We've Flatten The Curve. It's Time For Texas To Move On.

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by SecretE

This article?

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/...reliable-data/

He even states in the beginning...



Which pretty much mirrors my disclaimer that we need more information.



I also stated in another response nearly 2 weeks ago we don't fully know because we are behind on testing...

https://eccie.net/showthread.php?p=1061990314

My calcs are based on current known data, which probably will deviate somewhat, as we go along and test more people, and resolutions occur (recovery or death), but that 17-20% has to make one take a little pause and not dismiss this yet. To make any final conclusions on this is very premature still.

By the way, I just learned I have a close family member in NY who may have been infected (getting tested tomorrow), so I'm definitely rooting for the mortality rate to decrease and treatments to become more readily available, so we can all get back to somewhat "normal" sooner.

I do agree we have not enough data. The thrust of the article is to consider the undiagnosed asymptomatic and minimally symptomatic infected - which adds a huge number to the total in figuring out the case mortality rate.

We do not have that number - but it is very likely less than 1% case mortality rate for Wuhan corona virus.

And less than that of the Influenza A virus.


You have my prayers for your family member!!

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Wouldn't death from Pneumonia be a natural cause?

The US doesn't put "natural causes" as cause of death anymore on the death certificate.

My point being people who died of pneumonia 3 months ago could of had COVID19

[eccielover]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

The US doesn't put "natural causes" as cause of death anymore on the death certificate.

My point being people who died of pneumonia 3 months ago could of had COVID19

In most of these situations, they are throwing darts at the board as to actual "cause" of death.

If they have any indication of the Wuhan Virus it's automatically being deemed the underlying cause of death. While when it's the ordinary flu, it's pneumonia possibly aggravated by the flu.

The numbers are immediately being skewed by the DemPanic.

[Chung Tran]

you guys seem to think "Liberals" run the World.. any hint of trouble is a Democratic conspiracy, Fake news, all designed to oust Trump from office. constantly looking over your shoulder.

people just want to live their lives.. get over yourselves. nobody cares enough about Trump to silently mobilize like you think they have. every God Damn thread is about defending Trump, or railing against the conspiracy to fuck over his Presidency. grown men constantly worrying that their King is not being worshipped.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

you guys seem to think "Liberals" run the World.. any hint of trouble is a Democratic conspiracy, Fake news, all designed to oust Trump from office. constantly looking over your shoulder.

people just want to live their lives.. get over yourselves. nobody cares enough about Trump to silently mobilize like you think they have. every God Damn thread is about defending Trump, or railing against the conspiracy to fuck over his Presidency. grown men constantly worrying that their King is not being worshipped.

Actually numbnuts, over half the threads are bashing Trump. But then again, you reside in an alternative universe.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by oeb11

I do agree we have not enough data. The thrust of the article is to consider the undiagnosed asymptomatic and minimally symptomatic infected - which adds a huge number to the total in figuring out the case mortality rate.

We do not have that number - but it is very likely less than 1% case mortality rate for Wuhan corona virus.

And less than that of the Influenza A virus.


You have my prayers for your family member!!

Pertaining to that: https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-...ay-11585088464

The cheap/fast antibody test is crucial. We have no idea what we’re even up against.

[Chung Tran]

do any of you listen to Kris Kroc on WBAP, late nights?

he is far to the right on almost every issue, yet even he decries the lack of local Counties taking the virus seriously. he has been railing the last few nights about Colin County, how backwards their county leaders are, how their inaction will set Tarrant, Dallas, and Denton efforts back.

I saw Colin County got a spike in cases today, maybe they'll wake the Hell up.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Pertaining to that: https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-...ay-11585088464

The cheap/fast antibody test is crucial. We have no idea what we’re even up against.

Absolutely. One thing the doctors who wrote your article didn't mention -- I understand you can combine the antibody test with another test and identify people who've been exposed to the virus but are no longer contagious. A small investment in testing can get them back in the workforce. It doesn't matter whether you believe this thing is huge or a hoax. It's crazy we're not putting more effort into testing.

[badderdude]

Russians wanted Trump and we got him. Aint that punishment enough?

[badderdude]

March 25th 18 texas deaths. Yeah this is nothing to worry about. Oh,and 1400 confirmed cases.

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

you guys seem to think "Liberals" run the World.. any hint of trouble is a Democratic conspiracy, Fake news, all designed to oust Trump from office. constantly looking over your shoulder.

people just want to live their lives.. get over yourselves. nobody cares enough about Trump to silently mobilize like you think they have. every God Damn thread is about defending Trump, or railing against the conspiracy to fuck over his Presidency. grown men constantly worrying that their King is not being worshipped.

The taxpayers fund sex reassignment surgery for prisoners, gay men can marry each other, cars that can get 40 miles on one gallon of gasoline are considered polluting since they have any emission whatsoever, merely having a differing opinion on racism makes you a horrible and deplorable racist, conservatives on college campuses merely stating an opinion are considered to be promoting hate speech, not believing every claim of rape makes you an accomplice, and hiring too many white men is illegal - and you say liberals don't run the world?

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Absolutely. One thing the doctors who wrote your article didn't mention -- I understand you can combine the antibody test with another test and identify people who've been exposed to the virus but are no longer contagious. A small investment in testing can get them back in the workforce. It doesn't matter whether you believe this thing is huge or a hoax. It's crazy we're not putting more effort into testing.

That’s exactly what the antibody test does.

[oeb11]

An antibody test merely identifies antibodies in the blood to an antigen - a characteristic protein.

Antibody tests supply an antigen to see if the serum antibodies react to it.

Antibody test identifies an immune reaction to a foreign protein - usually an indication of infection.


Antibody tests cannot discern whether a patient is shedding virus - if a patient is symptomatic - One assumes they are infectious and shedding virus.

No good way to tell easily whether an asymptomatic patient is shedding virus - for the wuhan virus.

That requires the development of specific antigen tests - which - to my knowledge - are not now available.

Antigen tests for some other viruses are available. They do not cross-react with the Wuhan corona virus


please understand this post is a generalization and simplification for lay folk of a complex immune system problem.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

do any of you listen to Kris Kroc on WBAP, late nights?

he is far to the right on almost every issue, yet even he decries the lack of local Counties taking the virus seriously. he has been railing the last few nights about Colin County, how backwards their county leaders are, how their inaction will set Tarrant, Dallas, and Denton efforts back.

I saw Colin County got a spike in cases today, maybe they'll wake the Hell up.

Let's get more theoretical. What happens when Dallas County is "clear" and we import people from other countries who turn up positive for COVID19? Are we going to shut down everything again for months?

The only way to handle this is, since we don't have a vaccine or a cure, is to build up herd immunity by letting the disease run its course. There are things we can do but I'm past "shutting everything down".

Now stop being a little bitch. Be thankful its only killing old people and people with underlying conditions and not children. It's called "life." Stop panicking.

[Missburger]

dallas is a bout to get hit

its coming