personality as President of the United States, I would prefer he or she put us in an episode of "Bikini Destinations" rather than an episode of "Survivor".....
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