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Old 03-26-2020, 06:29 PM   #76
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Do you have any proof, any proof at all, that there is any correlation between how well or how poorly a presidential candidate does in a debate and how people vote? I didn't think so.

Despite Biden's gaffes in the Democratic debates, he won overwhelming support from Democratic voters in the polls. There is little reason to believe that non-Democratic voters will let Biden's infrequent gaffes determine for whom they will vote.

"Why are presidential debates so often inconsequential? After all, many voters do pay attention. Debates routinely attract the largest audience of any televised campaign event. And voters do learn new information, according to several academic studies. But this new information is not likely to change many minds. The debates occur late in the campaign, long after the vast majority of voters have arrived at a decision. Moreover, the debates tend to attract viewers who have an abiding interest in politics and are mostly party loyalists. Instead of the debates affecting who they will vote for, their party loyalty affects who they believe won the debates. For example, in a CNN poll after one of the 2008 debates, 85 percent of Democrats thought that Obama had won, but only 16 percent of Republicans agreed."


https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazi...really-matter/

As I said, and this article points it out -- by the time the debates occur, only a small handful of voters will probably have not decided for whom they will vote. But you are certainly welcome to your OPINION,

You had quite the different tone back then.
So NOW debate don't matter, but then they did
You are either a disingenuous liar or loosing your mind...you talk out of both sides of you mouth!!
I guess you don't remember this post of yours right before the election because you in your infinite wisDUMD SAID hellery was a lock for the Whitehouse.

I put your quote in large bold letters just to refresh your selective memory.





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According to most polls, the popular vote is very close. According to most polls, the electoral vote is not close. Clinton has rather large leads (5 or more points) in key battleground states such as Virginia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Colorado and Pennsylvania. She also leads, by smaller margins, in Ohio and Florida.

Trump has less than 9 weeks to turn the tide. Certainly can be done but each day makes it a little more difficult. THE DEBATES WILL BE A MAJOR DETERMINING FACTOR.




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for evey poll you "claim" shows the HildeWhore leading, there's another showing Trump leading.

in reality .... this race is a dead heat right now ...... nervous yet??

ahahahaha ahahahaha you should be.

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According to most polls, the popular vote is very close. According to most polls, the electoral vote is not close. Clinton has rather large leads (5 or more points) in key battleground states such as Virginia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Colorado and Pennsylvania. She also leads, by smaller margins, in Ohio and Florida.

Trump has less than 9 weeks to turn the tide. Certainly can be done but each day makes it a little more difficult. The debates will be a major determining factor.


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Old 03-27-2020, 08:08 AM   #77
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You had quite the different tone back then.
So NOW debate don't matter, but then they did
You are either a disingenuous liar or loosing your mind...you talk out of both sides of you mouth!!
I guess you don't remember this post of yours right before the election because you in your infinite wisDUMD SAID hellery was a lock for the Whitehouse.

I put your quote in large bold letters just to refresh your selective memory.

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According to most polls, the popular vote is very close. According to most polls, the electoral vote is not close. Clinton has rather large leads (5 or more points) in key battleground states such as Virginia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Colorado and Pennsylvania. She also leads, by smaller margins, in Ohio and Florida.

Trump has less than 9 weeks to turn the tide. Certainly can be done but each day makes it a little more difficult. THE DEBATES WILL BE A MAJOR DETERMINING FACTOR.




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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
for evey poll you "claim" shows the HildeWhore leading, there's another showing Trump leading.

in reality .... this race is a dead heat right now ...... nervous yet??

ahahahaha ahahahaha you should be.

YOUR QUOTE SPEED


According to most polls, the popular vote is very close. According to most polls, the electoral vote is not close. Clinton has rather large leads (5 or more points) in key battleground states such as Virginia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Colorado and Pennsylvania. She also leads, by smaller margins, in Ohio and Florida.

Trump has less than 9 weeks to turn the tide. Certainly can be done but each day makes it a little more difficult. The debates will be a major determining factor.


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You are correct. 4 years ago I thought the debates would have a significant impact on the election. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't.

Since then I have changed my opinion -- probably unique to this election. Many people were "undecided" as to for whom they would vote 4 years ago. There seem to be less in that "undecided" category today. Trump has a large base of voters who will vote for him. He also has a large number of voters who will vote against him independent of who the Democratic candidate turns out to be. I would estimate that maybe 15% maximum of likely voters have not already decided for whom they will vote.

Your opinion is that the presidential debates will have a major impact on the outcome of the election. I disagree. Both are OPINIONS, neither right nor wrong until proven right or wrong. And there is little way to prove these opinions right or wrong.
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