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Old 10-04-2019, 03:40 PM   #16
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"In the last six polls completed after September 20, Warren led in four and Biden led in three." This statement has me confused. When I went to school, 4 + 3 = 7, not six. Has math changed along with everything else??
Sorry, last seven polls.
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Old 10-04-2019, 03:45 PM   #17
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They are over playing their hand with women. Nobody factors in the married women who do not want their husbands to go down the Kavanaugh road. Women are keenly aware now that one false accusation of rape or sexual assault could destroy their lives. The Dems do not believe in innocent until proving guilty. And that puts fear in the heart of many married women, regardless of color or stature.

i agree with what you are saying about overplaying the #MeToo thing but just an fyi "irregardles" is a nonstandard synonym for regardless.


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Old 10-04-2019, 03:49 PM   #18
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They are over playing their hand with women. Nobody factors in the married women who do not want their husbands to go down the Kavanaugh road. Women are keenly aware now that one false accusation of rape or sexual assault could destroy their lives. The Dems do not believe in innocent until proving guilty. And that puts fear in the heart of many married women, irregardless of color or stature.
This is being used by the progressive wing of the Democratic party to attack Biden. He's "handsy." He doesn't call for the impeachment of Kavanaugh, and he went easy on Clarence Thomas when Anita Hill testified.
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No Mid West support. No AA support. No Wall St support. No way.
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what huge chunk? a bunch of young idealistic idiots who will become conservatives when they "grow up"?

Warren will turn off the bulk of Democrats and even if all the millennial/Gen Z retards screaming for socialism come out en masse (here's poking a stick in yer eye Ecky9.5k) it won't be nearly enough to offset the bulk of the current core of the Democratic party's voting block who won't support a radical leftist like Warren or Bernie.
I don't think that's the way your mainstream Democrat thinks. See this:

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release...ReleaseID=3641

70% of Democrat and Democrat leaning voters said they'd be excited if Elizabeth Warren were nominated, 18% said they would not be. That's far and away the best of the candidates. For Biden 56% said they'd be excited and 35% said they wouldn't. And the numbers for Bernie were pretty similar - 55% excited and 38% not. As to Bambino's points, 68% of black Democrats are excited about Warren, and Warren and Sanders were far ahead of Biden in fundraising during the last quarter:

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/20...aising-totals/

Admittedly though, some of those 70% wouldn't be so excited if they understood what was going to happen to deficits, taxes and the economy if her policies were implemented. Getting free health and child care, having your student loans wiped out, fucking over the billionaire capitalists, and cutting net carbon emissions to "0" may be an exciting message from the soap box, but the hangover if all that happens is going to be world class. Think Greece, Zimbabwe or Argentina.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:10 PM   #20
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good to see a thread with real information, and no name-calling meanderings.. I will post before that happens, unfortunately realclearpolitics would probably put the name-calling meandering probability above 90%.

I would like to short Yang's probability.. do you know his ticker symbol?

I know the election is 13 months out, but Warren vs. Trump, it is. so yes, Warren will keep rising in the polls, and Trump will not be removed by impeachment. that is real clear politics from my POV
It's pretty obvious that Trump won't be impeached especially when every time the Ukraine pot of stew gets stirred Biden floats to the top. I see both Biden and his son as weak men that won't endure any investigation based on their business dealings in China or Ukraine. Sanders will have no choice but to step out of the race due to medical reasons the rest of the mutants will run out of money,support,time and patience. Warren most likely will get the nomination and Trump will eat her lunch, he's got her number too.
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I don't think that's the way your mainstream Democrat thinks. See this:

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release...ReleaseID=3641

70% of Democrat and Democrat leaning voters said they'd be excited if Elizabeth Warren were nominated, 18% said they would not be. That's far and away the best of the candidates. For Biden 56% said they'd be excited and 35% said they wouldn't. And the numbers for Bernie were pretty similar - 55% excited and 38% not. As to Bambino's points, 68% of black Democrats are excited about Warren, and Warren and Sanders were far ahead of Biden in fundraising during the last quarter:

