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Old 03-03-2019, 02:07 PM   #1
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Default Paul will oppose Trump's emergency. Senate now will pass the resolution

Now that Rand Paul's opposition is public and the measure will go to DOTUS to piss on, I wonder how many other Republican Senators will stand up for the fucking constitution and against Trump's power grab?

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Rand Paul to oppose Trump on national emergency
The Kentucky Republican's vote on a disapproval resolution would secure a Senate majority against the president's action on border security.

By BURGESS EVERETT 03/03/2019 12:07 PM EST Updated 03/03/2019 02:02 PM EST
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Sen. Rand Paul will vote to disapprove of President Donald Trump’s national emergency declaration to secure billions for his border wall, clinching a bipartisan majority in opposition of the president’s move.

“I can’t vote to give the president the power to spend money that hasn’t been appropriated by Congress,” Paul (R-Ky.) said at an event in Kentucky on Saturday, according to the Bowling Green Daily News. “We may want more money for border security, but Congress didn’t authorize it. If we take away those checks and balances, it’s a dangerous thing.”

Paul becomes the fourth Republican senator to pledge to vote for the disapproval resolution when it comes up for a vote in the Senate this month, meaning the resolution will pass if Trump doesn’t withdraw the emergency. The House passed the resolution on Tuesday, with 13 Republicans siding with Democrats. Trump has vowed to veto the resolution, which would be the first of his presidency. Both the House and Senate lack the votes to override the veto.

Paul disagreed with Vice President Mike Pence over the matter at a party lunch last week, Republican senators said. Though both sides deemed it cordial afterward, Paul made an explicit case that his party was risking its claim to the political high ground on issues of constitutional consistency, and Pence pushed back against Paul’s complaints.

Republican Sens. Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Thom Tillis of North Carolina also support the disapproval resolution.

On Sunday, other Republicans demonstrated the pointed disagreement within the party over whether to oppose Trump on a decision they would have blasted President Barack Obama for executing. Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) said on CNN that it was a “specious argument” for the GOP to argue that a future Democratic president could use Trump’s precedent to declare emergencies for liberal priorities.

“I don't think that the president doing this is going to end Western order,” Kennedy said. “The sun will come up the next morning. I do think he is probably rethinking the situation.”

Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.), who is aligned with the libertarian-leaning Paul on many issues, disagreed sharply on the same program.

“The president is violating our constitutional system,” Amash said. “And I don’t think Congress can grant legislative powers to the president by statute.”

Whether Trump will face even more defections in the Senate is not clear, but Paul’s decision to become the deciding vote could free other senators to voice their opposition. A significant bloc of Republicans dislike the national emergency, though some senators question whether that will translate to “yes” votes on the disapproval resolution.

One GOP senator who supports the national emergency declaration estimated that five to seven Republican would vote to disapprove, though others said the number is likely to be higher. Sens. Jerry Moran of Kansas, Ted Cruz of Texas, Marco Rubio of Florida, Roy Blunt of Missouri, Cory Gardner of Colorado, Lamar Alexander of Tennessee and Mike Lee of Utah are among those deliberating over how to vote.

On Thursday, Alexander went to the Senate floor to ask the president to consider rescinding the emergency declaration, which he and other Republicans have warned is likely to get bogged down in the courts. The retiring GOP senator said that he supports Trump’s executive actions to seize money from a Treasury Department forfeiture fund and from an anti-drug account at the Defense Department, which would give Trump upwards of $5 billion for his border wall when combined with nearly $1.4 billion sent to him by Congress in February.

“If the president can avoid that dangerous precedent using money that’s already authorized, I hope he will do that,” Alexander said on Thursday. “That will help the country, I think, by respecting the Constitution, and I think it will get the wall built faster.” He declined to say how he would vote on the disapproval resolution, deeming it hypothetical.

Yet if Trump stays his course, the Senate will proceed to a vote on the resolution before the mid-March recess because it can’t be bottled up by those who oppose it. Republicans are also still studying whether the disapproval resolution can be amended.
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Who's "Paul"?
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His neighbor kicked his punk ass.
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LOL!

I’m guessing that now the line has been crossed, others will join Paul. Maybe it’ll be Ringo.
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I’m guessing that now the line has been crossed, others will join Paul. Maybe it’ll be Ringo.
If there’s not enough votes to override Trumps veto who gives a fuck? George and John don’t.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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If there’s not enough votes to override Trumps veto who gives a fuck? George and John don’t.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I think they should override it. Republicans do not want to set this precedent. Let's say Trump gets 4 more years. A liberal will eventually be in the Whitehouse. What will they declare an emergency to gain access to the purse?

This is no longer about the wall. Build it. Dont build it. Do it the right way. Congress' control of the purse is a huge check to the executive branch.

Will the next president say healthcare is an emergency? Can't get congress to pass a bill? No problem.

Why even bother with Congress next time?
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Old 03-03-2019, 05:02 PM   #7
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I think they should override it. Republicans do not want to set this precedent. Let's say Trump gets 4 more years. A liberal will eventually be in the Whitehouse. What will they declare an emergency to gain access to the purse?

This is no longer about the wall. Build it. Dont build it. Do it the right way. Congress' control of the purse is a huge check to the executive branch.

Will the next president say healthcare is an emergency? Can't get congress to pass a bill? No problem.

Why even bother with Congress next time?
Congress passed the fucking law giving a POTUS to do this in 1976. Maybe they should pass a new law. Until then, suck it up.
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Congress passed the fucking law giving a POTUS to do this in 1976. Maybe they should pass a new law. Until then, suck it up.
That’s my feelings.

Also, the Republicans are always worried about setting “precedent”.

Bullshit. The dirtbag Democrats will do anything the can to get their way and further their agenda. Remember the Harry Reed days.

We had an election. The major plank in the President’s campaign platform was to build a Wall on the Southern Border to not only to help cub illegal immigration ito the US but help curtail the insane flow of illegal drugs and members of some of the most violent gangs in history.

And The Democrats, and some Republicans, do not want this to happen.

Why?
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they also don't want to admit that they are part of the problem regarding their lack of seriousness on border security.
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That’s my feelings.

Also, the Republicans are always worried about setting “precedent”.

Bullshit. The dirtbag Democrats will do anything the can to get their way and further their agenda. Remember the Harry Reed days.

We had an election. The major plank in the President’s campaign platform was to build a Wall on the Southern Border to not only to help cub illegal immigration ito the US but help curtail the insane flow of illegal drugs and members of some of the most violent gangs in history.

And The Democrats, and some Republicans, do not want this to happen.

Why?

He also said Mexico would pay for it, how has that worked out for you?


When all statistics point to the main problem being personnel, and checkpoints that is where the money should go, not his fucking promise.
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they also don't want to admit that they are part of the problem regarding their lack of seriousness on border security.
So here's the thing. Just because you oppose Trump's medieval vanity wall does not mean you are not serious about border security, no matter how many times the Orange Sphincter screams that you aren't.

Trump's whistling long and hard and over and over and over.

The doggies are barking on command.
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