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Old 09-02-2019, 08:16 PM   #1
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Default Texas gunman was fired from job, called FBI before shooting

the truth begins to emerge on the shooter's motive in Odessa. he was fired. not racially motivated. not terrorism. just a guy who went postal. the libtards aren't liking this .. they wanted to blame this on Trump. they can't.

i think the shooter was stopped based on the calls to the FBI and police by himself and his employer to the police. the police aren't confirming that. to get pulled over for no turning signal is pretty flimsy. i think it is clear the guy was returning to his place of employ to go postal. he probably did not have a rifle at the time, given the timing he had more than enough time to go get it and return. the FBI claims it was not because he was fired. so that was the straw that sent him over the edge? did he show up knowing he was going to be fired with the rifle then drive around waiting to return?


Texas gunman was fired from job, called FBI before shooting

https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-un...040100404.html


PAUL J. WEBER and JAKE BLEIBERG, Associated Press


ODESSA, Texas (AP) — The gunman in a spate of violence after a routine traffic stop in West Texas had just been fired from his job and called both police and the FBI before the shooting began, authorities said Monday.

Odessa Police Chief Michael Gerke said 36-year-old Seth Aaron Ator had been fired Saturday from Journey Oilfield Services. He said both Ator and the company called 911 after the firing but that Ator was gone by the time police showed up. FBI special agent Christopher Combs says Ator's statements on the phone were "rambling."

Authorities said Ator killed seven people and injured at least 22 others Saturday before officers killed him outside a busy movie theater in Odessa.

Combs said Ator "was on a long spiral down" before the shooting and that he went to work that day "in trouble."

"This did not happen because he was fired. He showed up to work enraged," said FBI special agent Christopher Combs of the suspected shooter.

Combs said the place where Ator lived was "a strange residence" and that the condition reflected "what his mental state was going into this." He didn't elaborate.

Online court records show Ator was arrested in 2001 for a misdemeanor offense that would not have prevented him from legally purchasing firearms in Texas, although authorities have not said where Ator got the "AR style" weapon he used.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott tweeted Monday that "we must keep guns out of criminals' hands" — words similar to his remarks that followed another mass shooting in El Paso on Aug. 3, when he said firearms must be kept from "deranged killers." But Abbott, a Republican and avid gun rights supporter, has been noncommittal about tightening Texas gun laws.

He also tweeted that Ator failed a previous gun background check and didn't go through one for the weapon he used in Odessa. He did not elaborate, and a spokesman referred questions to the Texas Department of Public Safety, which didn't immediately respond for comment.

Authorities said those killed were between 15 and 57 years old but did not immediately provide a list of names. Family and employers, however, said that among the dead were Edwin Peregrino, 25, who ran out of his parents' home to see what the commotion was; mail carrier Mary Granados, 29, slain in her U.S. Postal Service truck; and 15-year-old high school student Leilah Hernandez, who was walking out of an auto dealership.

Hundreds of people gathered at a local university in the Permian Basin region known for its oil industry Sunday evening for a prayer vigil to console each other and grieve the loss of life.

"We're out here in the middle of nowhere," Midland Mayor Jerry Morales told the crowd. "All we've talked about is oil forever. And then this happens."

The attack began Saturday afternoon when Texas state troopers tried pulling over a gold car on Interstate 20 for failing to signal a left turn. Before the vehicle came to a complete stop, the driver "pointed a rifle toward the rear window of his car and fired several shots" toward the patrol car stopping him, according to Texas Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Katherine Cesinger. The gunshots struck a trooper, Cesinger said, after which the gunman fled and continued shooting. He fired at random as he drove in the area of Odessa and Midland, two cities more than 300 miles (482 kilometers) west of Dallas.

Police used a marked SUV to ram the mail truck outside the Cinergy Movie Theater in Odessa, disabling the vehicle. The gunman then fired at police, wounding two officers before he was killed.

"Local law enforcement and state troopers pursued him and stopped him from possibly going into a crowded movie theater and having another event of mass violence," FBI special agent Christopher Combs said.

Police said Ator's arrest in 2001 was in the county where Waco is located, hundreds of miles east of Odessa. Online court records show he was charged then with misdemeanor criminal trespass and evading arrest. He entered guilty pleas in a deferred prosecution agreement where the charge was waived after he served 24 months of probation, according to records.

Gerke, the Odessa police chief, refused to say the name of the shooter during a televised news conference, saying he wouldn't give him notoriety. But police later posted his name on Facebook. A similar approach has been taken in some other recent mass shootings in an effort to deny shooters notoriety.

The shooting came at the end of an already violent month in Texas following the El Paso attack at a Walmart that left 22 people dead. Sitting beside authorities in Odessa, Abbott ticked off a list of mass shootings that have now killed nearly 70 since 2016 in his state alone.

"I have been to too many of these events," Abbott said. "Too many Texans are in mourning. Too many Texans have lost their lives. The status quo in Texas is unacceptable, and action is needed."

On Sunday, a number of looser gun laws that Abbott signed this year took effect on the first day of September, including one that would arm more teachers in Texas schools.

