Stupid border wall

[Old-T]

Basic problems with "The Wall"

It is a solution to a problem that hasn't been thought out. I see zero agreement on the real questions:
--Who many people should immigrate to the US?
--How will the people be chosen who are allowed in?
--What should the process be?
--What should the expectations be for the people who are allowed in?

Until those are answered how the hell do you know whether a wall is good, bad, or indifferent? You don't. The answers to those questions are hard and don't fit nice neat slogans, tweets, or 10 second political sound bites--so neither side wants to talk about them.

But Trump (and his brain dead zombies) KNOW the answer to a problem they have not defined (actually I think Trump has defined it in his mind, he just hasn't spoken it aloud: "ZERO immigration except for rich people who buy their way in".)


If the Dems wanted to actually move the country and the discussion forward they would be pushing for the discussion to happen. But they don't--too many of the LWWs also have their answer: "Anyone who shows up should get in, no limits".


Both are seriously wrong, but the Wackos are in charge for now, and they actually do not care about what is right--just what gets more zombies to vote for them.

[themystic]

Originally Posted by tonyvicksa

"Texas construction sites are a minimum of 80% undocumented workers hired by "MAGA" mentality white people"

Sounds like we need a wall...

To keep them here maybe

[bamscram]

Latest report said only one in six vehicles were checked, we need more resources to check all of them, and to process people asking for asylum
.If Amazon can deliver a package to your doorstep with a drone, then drug cartels can fly drugs over any fucking wall fence or barricade Trump can build

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Old-T

Basic problems with "The Wall"

It is a solution to a problem that hasn't been thought out. I see zero agreement on the real questions:
--Who many people should immigrate to the US?
--How will the people be chosen who are allowed in?
--What should the process be?
--What should the expectations be for the people who are allowed in?

Until those are answered how the hell do you know whether a wall is good, bad, or indifferent? You don't. The answers to those questions are hard and don't fit nice neat slogans, tweets, or 10 second political sound bites--so neither side wants to talk about them.

But Trump (and his brain dead zombies) KNOW the answer to a problem they have not defined (actually I think Trump has defined it in his mind, he just hasn't spoken it aloud: "ZERO immigration except for rich people who buy their way in".)


If the Dems wanted to actually move the country and the discussion forward they would be pushing for the discussion to happen. But they don't--too many of the LWWs also have their answer: "Anyone who shows up should get in, no limits".


Both are seriously wrong, but the Wackos are in charge for now, and they actually do not care about what is right--just what gets more zombies to vote for them.

What about eliminating from consideration any and all whose first action involves entering this country in open violation of U.S. statutes. That would turn off the namby-pandy magnet enabling-libretards permit by doing nothing.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Old-T

Basic problems with "The Wall"

It is a solution to a problem that hasn't been thought out. I see zero agreement on the real questions:
--Who many people should immigrate to the US?
--How will the people be chosen who are allowed in?
--What should the process be?
--What should the expectations be for the people who are allowed in?

Until those are answered how the hell do you know whether a wall is good, bad, or indifferent? You don't. The answers to those questions are hard and don't fit nice neat slogans, tweets, or 10 second political sound bites--so neither side wants to talk about them.

But Trump (and his brain dead zombies) KNOW the answer to a problem they have not defined (actually I think Trump has defined it in his mind, he just hasn't spoken it aloud: "ZERO immigration except for rich people who buy their way in".)


If the Dems wanted to actually move the country and the discussion forward they would be pushing for the discussion to happen. But they don't--too many of the LWWs also have their answer: "Anyone who shows up should get in, no limits".


Both are seriously wrong, but the Wackos are in charge for now, and they actually do not care about what is right--just what gets more zombies to vote for them.

Yep...you nailed it Old-T.

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by Old-T

Basic problems with "The Wall"

It is a solution to a problem that hasn't been thought out. I see zero agreement on the real questions:
--Who many people should immigrate to the US?
--How will the people be chosen who are allowed in?
--What should the process be?
--What should the expectations be for the people who are allowed in?

Until those are answered how the hell do you know whether a wall is good, bad, or indifferent? You don't. The answers to those questions are hard and don't fit nice neat slogans, tweets, or 10 second political sound bites--so neither side wants to talk about them.

But Trump (and his brain dead zombies) KNOW the answer to a problem they have not defined (actually I think Trump has defined it in his mind, he just hasn't spoken it aloud: "ZERO immigration except for rich people who buy their way in".)


If the Dems wanted to actually move the country and the discussion forward they would be pushing for the discussion to happen. But they don't--too many of the LWWs also have their answer: "Anyone who shows up should get in, no limits".


Both are seriously wrong, but the Wackos are in charge for now, and they actually do not care about what is right--just what gets more zombies to vote for them.

The most well thought - out and cogent analysis of the underlying border issues in some time..
Thank You