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Originally Posted by GiveToMe
You have no clue about those oh I will do more for you if you keep coming back to me places. It's all a hustle. LOL, some of the girls don't come back for you to come back to if you aren't quick enough. LOL.
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The spas I go to give me a new girl who does what I want if can not come back soon enough for a previous one. That's good. I do not want to be seeing the same provider more than 2 or 3 times in 6 months - 1 year; I'm polyamorous, and the girls are rotating in and out to "vacations" etc. When I travel, most places worldwide have WGs visiting from other places; Houston is no different. Yes, I do end up missing some girls -that's life. If the spa does not have someone for me they tell me when to come back. So then I go to a different spa on my list that night. So no money spent if not getting what I want - AFTER the first 1-3 visits. BEFORE, I only spend for massage. Not all girls are as good as all others, but as long as I get my minimum I am happy, and elated for more.
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Originally Posted by GiveToMe
To work AMPs means wasting money and on time on someone who probably doesn't want to be a prostitute. It's beyond futile. Only the old gringos would dig such futility with a smile of humility on their faces. It's so bad.
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Lots of people love their jobs; lots of people don't want the job they have, but love the money. Same with sex workers everywhere. Including your exalted independents and agency girls. But the smiles and excitement I get at the end with their gift on the table are delicious to see, no matter what the attitude going in. I'm an old gringo, and humility means appreciation for all the good in our lives and those who provide it, not futility. It's so good, actually.
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Originally Posted by GiveToMe
Explain to me why it's hard to find a review describing a HE that later on became a FS situation. And don't say oh they are trying to keep it UTR. No such thing if you are already posting that HE had already happened. Houston spa johns like to brag you know especially when they are getting extras.
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Good point. Posting HE and FS reviews is probably putting the spas at risk. I would add that maybe should not even share places with strangers by PM.
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Originally Posted by GiveToMe
Explain to me why there are so many No's for no HE encounters? Don't tell me that those guys can't work it. I am sure there are seasoned spa guys who know how to grease girls who had encountered the same No girl with similar results.
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Maybe for some No means No and for others No means check it out, see if will work for you, but the reviewer does not want to get them in trouble. This is serious business - we have to respect the rules of the playground, wherever we are, and Houston's rules are strict.
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Originally Posted by GiveToMe
Explain to me why a spa guy should spend more and more on the same spa girl if he can get real sex for the same amount of money every time with the independent. UTR spa girl could get tired of servicing sex or word got around that she was doing that for one special spa guy that she is forced to stop giving that special service which made it a diminishing return on investment or how shall I say it, a fucking waste of time. Don't you fucking realize how fickle Houston women or Houston hookers are???
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Agreed - women everywhere are fickle, including indies. And so am I, life's an adventure. If the spa girl does not give me everything I want, then the spa gives me a different girl on the next visit. That girl gives me what I want, and if not, then on the third visit they either give me a girl who gives what I want or tell me when to come back and who to ask for. The flip side of the deal is I can not out those spas that do the best they can. Remember - I never ask for extras first, but wait for the girls to make the first move - always. Sometimes that first move is subtle. No matter what, I always get a great massage, or do not come back after even 1 visit. So I try a new spa for my first visit on a night, and if that does not work out, my second visit is to a spa that I have received what I want at previously. If a guy sees the same exact girl 2-3 times and still does not get what he wants then time to move on, to a different spa, not just girl, or else see her only for nfs massage.
I used to do independents and agencies but this would take so many calls or texts to even get an answer, then their screening then waiting for the girl to arrive, including flaking and waiting on rescheduling, I would end up late at night with no action, and find myself going to AMPs anyway. I rarely end up with no action now before I have to go home to go to bed to get ready for work next day and with my procedure the quality is better than ever. Maybe you could admit that because of our differing circumstances and experiences you know how to work indies and agencies while I don't, but I know how to work spas and you don't.
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Originally Posted by GiveToMe
BTW, you don't have to chase independents since they love to freely advertise their services so unlike those HE encounters that are fleeting as we speak.
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I have found very few independents advertising bbfs in Houston. Some will say they do and then bait and switch on arrival - I tried the approach of asking up front. And that is for girls with good reviews. When I was younger with no heart condition and no PrEP and the hat worked more consistently for me, my experience with independents was that most do not answer your call or text, and when they do, many will flake on you, even after screening, driving to the hotel or other incall they direct you to, and others delay or reschedule you. Some schedule in advance, but I only find out my time off work when it happens, not in advance (except vacations, when I travel to easier girls). Having a indy girl ready for me within an hour or even 2 was a rarity after 2004 in Houston. And I see this well documented in so many words here on ECCIE. Rescheduling for me ends up as no action for that night, and possibly not for another week, whenever I learn my next time off. Since I am polyamorous I see no sense going through all that to get in regular with an indie, although I may try agencies again as I improve my work schedule - you have made me think about that. Strip Clubs, sugar baby, porn filming, freelancers (street and bar/nightclub), civilian dating/apps, open marriage, and yes, agencies, independents, spas, all have their pros and cons, for now. With AMPs I am in the drivers seat - I go when I am ready and I know how much time it will take to get what I want. Not saying every visit is perfect, but I aways enjoy myself and get new talent too.
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And another thing, you are bullshit.
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Ah yes, everything I wrote is a fantasy, and none of it ever took place. Back at ya.