Saturday's shooting brings the number of mass killings in the U.S. so far this year to 25, matching the number in all of 2018, according to The AP/USATODAY/Northeastern University mass murder database. The number of people killed this year has already reached 142, surpassing the 140 people who were killed of all last year. The database tracks homicides where four or more people are killed, not including the offender.

Daniel Munoz, 28, of Odessa, was headed to a bar to meet a friend when he noticed the driver of an approaching car was holding what appeared to be a rifle.

"This is my street instincts: When a car is approaching you and you see a gun of any type, just get down," said Munoz, who moved from San Diego about a year ago to work in oil country. "Luckily I got down. ... Sure enough, I hear the shots go off. He let off at least three shots on me."

He said he was treated at a hospital and is physically OK, though bewildered by the experience.

"I'm just trying to turn the corner and I got shot — I'm getting shot at? What's the world coming to? For real?"
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Weber reported from Austin. Associated Press journalists Jeff Karoub in Detroit; Eric Tucker, Michael Balsamo, Meghan Hoyer and Michael Biesecker in Washington; and Tim Talley in Oklahoma City contributed to this report.
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:00 PM   #2
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Sorry Waco It will be another Trump lunatic. Seems to be a Trend. Bb1961 calls it TDS
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:01 PM   #3
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Sorry Waco It will be another Trump lunatic. Seems to be a Trend. Bb1961 calls it TDS

he loves Obama. he converted to Islam. you is a scardey-kat.








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Old 09-02-2019, 10:03 PM   #4
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So what does this mean?

Another failure of the DOJ?

Or are you hijacking your own threAd?
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:07 PM   #5
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So what does this mean?

Another failure of the DOJ?

Or are you hijacking your own threAd?

it means even background checks don't prevent people from getting guns. they denied him at least once.


and only u can hi jack a thread. thong boi.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:48 PM   #6
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He was fired....should have been able to get a great job the next day... thanks to the great Trump economy
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Old 09-02-2019, 11:02 PM   #7
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He was fired....should have been able to get a great job the next day... thanks to the great Trump economy

really? the Trump economy is for winners. not losers. do u make more than the average trucker?

maybe he should have tried Indeed first??


https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Journe...b4fc4a8a4cb4d9
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Old 09-03-2019, 06:32 AM   #8
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Another Trumper with a Weapon. Not really even a story anymore. These cowards are easy to identify with their MAGA hats. Scardy Cats DTDS
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Very sad , sorry for the families , But here we go again with many failures FBBI, Locals, This nut job called the fbbi and pointed a gun at a neighbor and Nothing ( you would think that when a mental case calls the fbbi they would just may-be SEND some one to talk to this nut,,,
And of course the LSM is blaming everything everyone but the nut , this is the main reason nothing gets done.
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Very sad , sorry for the families , But here we go again with many failures FBBI, Locals, This nut job called the fbbi and pointed a gun at a neighbor and Nothing ( you would think that when a mental case calls the fbbi they would just may-be SEND some one to talk to this nut,,,
And of course the LSM is blaming everything everyone but the nut , this is the main reason nothing gets done.
I agree, lots of failures. did the neighbor call the Cops when the gun was pointed? I assume so, but I have not seen confirmation, or what took place after. I heard this morning that the Cop who pulled the gunman over, had no knowledge of anything that happened previous, which I'm having trouble buying. obviously a reason to stop had to be "created".. dash or bodycam footage should be able to give a clue.. the level of nervousness and angst present.
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Very sad , sorry for the families , But here we go again with many failures FBBI, Locals, This nut job called the fbbi and pointed a gun at a neighbor and Nothing ( you would think that when a mental case calls the fbbi they would just may-be SEND some one to talk to this nut,,,
And of course the LSM is blaming everything everyone but the nut , this is the main reason nothing gets done.
Guns don’t kill people.

The media does.

What a fucking joke, rexy
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Old 09-03-2019, 10:23 AM   #12
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I agree, lots of failures. did the neighbor call the Cops when the gun was pointed? I assume so, but I have not seen confirmation, or what took place after. I heard this morning that the Cop who pulled the gunman over, had no knowledge of anything that happened previous, which I'm having trouble buying. obviously a reason to stop had to be "created".. dash or bodycam footage should be able to give a clue.. the level of nervousness and angst present.

i don't buy that either. who gets pulled over for not using a turn signal? anyone here?? if the police did not put out a bulletin on this guy why not?? isn't that what they are for?
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who gets pulled over for not using a turn signal? anyone here??
I did once. I was 17 and riding a motorcycle. The cop who pulled me over was on a police motorcycle. He was annoyed that I passed him earlier. I was in the exit lane so I didn't really need to use a turn (exit) signal but the law is always right.
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Cops should have seen he was a lunatic from the Bernie and Beto bumper stickers on his car.
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i don't buy that either. who gets pulled over for not using a turn signal? anyone here?? if the police did not put out a bulletin on this guy why not?? isn't that what they are for?
The police can write you a ticket for not using a turn signal....the fines help supply small towns with money
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