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Old 03-04-2018, 05:35 PM   #1
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South Africa Votes to Confiscate White-Owned Farms, 'Slaughter of Whites' Not Yet

White farmers in South Africa will have their property seized under a new law backed by Julius Malema, the revolutionary socialist leader of the country's opposition party who once chillingly declared he was "not calling for the slaughter of white people — at least for now."

On Tuesday, the National Assembly of South Africa voted 241-83 in favor amending the Constitution to allow for the expropriation of land without compensation.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/so...ontent=2197167

I think every liberal in America should move to South Africa, buy land, and donate it to the government so they can signal how virtuous and non racist it is to take title of land without compensation and from those who bought it, solely because of the immutable trait of skin color.

I would be interested to know how President Obama feels about this issue.
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Old 03-04-2018, 10:18 PM   #2
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odummer is probably pissed that he didn't do it when he was in office and had a dumbascrap majority in both Houses of Congress.
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Old 03-05-2018, 11:37 AM   #3
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We should boycott South Africa....of course if the white owner did not pay for the land or stole it from SA then I see no problem with SA taking it back. If an owner paid for land, you should not just be able to take it.
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Old 03-05-2018, 02:28 PM   #5
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We should boycott South Africa....of course if the white owner did not pay for the land or stole it from SA then I see no problem with SA taking it back. If an owner paid for land, you should not just be able to take it.
I agree - hopefully we will boycott and they will refrain from stealing the land.
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Old 03-05-2018, 02:47 PM   #6
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South Africa Votes to Confiscate White-Owned Farms, 'Slaughter of Whites' Not Yet

White farmers in South Africa will have their property seized under a new law backed by Julius Malema, the revolutionary socialist leader of the country's opposition party who once chillingly declared he was "not calling for the slaughter of white people — at least for now."

On Tuesday, the National Assembly of South Africa voted 241-83 in favor amending the Constitution to allow for the expropriation of land without compensation.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/so...ontent=2197167

I think every liberal in America should move to South Africa, buy land, and donate it to the government so they can signal how virtuous and non racist it is to take title of land without compensation and from those who bought it, solely because of the immutable trait of skin color.

I would be interested to know how President Obama feels about this issue.
Obama's all for it imo. Anything to smack down whitey..
And what's the bet all the libtards out there, celebrate this as 'bringing diversity' back to south africa...

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I agree - hopefully we will boycott and they will refrain from stealing the land.
Other than international Tourism, what else does south africa produce for us to boycott though?
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Old 03-05-2018, 04:47 PM   #7
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Old 03-05-2018, 04:59 PM   #8
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So salt the earth, burn it down and move on.
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Old 03-05-2018, 05:05 PM   #9
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Same thing happened in Rhodesia right after they changed to Zimbabwe was
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Old 03-05-2018, 10:11 PM   #10
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We should boycott South Africa....of course if the white owner did not pay for the land or stole it from SA then I see no problem with SA taking it back. If an owner paid for land, you should not just be able to take it.
the boers settled on land that was uninhabited. no black tribe laid any claim to it. so they (Boers) had every right to it.

this is just pure jealousy on the part of blacks whose ancestors didn't settle there.
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Old 03-06-2018, 07:48 PM   #12
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We should boycott South Africa....of course if the white owner did not pay for the land or stole it from SA then I see no problem with SA taking it back. If an owner paid for land, you should not just be able to take it.
But the Boers have been there for 200+ years, so no one alive today stole land from native tribesmen.

I'm also not sure how much farming was being done by the native African to begin with. I think they were mostly nomadic hunters, not unlike American Indians in the Great Plains.

Farm land ownership (as opposed to other types of land) by whites was at 85% at the end of apartheid and has since fallen to 72%.

But that isn't fast enough for the socialist opposition party. So, this is just a population purge.

The white farmers - who aren't rich to begin with - will have no assets and no reason to stay in SA. So they will emigrate back to Europe, probably Holland. Maybe the US or South America.

This will leave SA with no skilled farmers. They are going to repeat the same mistake as Rhodesia. The government hacks who are given the land will try to get migrant black farmers to farm it while the politically connected try to milk them for $$$. The end result will be as it was/is in Rhodesia - agricultural collapse and a nation that use to feed itself being forced to import food.

Rhodesia tried to lure white farmers back by promising not to seize the land again in the future. Needless to say, it isn't working.

Farming is often a hand-me down profession between family generations. You are either raised in farming and it is in your blood or you are not. It is very difficult and therefore rare for someone who lives in the city to chuck it all and just take up farming.

That's why this won't work.
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Old 03-06-2018, 07:57 PM   #13
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But the Boers have been there for 200+ years, so no one alive today stole land from native tribesmen.

I'm also not sure how much farming was being done by the native African to begin with. I think they were mostly nomadic hunters, not unlike American Indians in the Great Plains.

Farm land ownership (as opposed to other types of land) by whites was at 85% at the end of apartheid and has since fallen to 72%.

But that isn't fast enough for the socialist opposition party. So, this is just a population purge.

The white farmers - who aren't rich to begin with - will have no assets and no reason to stay in SA. So they will emigrate back to Europe, probably Holland. Maybe the US or South America.

This will leave SA with no skilled farmers. They are going to repeat the same mistake as Rhodesia. The government hacks who are given the land will try to get migrant black farmers to farm it while the politically connected try to milk them for $$$. The end result will be as it was/is in Rhodesia - agricultural collapse and a nation that use to feed itself being forced to import food.

Rhodesia tried to lure white farmers back by promising not to seize the land again in the future. Needless to say, it isn't working.

Farming is often a hand-me down profession between family generations. You are either raised in farming and it is in your blood or you are not. It is very difficult and therefore rare for someone who lives in the city to chuck it all and just take up farming.

That's why this won't work.
Well said. I agree
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Old 03-06-2018, 10:53 PM   #14
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The white farmers - who aren't rich to begin with - will have no assets and no reason to stay in SA. So they will emigrate back to Europe, probably Holland. Maybe the US or South America.
With how SA is treating them, i sure as hell would up and leave..

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This will leave SA with no skilled farmers. They are going to repeat the same mistake as Rhodesia. The government hacks who are given the land will try to get migrant black farmers to farm it while the politically connected try to milk them for $$$. The end result will be as it was/is in Rhodesia - agricultural collapse and a nation that use to feed itself being forced to import food.

Rhodesia tried to lure white farmers back by promising not to seize the land again in the future. Needless to say, it isn't working.

Farming is often a hand-me down profession between family generations. You are either raised in farming and it is in your blood or you are not. It is very difficult and therefore rare for someone who lives in the city to chuck it all and just take up farming.

That's why this won't work.
And IMO if that does happen, i will have NO sympathy for them.
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Where have I heard this before? https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2299740

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