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Old 12-14-2019, 08:17 AM   #31
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Let me gets this straight. Obama is on trial here? Biden too? Trump didn’t murder anybody so there’s no crime?

Why is he hidings his financials then? Because he knows what you silly idiots refuse to acknowledge. Why is he fighting every attempt to obtain personal and business records? Because he’s a fucking criminal, and yous know it.
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Old 12-14-2019, 08:19 AM   #32
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Let me gets this straight. Obama is on trial here? Biden too? Trump didn’t murder anybody so there’s no crime?

Why is he hidings his financials then? Because he knows what you silly idiots refuse to acknowledge. Why is he fighting every attempt to obtain personal and business records? Because he’s a fucking criminal, and yous know it.
Does Canada not have the presumption of innocence?

Here in America Trump has not been convicted of any crimes as far as I've heard.

Also, privacy is a legitimate reason to not have a person's tax returns distributed to the masses.

Let's face it though this is just a fishing expedition to try and find something to attempt to harm our President.

Are you a foreign agent attempting to harm the United States?
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Old 12-14-2019, 10:18 AM   #33
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For me, and many others, violating your oath of office is criminal. Bribery was too finite. Abuse of power and obstruction of congress are good enough. Personal gain and dismissing law. Pretty basic shit.

I really hold out the Senate will hold up the Constitution.
Again that's all presumptions imposed by the House. No actual witnesses or substantiating evidence to support the claim that Donald Trump violated the oath of office or bribed a foreign Government Official. Democrats have premeditated the idea of Impeaching Trump even before the call to President Zelensky. That's in violation of their oath of office and abuse of their power.
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Old 12-14-2019, 10:37 AM   #34
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DPST's started the Impeachment the day after the Nov 2016 election results came out.

They have been despertely searching for a "Cover" charge ever since.

Time running - they in desperation - and it shows. Trump's "crime" was winning the election over H,,,,,
DPST's are setting a dangerous precedent in their behavior - if every House with a different Party POTUS Impeaches - which is the real crime to the DPST's - it spells a very bad outcome for our representative. democracy - which is founded on
1-Majority rule
2- respect of /for, and by the "loyal minority" - which the House has shown to be completely not loyal to the principles of majority rule - while enjoying the privileges of respect by the POTUIS and Senate for their 3 year temper tantrum of the NOV 2016 election.

The Progressive totalitarians make it clear they have no interest in anything other than total One party socialist control!
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:30 AM   #35
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Again that's all presumptions


An admission from the chief of staff and a confession on the call.


imposed by the House. No actual witnesses or substantiating evidence to support the claim that Donald Trump violated the oath of office


It's plain for the world to see he's preventing Congress from a complete investigation. Gauranteed by the Constitution.

or bribed a foreign Government Official. Democrats have premeditated the idea of Impeaching Trump even before the call to President Zelensky.

The call was the straw that broke the partisan camel's back. At what point do the Republican say, "Okay, he actually killed someone. I think he's unworthy."


Blind impeachment resistance not novel to Trump Republicans

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/video/b...ans/vp-AAK77dV

That's in violation of their oath of office and abuse of their power.
The house is well within their power to do what they are doing.









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Old 12-14-2019, 11:40 AM   #36
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No need of witnesses to prove Obstruction of Congress.
You know nothing about the separation of powers and the three branches of Gumment.
Congress,The White House and Supreme Court...congress don't TRUMP the other two but I don't expect you to comprehend that!!
Did the judicial branch slip you pea brain...
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:46 AM   #37
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Quoting Swift in relation to the Impeachment charges - how "Apropos"
LOL
Thank you for that one, 9500!
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:47 AM   #38
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You make it to easy. For a guy who taught constitutional law, he sure got slapped down a lot.


https://www.cato.org/publications/co...dern-president


Obama Has Lost in the Supreme Court More Than Any Modern President

https://www.cato.org/publications/co...ing-presidency


Top 10 Ways Obama Violated the Constitution during His Presidency

https://breakingnewshouse.com/2019/0...-constitution/


In 6-2 Decision, US Supreme Court Declares Obama Violated the Constitution






https://www.politico.com/story/2012/...ongress-077988


The House has voted to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress over his failure to turn over documents related to the Fast and Furious scandal, the first time Congress has taken such a dramatic move against a sitting Cabinet official.
The vote was 255-67, with 17 Democrats voting in support of a criminal contempt resolution, which authorizes Republicans leaders to seek criminal charges against Holder. This Democratic support came despite a round of behind-the-scenes lobbying by senior White House and Justice officials - as well as pressure from party leaders - to support Holder.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_privilege


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There was nothing legal about holding money already appropriated from an ally already certified to have passed corruption standards.
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:48 AM   #39
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Again that's all presumptions imposed by the House. No actual witnesses or substantiating evidence to support the claim that Donald Trump violated the oath of office or bribed a foreign Government Official.
they were all blocked from appearing before the Committee.. why do you guys continue this charade? you know damn well what happened

all we have is the phone transcript.. God damn it, what else do we need?
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:49 AM   #40
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McGahn would testify to Obstruction of Congress.
There you go again....WHAT IS THAT STUPID COMMENT...you know absolutely nothing about the separation of powers
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:56 AM   #41
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You know nothing about the separation of powers and the three branches of Gumment.
Congress,The White House and Supreme Court...congress don't TRUMP the other two but I don't expect you to comprehend that!!
Did the judicial branch slip you pea brain...

I understand you're deliberately presenting yourself as a backwoods redneck. You might get more respect, as I do oeb11, if you improved your writing.

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Old 12-14-2019, 11:58 AM   #42
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I understand you're deliberately presenting yourself as a backwoods redneck. You might get more respect, as I do oeb11, if you improved your writing.

I guess I'm blessed, that guy went on my blocked list months ago.
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:59 AM   #43
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There you go again....WHAT IS THAT STUPID COMMENT...you know absolutely nothing about the separation of powers

Now you're just missing a period and a question mark. You preggers?









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Old 12-14-2019, 12:01 PM   #44
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I guess I'm blessed, that guy went on my blocked list months ago.
From the guy who raw dogs fat nasty whales...are cows next??
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Old 12-14-2019, 12:03 PM   #45
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I guess I'm blessed, that guy went on my blocked list months ago.
You have good judgment, Chungster. I like to read what the other guys (some of them) present when they call me out. This guy just calls me stupid and doesn't drop any new information.

Good on you.
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