Socialism explained

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by Danielle Silver

Socialism explained in simple terms.

You have 50 cows and I have 3 cows.
They take all of the cows and issue us 1 glass of milk a day...

well written- Thank You.

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by themystic
Get back on topic. This is about socialism and how Trump is leading us down that path. We never had these problems under Obama. Sad that Trump only cares about himself. Our economy really took a big hit this month. I sure do miss Obama


SomeOneis not the OP, and topic is "Socialism" - a path toward which Trump is not leading the country.

someOne might be subverting the thrust of the thread toward a different concept of topic.

Why not post one's own thread about it. ???

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by themystic

Get back on topic. This is about socialism and how Trump is leading us down that path. We never had these problems under Obama. Sad that Trump only cares about himself. Our economy really took a big hit this month. I sure do miss Obama

Really....a weaponized IRS against conservatives and conservative thought. A weaponized Justice Department against GOP presidential candidates. A weaponized EPA against the energy industry. A weaponized media against anyone who dares to not comply. Obama and his tranny brought this country closer to socialism than did FDR and Roosevelt had three whole terms.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

the end goal of a socialist is communism

socialism requires an ever more oppressive state to control the people

with every work around ingenious, freedom loving people may develop, the socialist state must build police functions to quash such entrepreneurism

nazism has the same economic control features but has an added twist of the hierarchy of the races

idealistically communism claims a society where all are equal, while nazism would maintain a wealthy class

all the above subvert civil liberties, silences dissent, and limits the worth of the individual

communism has, as a foundation, the perfection of man, which has been proved false time and time again, and is why the richest person in venezuela is chavez' daughter

being wise and guided by providence, the founding fathers knew the fallibility of man, hence our constitution, with its bill of rights, and separation of powers and republican form of government with protections for the small states, a senate, and an indirect election of the president

our socialists attack every one of those protections for their evil ends

nazism is a subset of fascism


nazism/fascism and communism both arose from the philosophies of Karl Marx (marxism)

[rexdutchman]

Don’t think I’d live in China. But you know,, Me thinks TM, and YR , should move to China or at least Canada (LMAO)
Nazis /fascism and socialism / communism both arose from the philosophies of Karl Marx

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

http://blog.peerform.com/top-ten-mos...-in-the-world/

Yeah. None of those countries have fallen in the past seven years.

Don’t think I’d live in China. But you know...

China
In China the government manages and controls the economy. Many of the domestic companies are owned and run by the government. Recently, the Chinese economy has become more geared towards capitalism, but is still officially socialist. Life in China remains relatively less stressful and more relaxed than life in capitalist countries like America.

of course you wouldn't. its a police state with out sized proportions.
less stressfull???? hahahahahaha!!! They are watching you!!! bahahahahahaha!!!!!


the article is bullshit.

those countries listed are not pure socialist. they have a capitalist economy keeping Europe version of socialism a float. they are some ways a practicing a form of fascism. some light and medium touch. Spain used to have a pure fascist model which changed after Franco's death.


I should note that the China is much closer to the fascist model espoused by Mussolini & Hitler.
many of the companies are owned by the chinese govt and are run by commie party hacks. you have to be a member to run those companies.

[Redhot1960]

I like me some Danny, fuckers...

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

China
In China the government manages and controls the economy. Many of the domestic companies are owned and run by the government. Recently, the Chinese economy has become more geared towards capitalism, but is still officially socialist. Life in China remains relatively less stressful and more relaxed than life in capitalist countries like America.

of course you wouldn't. its a police state with out sized proportions.
less stressfull???? hahahahahaha!!! They are watching you!!! bahahahahahaha!!!!!


the article is bullshit.

those countries listed are not pure socialist. they have a capitalist economy keeping Europe version of socialism a float. they are some ways a practicing a form of fascism. some light and medium touch. Spain used to have a pure fascist model which changed after Franco's death.


I should note that the China is much closer to the fascist model espoused by Mussolini & Hitler.
many of the companies are owned by the chinese govt and are run by commie party hacks. you have to be a member to run those companies.

