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03-23-2020, 03:51 PM
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You call what he's doing PSAs? Wow! He's a human hand grenade in those briefings. Best line I've heard about Trump*'s handling of the coronavirus crisis is by Ron Clain, the Ebola Czar, in 2014. He said 3 weeks ago, "Anyone who believes anything Trump* says about coronavirus, deserves everything they get." Trump* needs to suppress that insatiable ego and get the hell out of the way so the health professionals can get the true word to the American people. Everytime Trump* opens his mouth, he mucks things up and confuses people.
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What does that have to do with the LSM wanting to censor the PSA's...YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER other then "ignorant racist rednecks". You're just IGNORANT!!
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03-23-2020, 07:50 PM
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Do you have any proof, any proof at all, that there is any correlation between how well or how poorly a presidential candidate does in a debate and how people vote? I didn't think so.
Despite Biden's gaffes in the Democratic debates, he won overwhelming support from Democratic voters in the polls. There is little reason to believe that non-Democratic voters will let Biden's infrequent gaffes determine for whom they will vote.
"Why are presidential debates so often inconsequential? After all, many voters do pay attention. Debates routinely attract the largest audience of any televised campaign event. And voters do learn new information, according to several academic studies. But this new information is not likely to change many minds. The debates occur late in the campaign, long after the vast majority of voters have arrived at a decision. Moreover, the debates tend to attract viewers who have an abiding interest in politics and are mostly party loyalists. Instead of the debates affecting who they will vote for, their party loyalty affects who they believe won the debates. For example, in a CNN poll after one of the 2008 debates, 85 percent of Democrats thought that Obama had won, but only 16 percent of Republicans agreed."
https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazi...really-matter/
As I said, and this article points it out -- by the time the debates occur, only a small handful of voters will probably have not decided for whom they will vote. But you are certainly welcome to your OPINION,
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Nice how you didn't address HISTORY...Nixon vs. Kennedy. This is where the MEDIA pointed out that Kennedy looked so "presidential" and it was obvious Nixon looked out of his element.
Let's not forget when mondale questioned President Reagan's age and the come back had the crowd in stitches. To follow your narrative...'that means nothing". By the way SPEED isn't it the independent voters in the "battle ground state" you have been touting about deciding the election...they are the ones who the debates will be a deciding factor on hmmmm??
You didn't address the enthusiasm of the record crowds THAT NO DEMOCRAP can come close to matching...yet alone the record votes he has received IN AN UNCONTESTED RACE for the nomination. If we follow your narrative "that does mean much".
IT TAKES CHARISMA to be a popular politician...AND BITTEN AIN'T GOT IT.
Mini-me has blown MILLIONS and with the personality of a brick it didn't cut it. THIS SHIT ISN'T OPINION...IT'S FACT.
You can say ALL you want about question of his mental state of health, but MANY on the left are worried...I know you'll say "that's not true". The fucking LSM is in a constant state of running interference for this apparent lack of knowing where he is all the time and the CONSTANT gaffes. Hell I'm not even mentioning his threatening attitude(challenges the people he disagrees with to a fight!!) THAT SHIT AIN'T PRESIDENTIAL SPEED!!
When bitten gets on stage and Trump being Trump he will capitalize on bitten's APPARENT lack of cognitive skills and make a fool out of him...sad thing is bitten won't even know it.
Who knows if Trump pisses him off enough he might do like he did that union auto worker and use an expletive and ask his to step out side...it would be a FIRST in Presidential history debate!!
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03-23-2020, 09:45 PM
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She sits there guarding her thread against dissenting opinon.
Yes, a couple of opinion columnist for WaPo are in favor of stopping live broadcast. They even explain why the idea makes sense to them.
Redstate claims it's because it helps trump. That huge 6-8% increase beyond the base. An increase because he started to take the expert's advice. Think what it might be if they didn't have to walk back his comments on a regular basis. He might do the country some good as well as himself. Below is a link that details some of the problems of delivering facts when you have a trump trying to have a rally by TV every day. Fauci is spending a lot of time trying to keep his job. Because trump is unfit to be president.
What do you think will happen to that 6-8% after trump goes against the social distancing recomendations made by the experts. The number of cases continues to increase. The numbers of deaths continues to rise. Trump isn't an expert on anything except putting himself first.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...anthony-fauci/
On a side note, no matter how many caps you use, your childish rants and insults don't change the fact the majority of your posts are opinions. No better than anyone else's and not as good as many. In this thread you squealed like a stuck pig because someone expressed the opinion trump should STFU.
Let's wait and see how long his bump goes after he goes back to being trump.
PS You're a goddamn lying liar about the news blackout. Show a quote for that from the Post, douche-bag.
