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08-04-2019, 02:46 PM
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So, somebody have the breakdown of the ethnic background of shooters and victims for each one of the *incidents*?
I know we hear it from Trump if the person is of dark skin.
And we hear media when it is an anglo shooter. Moreso the liberals when Trump says nothing of an anglo shooter.
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08-04-2019, 04:03 PM
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Will see what trump do.
I support right to arm and 4th amendment. BUT I also believe that amendment is old. The amendment was written during wild Wild West. Keep right to bear arm but make limitations. No one need assault rifles and wild Wild West has long gone.
If it is possible, I like Chris Rock’s proposal
https://youtu.be/OuX-nFmL0II
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08-04-2019, 04:15 PM
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The 4th Amendment is the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures and it was written when the Bill of Rights was written. The Bill of Rights was NOT written during the Wild Wild West, a movie with Will Smith. The Bill of Rights was written as part of the U.S. Constitution. The correct Amendment would be the 2nd Amendment giving the population the individual right to bear arms, as in to possess firearms, not as in to have arms that resembles those of bears, the woods dwelling animal. It also gives individuals the right to form a regulated militia while giving them the individual right to bear arms. Do you know what the regulated militia part means and why was it written into the United States Constitution Bill of Rights?
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08-04-2019, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LuvHerMadlyEverytime
The 4th Amendment is the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures and it was written when the Bill of Rights was written. The Bill of Rights was NOT written during the Wild Wild West, a movie with Will Smith. The Bill of Rights was written as part of the U.S. Constitution. The correct Amendment would be the 2nd Amendment giving the population the individual right to bear arms, as in to possess firearms, not as in to have arms that resembles those of bears, the woods dwelling animal. It also gives individuals the right to form a regulated militia while giving them the individual right to bear arms. Do you know what the regulated militia part means and why was it written into the United States Constitution Bill of Rights?
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Thank you for correction and explanation.
The amendment also stated “a well regulated Militia”
Will see what trump do.
I support right to arm and 2nd amendment. BUT I also believe that amendment is old. The amendment was written during Wild Wild West (not the movie). Keep right to bear arm but make limitations. No one need assault rifles and Wild Wild West (not the movie) has long gone.
If it is possible, I like Chris Rock’s proposal
https://youtu.be/OuX-nFmL0II
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08-04-2019, 11:36 PM
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Lol, nothing will happen out of these tradegies unfortunately. There are spineless people in the government who truly don't give a rats ass. They will hide behind stupid bullshit arguments like, "Vidya games are causing these actions".
If Sandy Hook couldn't create any type of reform, nothing will.I hope these people who argues on gun reform never have to see their love ones lying in a pool of blood.
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08-05-2019, 12:47 PM
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Thoughts and prayers! That's what we need and nothing else!
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08-05-2019, 01:17 PM
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If Sandy Hook couldn't create any type of reform, nothing will.
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but.. but.. did Sandy really happen?
https://www.wshu.org/post/alex-jones...awyer#stream/0
people actually believe this guy..
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08-05-2019, 05:02 PM
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Another shooting in Ohio.
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08-05-2019, 05:25 PM
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the boards' rightwing nutters are noticeably quiet
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08-05-2019, 06:02 PM
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Death toll in Ep is at 22 now. Dude in Ohio shot his OWN SISTER.
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08-05-2019, 06:38 PM
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Today Trump called for cultural changes, including stopping the “glorification of violence in our society” in video games and elsewhere.
Hours earlier, on Twitter, he called for “strong background checks” and suggested pairing gun legislation with new immigration laws, a top priority of his that he has failed to move through Congress. Trump did not elaborate on his call for stronger background checks during his televised remarks.
Trump made a similar call to strengthen background checks after a mass shooting last year at a Florida school, and has since threatened to veto bills passed by House Democrats seeking to do so.
In other words, he'll do nothing significant except make speeches about it.
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08-05-2019, 07:29 PM
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What gun control policies do any of you propose or advocate that would have prevented any of the recent mass shootings?
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08-05-2019, 07:40 PM
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Will see what trump do.
I support right to arm and 4th amendment. BUT I also believe that amendment is old. The amendment was written during wild Wild West. Keep right to bear arm but make limitations. No one need assault rifles and wild Wild West has long gone.
If it is possible, I like Chris Rock’s proposal
https://youtu.be/OuX-nFmL0II
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The 2nd Amendment is far older that the days of the Wild West. It was written in the late 1700’s when only the barest eastern edge of the continent was settled by Europeans and it took thirty seconds to reload a one-shot riffle (many of which, didn’t have “rifling”).
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08-05-2019, 07:46 PM
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What gun control policies do any of you propose or advocate that would have prevented any of the recent mass shootings?
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Getting rid of all guns outside the hands of the government would do the trick. Then anybody found with a gun would, a priori, be a criminal. Not all those who support gun regulation are as strict as I am, but they serve no useful purpose in a civilized society.
Beyond that, strict liability on the seller of every weapon for any crime committed with the gun would also work. That and make every gun owner carry a $5m liability policy in order to own a gun. The the civil liability system will internalize the horrific external costs of guns that are presently borne by governments and the random victims, and roll them into the price of gun ownership. When the price of the gun starts including the costs of all the crime, additional law enforcement, and individual violence, people will probably rethink their need fir guns because their cost will skyrocket without the current “subsidies” that externalities g those costs give gun owners and manufacturers.
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08-05-2019, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TexTushHog
Getting rid of all guns outside the hands of the government would do the trick. Then anybody found with a gun would, a priori, be a criminal. Not all those who support gun regulation are as strict as I am, but they serve no useful purpose in a civilized society.
Beyond that, strict liability on the seller of every weapon for any crime committed with the gun would also work. That and make every gun owner carry a $5m liability policy in order to own a gun. The the civil liability system will internalize the horrific external costs of guns that are presently borne by governments and the random victims, and roll them into the price of gun ownership. When the price of the gun starts including the costs of all the crime, additional law enforcement, and individual violence, people will probably rethink their need fir guns because their cost will skyrocket without the current “subsidies” that externalities g those costs give gun owners and manufacturers.
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Yes I can see no problems with only government law enforcement officials having firearms kind of like that Arlington police officer last week so afraid of a 40lbs dog he wildly shoots his gun while backing up.
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