So which model do you believe the Democrats want?

You’ve already bought the bullshit.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

you have and have had nothing to add but flames

He lights a match and holds it close to his butthole every time he farts, doesn't he?

[lustylad]

How Sweden Overcame Socialism

It’s a model for the U.S., but the lesson isn’t what Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez thinks it is.

By Jesús Fernández-Villaverde and
Lee E. Ohanian
Jan. 9, 2019 7:06 p.m. ET


Nearly half of millennials say they prefer socialism to capitalism, but what do they mean? “My policies most closely resemble what we see in the U.K., in Norway, in Finland, in Sweden,” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez told “60 Minutes.” Yet Sweden’s experiment with socialist policies was disastrous, and its economic success in recent decades is a result of market-based reforms.

Until the mid-20th century, Sweden pursued highly competitive market-based policies. By 1970 Sweden achieved the world’s fourth-highest per capita income. Then increasingly radical Social Democratic governments raised taxes, spending and regulation much more than any other Western European country. Economic performance sputtered. By the early 1990s, Sweden’s per capita income ranking had dropped to 14th. Economic growth from 1970 to the early 1990s was roughly 1 percentage point lower than in Europe and 2 points lower than in the U.S.

Before its socialist experiment, Sweden had a smaller government sector than the U.S. By the early 1990s, government spending and transfer payments ballooned to 70% of gross domestic product, and debt had increased to 80% of GDP. Between 1966 and 1974, Sweden lost some 400,000 private jobs - proportionate to 16.7 million in today’s U.S.

In 1991 a market-oriented government came to power and undertook far-reaching reforms. Policy makers have privatized parts of the health-care system, introduced for-profit schools along with school vouchers, and reduced welfare benefits. Since 1997, government ministries that propose new spending plans have been required to find offsetting cuts in their budgets. As a result, public debt has declined from 80% of GDP in the early 1990s to 41%.

To increase incentives to work, Sweden reduced unemployment benefits and introduced an earned-income tax credit in 2007. The electricity and transportation industries were deregulated in the 1990s, and even the Swedish postal system was opened up to competition in 1993. The corporate tax rate was cut from its 2009 level of 28% to 22% today, and is scheduled to decline to 20.4% in 2021.

This policy mix has earned Sweden a Heritage Foundation ranking as the 15th freest economy in the world. The U.S. is 18th. And it’s paid off. Since 1995, Swedish economic growth has exceeded that of its European Union peers by about 1 point a year. Sweden is now richer than all of the major EU countries and is within 15% of U.S. per capita GDP. While Sweden still has a larger government than the U.S., its tax code is flatter. The progressivity of the U.S. tax code distorts incentives. These distortions would become even larger under the tax-increase proposals of democratic socialists like Ms. Ocasio-Cortez.

There is an example for the U.S. here, but the lesson isn’t what Ms. Ocasio-Cortez thinks. Command-and-control economic policies undermined Sweden’s prosperity, and they would do the same to America’s.

Mr. Fernández-Villaverde is a professor of economics at the University of Pennsylvania. Mr. Ohanian is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and professor of economics at UCLA.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

So which model do you believe the Democrats want?

I’ve already bought the bullshit.

really, that explains it!

[rexdutchman]

The Dims wits myth is OPM ( Other Peoples money ) Again great if your in charge or have a lot of money

[Yssup Rider]

Post another article without a link, LL? Big surprise.

But to your never ending whining about the frightening rise of socialism:

https://sweden.se/society/health-care-in-sweden/

https://steemit.com/news/@steemmaste...chool-students

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Post another article without a link, LL? Big surprise.

Newsflash for yssup - if you google the title, the link will always pop up. Is that amazing? And guess what - it's been that way ever since Google launched its search engine over 20 years ago!

Rather than just provide a link, I cut and paste the articles for people like you who are blocked by a paywall because you can't afford an online WSJ subscription. You're welcome.

[rexdutchman]

Socialism explained in simple terms, Venzuela