[3QUOTE=bb1961;1061999784] These shameless fuckers at the Washed Out Post are crying like infants about the daily briefing Trump gives...BECAUSE OF HIS APPROVAL RATING FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE on this issue. Fuck trying to calm peoples fears...these ASSHOLE call for a Media blackout. This is typical of the left...ASSWIPE...this approval news has TRIGGERED them. Trigger away bitches!! The only thing fake about this story is their concern for the American people.
WaPo Calls for End to Live Broadcasts of Trump’s Daily Chinese Virus Briefings as Approval Ratings Soar
Posted at 5:30 pm on March 21, 2020 by Elizabeth Vaughn
U.S President Donald Trump speaks during the final press conference with French President Emmanuel Macron during the G7 summit Monday, Aug. 26, 2019, in Biarritz, southwestern France. French president says he hopes for meeting between US President Trump and Iranian President Rouhani in coming weeks. (AP Photo/Francois Mori)
Washington Post media columnist Margaret Sullivan has called for networks to stop live broadcasts of President Trump’s daily task force briefings which she considers to be dangerous and destructive. She sees them as substitutes for his massive campaign rallies.
Sullivan writes, “These White House sessions — ostensibly meant to give the public critical and truthful information about this frightening crisis — are in fact working against that end. Rather, they have become a daily stage for Trump to play his greatest hits to captive audience members. They come in search of life-or-death information, but here’s what they get from him instead: Self-aggrandizement, media-bashing, exaggeration and outright lies.”
She continues: Trump is doing harm and spreading misinformation while working for his own partisan political benefit — a naked attempt to portray himself as a wartime president bravely leading the nation through a tumultuous time, the FDR of the 21st century.
The press — if it defines its purpose as getting truthful, useful, non-harmful information to the public, as opposed to merely juicing its own ratings and profits — must recognize what is happening and adjust accordingly.
Business as usual simply doesn’t cut it. Minor accommodations, like fact-checking the president’s statements afterward, don’t go nearly far enough to counter the serious damage this man is doing to the public’s well-being.
Radical change is necessary: The cable networks and other news organizations that are taking the president’s briefings as live feeds should stop doing so.
Should they cover the news that’s produced in them? Of course. Thoroughly and relentlessly — with context and fact-checking built in to every step and at every stage.
Read the whole article here.
Nick Arama
The real reason for Sullivan’s consternation is that four polls released last week showed that the majority of Americans approve of Trump’s management of the crisis. ABC News/ Ipsos: 53 percent
Harris Poll: 53 percent
Morning Consult: 53 percent
Survey USA: 51 percent
Several top Democrats have even praised Trump’s efforts recently. California Gov. Gavin Newsom and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo have both publicly complimented the President on his response to the needs of their states. Several days ago, CNN host Dana Bash commended his handling of the crisis.
Many Americans find the daily broadcasts reassuring. They see that the President is steering the ship and they take comfort from that. He is navigating us through unfamiliar and frightening waters.
Sullivan comes across as bitter, small and highly partisan in this piece. Her motive is clear. She wants to stop this man from winning reelection. If he can win over even a small margin of independents who are on the fence or worse, Democrats, he’ll be unstoppable.
Sullivan isn’t the first Democrat to call for an end to the daily Trump broadcasts. On Friday, far-left MSNBC host Rachel Maddow beat her to the punch. Maddow tweeted, “If Trump is going to keep lying like he has been every day on stuff this important, we should, all of us, stop broadcasting it. Honestly, it’s going to cost lives.” (Her comments can be heard on video at the bottom of the page.)
There’s no doubt the broadcasts are benefitting President Trump. But they are also providing the American people with something that is vital during a national crisis:Leadership.[/QUOTE]
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03-23-2020, 10:25 PM
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The bitches article is right there for you to read...you gutter mouth MUNCHY.
You need civil thought provoking words to express your thoughts, but your vile language shows your intellect.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...27c_story.html
You have nothing but insults like a child on the play ground...you would make and excelllent VP choice...bitten threatens and MUNCHY insults.
Liberalism is a gutless choice
thank you for choosing MUNCHY.
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03-24-2020, 02:07 AM
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You're a lying liar. It's really that simple. Goddamned is my opinion but you lying is a fact.
Now you're going to play "I know you are but what am I?".
In your link,
"Radical change is necessary: The cable networks and other news organizations that are taking the president’s briefings as live feeds should stop doing so.
Should they cover the news that’s produced in them? Of course. Thoroughly and relentlessly — with context and fact-checking built in to every step and at every stage."
No call for a blackout like you claimed. I admit I can't provoke thought in someone who doesn't think and is prone to lying.
