Judge rules Odumbocare unconstitutional

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by themystic

Why would you not want Americans to have Healthcare?. I get the whole argument about pulling ones own weight, people free loading etc. But for people in this country to not have Healthcare is absurd. I'm a cancer survivor that watched people die because they didn't have the money. That is a fact. If I wouldn't have the money and Insurance I would be dead

Pay your own way, or be done with it. Survival of the fittest: Darwinian science. Dim-retards claim that they are all about "science".

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Pay your own way, or be done with it. Survival of the fittest: Darwinian science. Dim-retards claim that they are all about "science".

That pretty much sums up the difference between a liberal and a conservative. Liberals care about others in addition to themselves. Conservatives care only about #1 -- themselves. I realize those statements are far from 100% accurate but they are more true than untrue.

[oeb11]

SRXXX - who are you to define what other people care about?
Speak for yourself - fine- But You cannot read other people's minds or intentions


Better
Liberals- DPST's - want equal outcome for all people - except the Socialist leaders at the top. See Venezuela for object lesson.

Conservatives - want equal opportunity for all people.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

That pretty much sums up the difference between a liberal and a conservative. Liberals care about others in addition to themselves. Conservatives care only about #1 -- themselves. I realize those statements are far from 100% accurate but they are more true than untrue.

The difference between conservatives and lib-retards is that conservatives work for what they get while lib-retards want and expect it to be handed to them at someone else's expense.

[oeb11]

DPST Plantation overseers give the handouts in return for votes of "their Minorities"
A shame those folks are so blinded by the "Handout Servitude" that they prefer being in DPST bondage.

[bamscram]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

The difference between conservatives and lib-retards is that conservatives work for what they get while lib-retards want and expect it to be handed to them at someone else's expense.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by bamscram

Odumbocare is laughable, especially considering how Pelosi collected more than $2.3 million total in campaign contributions from pharmaceutical companies since the 2007-08 election cycle.

[rexdutchman]

Odumboo care = Liberals only think in the minute (money for them/ and friends ) Conservatives think long run like how to pay for a system that doesn't work.

[oeb11]

The ACA did force the coverage of patients with pre-existing conditions. A needed coverage.

Also destroyed the free market competition of insurance carriers - raised the costs and made physician continuity of care impossible in many cases.

less expensive and you can keep your doctor.
And can only apply for insurance for a short period once or twice a year.

Dumb!

[FrankZappa]

Originally Posted by oeb11

The ACA did force the coverage of patients with pre-existing conditions. A needed coverage.

Also destroyed the free market competition of insurance carriers - raised the costs and made physician continuity of care impossible in many cases.

less expensive and you can keep your doctor.
And can only apply for insurance for a short period once or twice a year.

Dumb!

There was no free market in the insurance industry. There are about 4 companies that sell insurance in Texas and they are CIGNA, BCBS, AETNA, United Healthcare. They had the choice to drop you if you were sick or had a pre existing condition. I buy insurance for my company every year. I had a guy that had brain surgery and they raised everyones healthcare cost about 75% for a small group. Insurance is a racket as well as the drug companies and hospitals. Pre Obama Care the insurance rates went up drastically every year and they could cancel your policy for any reason and put you into bankruptcy.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

The difference between conservatives and lib-retards is that conservatives work for what they get while lib-retards want and expect it to be handed to them at someone else's expense.

Quite a stereotype. I worked hard for many decades. I never received anything from the government that I did not deserve. Most "lib-retards" are just like me. Yes, many people who consider themselves to be on the liberal side of politics are poor and more often rely on government programs -- food stamps, welfare, unemployment -- to assist them. I, and hopefully you, have been lucky in my life to have never been in a situation where I needed government assistance. Some of my family members have been. One was laid off and relied on government assistance for her and her teenage son. Another just got furloughed from her federal job and I don't know how that person will meet her debts. Yes, you and I are paying for benefits for such "lib-retards" until they can get back on their feet.

The overwhelming majority of people on government assistance do not want to be in that condition. Unfortunately a very few scam the system.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by oeb11

SRXXX - who are you to define what other people care about?
Speak for yourself - fine- But You cannot read other people's minds or intentions


Better
Liberals- DPST's - want equal outcome for all people - except the Socialist leaders at the top. See Venezuela for object lesson.

Conservatives - want equal opportunity for all people.

Let's just say I disagree. Conservatives want what is best for them. Look at the wonderful tax reform package. Look at Trumpcare as opposed to Obamacare. Look at Trump's proposed immigration policies.

I am NOT a socialist. I am very much a capitalist so that destroys your statement that liberals want equal outcome for all people. I certainly wish that everyone was as financially sound as I am and I am more than happy to give some of my income to those less fortunate, but there is a point at which I say enough is enough. Right now I look at the taxes I pay and the benefits I receive and I am content. But never think that I support Medicare for all or free college education for all at my expense.

[FrankZappa]

Most of the people that call Democrats libtards are the ones that will rely on Social Security and Medicare to fun their retirement. It is hypocritical the Republicans want to shut down these programs as well. This is the Fox News and Breitbart, Townhall, ideology, the next cut will be to take away your social security and medicare.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Quite a stereotype. I worked hard for many decades. I never received anything from the government that I did not deserve. Most "lib-retards" are just like me. Yes, many people who consider themselves to be on the liberal side of politics are poor and more often rely on government programs -- food stamps, welfare, unemployment -- to assist them. I, and hopefully you, have been lucky in my life to have never been in a situation where I needed government assistance. Some of my family members have been. One was laid off and relied on government assistance for her and her teenage son. Another just got furloughed from her federal job and I don't know how that person will meet her debts. Yes, you and I are paying for benefits for such "lib-retards" until they can get back on their feet.

The overwhelming majority of people on government assistance do not want to be in that condition. Unfortunately a very few scam the system.

Government programs, like Odumbocare, are always ripe for fraud -- because they're using other people's money and don't really give a fuck.

Twenty-Four Charged in Arkansas as Part of Largest Nationwide Health Care Fraud Enforcement Action in Department of Justice History

Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Tom Price, M.D., announced today the largest ever health care fraud enforcement action by the Medicare Fraud Strike Force, involving 412 charged defendants across 41 federal districts—including the Eastern District of Arkansas. Among the defendants were 115 doctors, nurses and other licensed medical professionals, all alleged to have participated in health care fraud schemes involving approximately $1.3 billion in false billings.

(DOJ)

Florida food stamp fraud arrests: 200 people accused in years-long investigation

The task force first investigated Jacksonville businesses suspected of taking in large sums of SNAP/EBT benefits in exchange for cash at a rate of 50 cents on the dollar.

For example, a SNAP recipient would swipe their card for $500 and receive $250 in cash from the business.

(Atlanta Journal Constitution)

Originally Posted by FrankZappa

Most of the people that call Democrats libtards are the ones that will rely on Social Security and Medicare to fun their retirement. It is hypocritical the Republicans want to shut down these programs as well. This is the Fox News and Breitbart, Townhall, ideology, the next cut will be to take away your social security and medicare.

And MSNBC's Wretching Madcow told you this is what you should believe? FYI, Madcow is a Minister of Misinformation.

[eccielover]

Originally Posted by FrankZappa

the next cut will be to take away your social security and medicare.

Blatant lies and fear mongering by the left. And then they have the nerve to call conservatives liars. Such hypocrites..