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/20...aising-totals/

Admittedly though, some of those 70% wouldn't be so excited if they understood what was going to happen to deficits, taxes and the economy if her policies were implemented. Getting free health and child care, having your student loans wiped out, fucking over the billionaire capitalists, and cutting net carbon emissions to "0" may be an exciting message from the soap box, but the hangover if all that happens is going to be world class. Think Greece, Zimbabwe or Argentina.
Wall St litards already said they won’t support. What’s her AA support? Do you think the south and Midwest will support her? She’s Hillary on steroids.
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Wall St litards already said they won’t support. What’s her AA support? Do you think the south and Midwest will support her? She’s Hillary on steroids.
You've got valid points. While black Democrats overall like her, she's not going to get the turnout that Obama got. And true, she's not going to get a lot of money from Wall Street, although she's getting plenty from other people. Hillary won the popular vote and if she'd focused more effort on Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, she might have brought home the bacon. If Warren is Hillary on steroids, without the Clinton baggage, that's not good for Trump.
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You've got valid points. While black Democrats overall like her, she's not going to get the turnout that Obama got. And true, she's not going to get a lot of money from Wall Street, although she's getting plenty from other people. Hillary won the popular vote and if she'd focused more effort on Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, she might have brought home the bacon. If Warren is Hillary on steroids, without the Clinton baggage, that's not good for Trump.
Well, didn’t because she couldn’t. Warrens policy’s don’t jive with the rust belt, gun control energy, and Medicare for all. Plus her hatred of fossil fuels. Like Hillary, Pocahontas is a goldmine for Trump’s branding. Normal folks won’t connect with her.
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Guess he's gotten sensitive since i embarrassed his ass the other day!
brother WD all due respect you didn't embarrass Chung nor is Chung a Liar
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It's pretty obvious that Trump won't be impeached especially when every time the Ukraine pot of stew gets stirred Biden floats to the top. I see both Biden and his son as weak men that won't endure any investigation based on their business dealings in China or Ukraine. Sanders will have no choice but to step out of the race due to medical reasons the rest of the mutants will run out of money,support,time and patience. Warren most likely will get the nomination and Trump will eat her lunch, he's got her number too.
you are probably right. what a mess that will need cleaned up. it will make bushes mess look like spilled milk. I pray that anyone but trump. hes a national disgrace
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Admittedly though, many of those 70% wouldn't be so excited if they understood what was going to happen to deficits, taxes and the economy if her policies were implemented. Getting free health and child care, having your student loans wiped out, fucking over the billionaire capitalists, and cutting net carbon emissions to "0" may be an exciting message from the soap box, but the hangover if all that happens is going to be world class. Think Greece, Zimbabwe or Argentina.

exactly .. let's see how excited Democrats are when Warren proposes all this leftist shit.

and i made a correction to your post .. see above.
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exactly .. let's see how excited Democrats are when Warren proposes all this leftist shit.

and i made a correction to your post .. see above.
I agree WK. Warren would be a disaster. shes not a democrat. shes a socialist
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exactly .. let's see how excited Democrats are when Warren proposes all this leftist shit.
A lot of Democrats are excited about it. Will some of that excitement die down when the candidates aren't trying to outbid each other to see who can give away the most free stuff? Maybe, maybe not.
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you are probably right. what a mess that will need cleaned up. it will make bushes mess look like spilled milk. I pray that anyone but trump. hes a national disgrace
Yep it's a mess alright. It started with Biden and Obama and the corrupt Ukraine Government and one Billion American Dollars. Trump is going to expose it all. Trump isn't the disgrace it's the Obama administration specifically Joe Biden they are the ones that started this in 2015. It's all going to eventually snowball into a cataclysmic disaster for the Democrats in 2020.
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A lot of Democrats are excited about it. Will some of that excitement die down when the candidates aren't trying to outbid each other to see who can give away the most free stuff? Maybe, maybe not.
Who cares about leftist Democrats, what about Independents? They’re the key. As well as moderate Democrats. I doubt very many Republicans are buying her bullshit. Why did Trump get elected in the first place? He got Democrats to vote for him in the rust belt. Warren doesn’t resonate with them. They’re older and don’t want their Medicare fucked with. And they vote.
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