Since you were unable to refute my points and chose to stand by your lies, you collapse into a soiled heap.
And finally, there is nothing more telling than a little kid who jumps up and down while using CAPS to call attention to himself to prove what a loser he is.
Tell me, little man.
How do you spell the name of the type of fruit Florida is famous for?
I'll give you a hint. It's not spelled the way some moron spelled it in the following;
"Media instills fear in people about a possible cure...BECAUSE ORAGE MAN BAD."
Stomp your feet harder, pinhead.
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The bitches article is right there for you to read...you gutter mouth MUNCHY.
You need civil thought provoking words to express your thoughts, but your vile language shows your intellect.
Gutter mouth? she-caps-alot flaps gums again. Here is your first post.
"These shameless fuckers at the Washed Out Post are crying like infants about the daily briefing Trump gives...BECAUSE OF HIS APPROVAL RATING FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE on this issue. Fuck trying to calm peoples fears...these ASSHOLE call for a Media blackout. This is typical of the left...ASSWIPE...this approval news has TRIGGERED them. Trigger away bitches!! The only thing fake about this story is their concern for the American people.
WaPo Calls for End to Live Broadcasts of Trump’s Daily Chinese Virus Briefings as Approval Ratings Soar"
Ratings soar? To 53%? I already pointed out that's the base plus 6-8%. As soon as trump reverts he'll lose that bump.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...27c_story.html
You have nothing but insults like a child on the play ground...you would make and excelllent VP choice...bitten threatens and MUNCHY insults.
Liberalism is a gutless choice
thank you for choosing MUNCHY.
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Yep, the article was right there for you to read too.
And you didn't.
You made the easy choice. To stay stupid.
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03-24-2020, 04:36 AM
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There you go with you infantile nonsense
That's all the left knows...
You are the one who attacks members with vile words and insults...come November you and the rest of left will be in full meltdown mode.
Hell your in full meltdown already MUNCHY...go ahead and spew more expletive words and vile insults. Bitten got the asswhiping covered for you already.
When bitten loses maybe instead of a concession call to Trump he can challenge him to a cage match.
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03-24-2020, 07:14 AM
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Nice how you didn't address HISTORY...Nixon vs. Kennedy. This is where the MEDIA pointed out that Kennedy looked so "presidential" and it was obvious Nixon looked out of his element.
Let's not forget when mondale questioned President Reagan's age and the come back had the crowd in stitches. To follow your narrative...'that means nothing". By the way SPEED isn't it the independent voters in the "battle ground state" you have been touting about deciding the election...they are the ones who the debates will be a deciding factor on hmmmm??
You didn't address the enthusiasm of the record crowds THAT NO DEMOCRAP can come close to matching...yet alone the record votes he has received IN AN UNCONTESTED RACE for the nomination. If we follow your narrative "that does mean much".
IT TAKES CHARISMA to be a popular politician...AND BITTEN AIN'T GOT IT.
Mini-me has blown MILLIONS and with the personality of a brick it didn't cut it. THIS SHIT ISN'T OPINION...IT'S FACT.
You can say ALL you want about question of his mental state of health, but MANY on the left are worried...I know you'll say "that's not true". The fucking LSM is in a constant state of running interference for this apparent lack of knowing where he is all the time and the CONSTANT gaffes. Hell I'm not even mentioning his threatening attitude(challenges the people he disagrees with to a fight!!) THAT SHIT AIN'T PRESIDENTIAL SPEED!!
When bitten gets on stage and Trump being Trump he will capitalize on bitten's APPARENT lack of cognitive skills and make a fool out of him...sad thing is bitten won't even know it.
Who knows if Trump pisses him off enough he might do like he did that union auto worker and use an expletive and ask his to step out side...it would be a FIRST in Presidential history debate!!
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Nixon vs Kenedy was 60 years ago. This is not the same world today. In today's world we know just about everything there is to know about both candidates without having to listen to debates.
As stated in my cited article, the vast majority of the people who watch the debates will have already made up their minds as to whom to vote for. Republicans will think Trump won and Democrats will think Biden won. No votes will change. Reread my article.
We can argue ad infinitum as to who is more "presidential", Trump or Biden. Making up derogatory names for your competiors is not presidential. Belittleing the leaders of other countries is not presidential.
Unfortunately there is no way to prove who is correct about the importance of debates unless there are exit polls done on electionday and voters are asked what influence their vote the most.
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03-24-2020, 07:58 AM
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Like the 2016 exit polls.
You think for one second that undecided voters in your holy grail "swing states" won't be influenced by the debates...YEAH RIGHT they'll be deciding the election!
