The Senate tax bill eliminates the ACA individual mandate.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

The screw up was made by the health insurance companies, not the government. Grandfathered plans were to be continued, not cancelled. The health insurance companies are at fault IBIdiot.

If Obamacare had nothing to do with it, then why did the insurance companies kill the grandfathered plans?

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

Who do you think the actuaries are giving their information to? LOL.

the people who pay them. got a prob with dat u socialist idiot?

Which department is filing the premium rate change with Commissioner of Insurance for approval? You think the insurance company just sets the premium price to whatever they feel like?

Deflect much? LOL

as usual no answer. who's deflecting here ???

You don't know as much about insurance companies as you think you do.

Have you ever worked for one?

my uncle owns an insurance agency. specializes in workman's comp for small/medium businesses and pension fund mgmt. he knows insurance. u don't.

The underwriting department looks at claim history, that is the number one factor to determine just how much risk they will take in the next year. Even LL will tell you that. He even posted it.

u mean the actuaries, right??? idiot.

oh .. what was the question again ???

WHY DIDN'T ACA MEET IT'S PROJECTED NUMBERS? NOT EVEN CLOSE!!

why??

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

u mean the actuaries, right??? idiot.

oh .. what was the question again ???

WHY DIDN'T ACA MEET IT'S PROJECTED NUMBERS? NOT EVEN CLOSE!!

why??

Ask your uncle if he has ever heard of a claim data base. An insurance agency is not as big as a State Farm, All State or Nationwide. Actuaries give statistics to the Underwriting department. The Underwriting department will determine how much total risk there is in the risk pool and ultimately the premium price that is filed with the state commissioner of insurance. Enough with this.

Your question is why did the CBO project in 2010 that 23 million people would purchase a policy at HealthCare.Gov in 2017 and they only got 12 million people to sign up.

The answer is more people got the expanded medicaid than the CBO projected in 2010. If you add 10 million for the expanded medicaid to the 12 million from the (HealthCare.Gov) that would give you 22 million which is close to what the CBO had projected for 2017. See the 2010 projections from the CBO in Table 4 below.

You cannot get a private health insurance plan at HealthCare.Gov if your income is Family of 4 and < $24,000. In this case you get the Expanded Medicaid.

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...dreconprop.pdf

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

FIFY IBidiot.

Odumbo and your ilk fucked it up for everybody, you socialist dildo. Your pathetic excuses for the evil socialist program Odumbocare in no manner assuage the great social injustice Odumbocare has visited on honest American citizens who were paying their own way until they lost their health insurance.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Odumbo and your ilk fucked it up for everybody, you socilist dildo. Your pathetic excuses for the evil socialist program Odumbocare in no manner assuage the great social injustice Odumbocare has visited on honest American citizens who were paying their own way until they lost their health insurance.

He obviously doesn't give two shits about working class AMERICANS. All he is concerned about are those who do not work, although they can, and who are living off the government TIT and gaming the system. He's drunk from the "snake oil" sold by HIS PRESIDENT and embraced by HillariousNoMore and ignores (or is ignorant) of the realities in the work place ....

1. firings
2. reduced hours
3. 2nd jobs required to make ends meet
4. spouses entering the work force to pay for health care!
5. increased health care premiums without the government TIT!

While the Obaminable Administration was counting 2 20-hour part time jobs as TWO JOBS for the "wonderful" job record ... and counting "contract" workers as being "employed" even though their hours were cut from 40+ to 30 ("officially")!

While they gave "special treatment" to Federal employees and other union workers!

[Yssup Rider]

Count the LIES in the post above...

[LexusLover]

AssUp, has your grant/subsidy (or assistance) been cut off yet?

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

AssUp, has your grant/subsidy (or assistance) been cut off yet?

a better question would be... "has his dick been cut off yet?

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

He obviously doesn't give two shits about working class AMERICANS. All he is concerned about are those who do not work, although they can, and who are living off the government TIT and gaming the system.

1. You must be employed to get a health insurance plan at HealthCare.Gov and your income must be Family of 4 > $24,000

2. The people who are getting a policy at HealthCare.Gov are working class AMERICANS. They have jobs, they pay taxes, they pay rent or a mortgage. The only difference is they had a pre-existing condition and could not get health insurance in the individual market before the ACA law was passed.

3. Just more lies by you LL, who said for 5 years the the insurance being sold at HealthCare.Gov "was not real insurance".

4. The health insurance being sold at HealthCare.Gov is real insurance. Your Obamacare policy is good at big hospitals like Childrens Hospital in Houston a top 5 hospital in the state of Texas.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

If Obamacare had nothing to do with it, then why did the insurance companies kill the grandfathered plans?

The reasons were administrative. Some health insurance companies did not want to maintain two types of policies in their I/T systems. The government put it in writing, the grandfathered plans were to be continued as if the policy holder wanted to keep his/her plan.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

The reasons were administrative. Some health insurance companies did not want to maintain two types of policies in their I/T systems. The government put it in writing, the grandfathered plans were to be continued as if the policy holder wanted to keep his/her plan.

are u gonna stick with that lame excuse? because it is lame.

IT couldn't handle it?? RIGHT!!

ok. if that's your story ...





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