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Originally Posted by WTF
Yet many on the right want to make it harder for legal citizen to vote because of a few illegal votes?
Where is your consistency?
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Why does it have to be consistent? How many of these nutso mass shooters have we had? what 40, 50 in the past 10 years?
Compare that to THOUSANDS OF illegal votes going on..
ONE seriously needs to get curtailed.
Especially since voting was NOT a guaranteed right in the Bill of Rights, and only came into play when iirc the 15th amendment first ratified the right to vote can't be abridged based on race/sex etc..
Then you take into account what DO you need to do to register to vote..
Show up, fill some forms out, and BAM. NO NEED To provide proof of citizenship in some states. No verification check on you are who you say you are.
COMPARE THAT To the hassles you have to jump through to get a gun.
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
I for one would be perfectly content having voters meet exactly the same requirements to vote that gun buyers presently have to meet when buying a weapon ... but an ID without a background check would suffice.
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Exactly Hankering. There's a # of hoops to jump through for gun ownership. Not so for voting.
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Originally Posted by WTF
How about restrictions on neither. You vote illegally and get caught , you go to jail. You buy a gun and illegally shoot someone, you go to jail.
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Gee, we've see case after case of people admitting ON NATL tv, voting multiple times (ILLEGALLY) yet didn't get jack for punishment.
And you expect them to start getting punished now?
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Originally Posted by gfejunkie
I am hearing that it was an instance of "How do you stop a bad guy with a gun? A good guy with a gun!"
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Yup. Two good guys with guns stopped this shitbag killing more.. Had they been inside, instead of across the street in their homes, and had been able to respond Sooner, i don't htink we would have so many dead/wounded..
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
There's nothing 'difficult' about producing an ID to vote ... an ID that is required for every other commercial transaction in the universe including receiving free health care under the provisions of Odumbocare. Background checks and waiting periods for a Constitutionally guaranteed right are 'difficult'.
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But cause the libtard dems require voter fraud to stay in power, they keep resisting ANY push to require ID's to vote..
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Originally Posted by WTF
Not difficult to obtain an ID if you have one....very difficult to produce one if you do not have an ID as many United States Citizens do not have.
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Are you snoritng something?? How the heck do you say "Many Us citizens don't have proper ID"> DO THey not bank? DO they not get prescriptions? DO they not drive anywhere? DO they not live in a house/rental apartment?
ALL OF THOSE things require an ID (you need to provide one to rent or buy a place, to drive, to get a check cashed and so on)..
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Originally Posted by WTF
A legal United States Citizen should not have to produce a ID to vote....the mere fact that they are a Citizen should be enough. If the state finds they are not a Citizen then they should be arrested.
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And exactly how is the volunteer at the voting table, to know and verify you are a US citizen? just take your word?
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
And just what does this individual do at the pharmacy when the druggist needs a valid ID to fill a prescription for a controlled substance? Suspect this individual has a valid ID for such occasions that this agenda driven journalist wants to hide. Remember when Little Stevie was whining about what his grandma didn't have and couldn't do? One wonders why Little Stevie couldn't find the time to help his poor ol' grandma.
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Or how does he go cash checks? OR pay visits to his doctors office? Even goig to get a tooth taken care of WITH CASH (Not under a health plan), i had to show an ID...