How many presidents have threaten physical violence on ANYONE SPEED??
A won't be getting an answer on that one...
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03-24-2020, 08:25 AM
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Like the 2016 exit polls.
You think for one second that undecided voters in your holy grail "swing states" won't be influenced by the debates...YEAH RIGHT they'll be deciding the election!
How many presidents have threaten physical violence on ANYONE SPEED??
A won't be getting an answer on that one...
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2016 exit polls? Do you have access to any 2016 exit polls as to why people voted the way they did? Doubtful.
I ask again -- do you have anything at all to support your OPINION that presidential debates have an impact on for whom voters cast their ballots? I have cited an article that disagrees with your OPINION. You have offered nothing to support your OPINION.
As for Biden threatening physical violence. Here is his statement:
Biden replied, "Don't tell me that, pal, or I'm going to go outside with your ass."
Going outside with your ass? Does that mean physical violence or just continuing the discussion elsewher? You seem to be the only person hung up on this. And is Trump innocent of threatening violence on others or supporting violence?:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/back...ry?id=48415766
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...treason-threat
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump...b0db7da9f29e07
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tacks-database
Believe me when I say that Biden's comment is not going to cost him any votes. There are much more important issues on the minds of voters than a single comment made in the heat of an argument.
Health care. The economy. Immigration. Foreign relations. Race relations.
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03-24-2020, 09:45 AM
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03-24-2020, 09:57 AM
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SR - One may argue one Biden comment - as you did above. The meaning is clear - but Biden is elderly, infirm, and incapable of engaging in a "fight outside" .
The real question is the large and growing number of gaffes and absence moments Biden exhibits - please consider the totality of his presentations.
I recognize you are set in your anti- Trump choice - and i encourage you to Vote Your Conscience.
Biden clearly exhibits a growing dementia - One will in reality, be voting for his VP nominee as POTUS - Biden cannot handle the job for even one term.
Are you in support for Stacey Abrams as POTUS - who could not win the Georgia governor office - by 50,000 votes - and refused to deal with the reality of the defeat????
If not H... - I think it a good chance Abrams or Warren will be VP nominee.
Lizzie as POTUS - she could not get even 10% of her own party in later primaries.
This is a textbook set-up for H..... to take the Oval Office after Biden - if elected- is declared incompetent. Or, H.... will do as she has done before - and end Biden's heartbeat!
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03-24-2020, 09:59 AM
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Yeah what do you think undecided voters don't decide until they cast their vote...they will decide the election. Your so good at deflecting...it happens a lot with sanctimonious narcissists who think their above the "average" person but you're not SPEED. You have said as much about me.
You constantly tout the "battle ground" states but you dance around admitting that in those states the voters will watch debates to see the ability of the candidates to articulate on the questions ask to them.
Bitten doesn't know where he is most of the time
Bitten DOES NOT have the the the charisma Trump does and his supporters are not enthusiastic about him. Fucking Trump draws record standing room only crowds bitten could only dream of.
Im sure you will continue in you TDS illogical nonsense to say "that doesn't matter" as you have for many months now, but saying so doesn't make it true as bad as you would like any critical thing people to believe.
Your TDS has you believing the horseshit that bitten wanted to go out side to talk...you're not that stupid I hope.
This complete statement will not be address by you.
You'll do the same deflecting you always do and not point out where this isn't a correct assessment on the issue at the present time America and the things I pointed out.
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03-24-2020, 10:02 AM
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Unlicensed diagnosis? Violation of board rules?
Yep.
BTW — no Trump loyalist can In good conscience criticize anyone’s mental state or tendencys towards gaffes, when they do the MAGA GOOSESTEP.
But I suspect yous are incapable of understanding that because you’re likely on serious meds yourself.
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03-24-2020, 10:30 AM
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Violation of board rules?
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Yes ASSWIPE AKA HoseHummer yous have managed to violated the mulit-handle policy but without board moderation you're still allowed to post one worthless post after the next.
Yous got perma-banned you a reason...because yous stupid idiotic behavior.
Now go give your partners hose a tug and a good sucking...don't come back with "I'm not ASSWIPE" WE ALL KNOW YOUS A FUCKING PHONY!!
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03-24-2020, 11:39 AM
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Fuck you beebsy. Yous just prattle on day after day about ASSWIPE.
I think you've got a buttshole problem. Maybe if yous don't die of the Chinese Cold (what are yous idiots calling it today?) yous should book an consult with a proctologist or maybe even a CR doc and have that salami removed from your bum.
Or whatever else is up there.
"We all know" you've got an anus issue.
Maybe some of your patriotic friends can explain it to yous.
Great chirp, sally!
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