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Old 12-07-2018, 10:24 AM   #16
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Good point. Exactly WHERE is the obstruction??

1. When a sitting president suggests that a case be dropped.

2. When the sitting president dangles pardons in front of people under indictment, praising them for not cooperating. "Keep your mouth shut and I'll pardon you."

3. When a sitting president recommends stiff sentences for people who do cooperate. "YOU KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, PARDON,TALK AND I'LL SEE YOU RECEIVE THE MAX SENTENCE POSSIBLE. "
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Old 12-07-2018, 10:54 AM   #17
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1. When a sitting president suggests that a case be dropped.

2. When the sitting president dangles pardons in front of people under indictment, praising them for not cooperating. "Keep your mouth shut and I'll pardon you."

3. When a sitting president recommends stiff sentences for people who do cooperate. "YOU KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, PARDON,TALK AND I'LL SEE YOU RECEIVE THE MAX SENTENCE POSSIBLE. "
They can hear you grean.
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Old 12-07-2018, 10:55 AM   #18
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Lawyer up, everyone. According to mystic we're all guilty of aiding and abetting a soon to be convicted president (and family, o' course.....lock 'em all up, right?)

The bigger crime (than supporting and voting for DJT) is that we were all blind as bats and we turned away from the living embodiment of the Truth, the Light, the Way....the chosen one, HilLIARY Rod Ham Clinton, would have paved a future for a greater America than any of us could've dreamed. For that crime alone all of us Trump-supporters should never see the light of day again.

Lock US all up!

and your going to Hell
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:31 AM   #19
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There isn't a long game, actually. Unless Mueller moves to indict Trump, nothing will come of Mueller's report.

Trump has very openly and publicly obstructed justice but no one in congress has lifted a finger. Do you think that once the report is submitted members of the Republican controlled Senate will suddenly say, "Holy shit! He did obstruct justice, after all?"

He's doing it on Twitter for Christ's sake!

Everyone sees it.

No one gives a shit.

It's a quite sad place in US history we find ourselves watching.
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:32 PM   #20
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Yup BAHAAAA, 2 years and nothing
Now the NYT is saying dumper hired a illegal maid ( yeah no shit 2 years later ) just more of the same.
Like a episode of " Ray Donovin "
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:34 PM   #21
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Two of the illegal maids were interviewed about working at his golf course.
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Old 12-07-2018, 02:06 PM   #22
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1. When a sitting president suggests that a case be dropped.

2. When the sitting president dangles pardons in front of people under indictment, praising them for not cooperating. "Keep your mouth shut and I'll pardon you."

3. When a sitting president recommends stiff sentences for people who do cooperate. "YOU KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, PARDON,TALK AND I'LL SEE YOU RECEIVE THE MAX SENTENCE POSSIBLE. "

How is someone suggesting a case be dropped obstruction? NOW if he actually acted to halt the investigation, that i could see as potentially being obstruction..
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Old 12-07-2018, 02:27 PM   #23
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How is someone suggesting a case be dropped obstruction? NOW if he actually acted to halt the investigation, that i could see as potentially being obstruction..

He did act...
When your boss "suggests" you do something, if you don't take his suggestion, you could be fired....

And look what happened. My guess is Comey would still be director had he listened to Trump. All though, Comey did not allow Trump to, it certainly doesn't mean Trump didn't attempt to obstruct justice.
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Old 12-07-2018, 02:30 PM   #24
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Further, Mueller has proven Comey was right to not drop the case because the general has since pleaded guilty.
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Old 12-07-2018, 04:51 PM   #25
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Further, Mueller has proven Comey was right to not drop the case because the general has since pleaded guilty.
How do you reconcile that thought with the knowledge that Comey testified under oath that his people at the FBI didn't believe that Flynn did lie.

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Old 12-07-2018, 05:12 PM   #26
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There isn't a long game, actually. Unless Mueller moves to indict Trump, nothing will come of Mueller's report.

Trump has very openly and publicly obstructed justice but no one in congress has lifted a finger. Do you think that once the report is submitted members of the Republican controlled Senate will suddenly say, "Holy shit! He did obstruct justice, after all?"

He's doing it on Twitter for Christ's sake!

Everyone sees it.

No one gives a shit.

It's a quite sad place in US history we find ourselves watching.
You are right grean. It’s really sad that the Rebulicans have allowed this shit. Nothing is going to happen to Trump no matter what the Report says. The new Republican is very Joe Paterno like. They will be judged at a later date. They are in denial. And the Evangelical wing and it’s Christian faction is going to hell if they believe in the Bible. Good news for them is they don’t really believe it any way
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Old 12-07-2018, 05:28 PM   #27
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How do you reconcile that thought with the knowledge that Comey testified under oath that his people at the FBI didn't believe that Flynn did lie.


https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us...solutely-works
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Old 12-07-2018, 05:45 PM   #28
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I love the muller trump show. It's going to get even more entertaining next year. Even Putin can't help him with a house that don't kiss his orange how great tho our azz
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Old 12-08-2018, 12:31 AM   #29
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He did act...
When your boss "suggests" you do something, if you don't take his suggestion, you could be fired....

And look what happened. My guess is Comey would still be director had he listened to Trump. All though, Comey did not allow Trump to, it certainly doesn't mean Trump didn't attempt to obstruct justice.

Comey was fired for other stuff, NOT for his 'not dropping the mueller probe'..
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Old 12-08-2018, 09:44 AM   #30
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That's not what trump said in national network interview.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.58cb9df7de3d

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Comey was fired for other stuff, NOT for his 'not dropping the mueller probe'..
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