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Old 01-12-2019, 09:45 PM   #91
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[SIZE="4"][COLOR="Black"]You have no appreciation for the kinfolk I have in the healthcare sector; hence, your prognostication is false. Like Milton Friedman stated: "It's just obvious you can't have free immigration and a welfare state."
Might be false on you but not on the country as a whole.

Bunch of old people and we have a lower birth rate...not a good combo
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Old 01-12-2019, 10:07 PM   #92
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You been reading to many Soldier of Fortune magazines IB
Wrong again. My information is garnered from individuals intimately familiar with what's happening on the border -- not Ivory Tower kooks and posturing dim-retards and lib-retard journalists.

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Why a border wall matters

By Andy Biggs - - Tuesday, January 8, 2019

I was recently expressing my conviction that America needs a border wall to a friend and colleague from across the political aisle. He was convinced that we don’t need a wall, but rather that we need “border security.” Everyone has a pretty good idea what a border wall might be, but we’re all a bit fuzzy on what “border security” looks like.

Last week, I spent several hours talking to ranchers and residents who live along the border. Each one forcefully argued in favor of a border wall.

On one of my trips to the border, I asked my escorts, a couple of border patrol agents, if they thought we needed a border wall. They emphasized to me their support for a wall. I mentioned using more drones, manned aerial vehicles, cameras and ground sensors. They informed me, in no uncertain terms, that the Border Patrol has plenty of technology — lots of drones, cameras, sensors, etc. — and that a wall is necessary if we really want “border security.”

Remember, President Trump didn’t run on “border security.” He ran on building a wall and enforcing our laws.

Drones, cameras, sensors and other technology do not provide an impediment to illegal entry into the United States. Where we have these tools available, our agents can often spot the illegal crossers but do little about interdicting them. On the other hand, one must plan on how to cope with the physical barricade of a wall.

In many spots, we already have “Normandy Barricades” that have virtually no effect on those crossing illegally into our country. But where there are fences we see reductions of illegal entries. For instance, at a House Judiciary Committee Hearing in December 2018, Homeland Security Secretary Kirsten Nielsen testified that, after the wall was built at the San Diego Port of Entry, illegal border crossings declined by almost 90 percent. The same impact was seen in Yuma, El Paso and South Texas.

Those who claim that walls don’t work are denying the evidence.

There is another important advantage to border enforcement that comes with a wall. The wall acts as a traffic conductor, directing illegal border crossers to the places that our agents want to stop and detain them. In short, we can channel the traffic to our advantage. Thus, our agents can more safely engage with those who are illegally entering America.
Imagine a city about the size of Phoenix, America’s fifth-largest city, illegally crossing our southern border every year. By some estimates, that’s what we are facing and trying to bring under control.

No one makes the argument that a border wall will be the panacea to this vexing crisis, but for those who look with open eyes, it is a real solution. In fact, at one time, many of those now holding up funding and construction of a wall once argued in favor of the wall.

Arizona ranchers and border dwellers, border patrol agents, and the president of the United States all understand that if we can slow down the flow of **** and human traffickers with a wall, channel as many of the illegal crossings to locations that are favorable to our agents, we have a chance to get control of our border. And, control of our border will deter many others from risking their lives to illegally enter our sovereign nation.

• Andy Biggs is a Republican U.S. representative from Arizona.

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Might be false on you but not on the country as a whole.

Bunch of old people and we have a lower birth rate...not a good combo
Like I said, I have family in the healthcare industry, and they sure as hell don't need their salaries lowered by a surfeit of illegals. Thanks for proving one of my points.
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Wrong again. My information is garnered from individuals intimately familiar with what's happening on the border -- not Ivory Tower kooks and posturing dim-retards and lib-retard journalists.




Like I said, I have family in the healthcare industry, and they sure as hell don't need their salaries lowered by a surfeit of illegals. Thanks for proving one of my points.
Did you ever consider the timing of this urgency IB. Trump has 2 years unimpeded. Then when he saw he was getting his ass kicked and losing the house we had a crisis. It’s just not believable. He had time for the rich to profit with his tax cuts but not protect the border. Bull Shit political
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Old 01-12-2019, 10:19 PM   #94
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Did you ever consider the timing of this urgency IB. Trump has 2 years unimpeded. Then when he saw he was getting his ass kicked and losing the house we had a crisis. It’s just not believable. He had time for the rich to profit with his tax cuts but not protect the border. Bull Shit political
It seems you have a problem with facts and a short memory to boot, but this is only Trump's second budget ... and he damn well told Congress last time he wouldn't sign another one like the first one.
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:14 AM   #95
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Like I said, I have family in the healthcare industry, and they sure as hell don't need their salaries lowered by a surfeit of illegals. Thanks for proving one of my points.
You switch points so often....the point was the majority of old white men will not be able to afford care from your relatives in the future.

They'll be hiring Mexicans to care for them...I see that happening all the time with home care.

You may need to read up on Adam Smith...
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Old 01-13-2019, 12:51 PM   #96
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You switch points so often....the point was the majority of old white men will not be able to afford care from your relatives in the future.

They'll be hiring Mexicans to care for them...I see that happening all the time with home care.

You may need to read up on Adam Smith...

You were bragging about how Mexican illegals will be taking American jobs. Stopping that is the purpose behind a wall.
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Old 01-13-2019, 01:43 PM   #97
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That's good to know Jackie. All this time I thought we had a black President when the whole time Obama was really white. That's why he viewed the darker blacks as a sub class. Anyone who hangs around blacks knows that

first reference by anyone who admits that blacks can be bigoted.
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