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Old 11-04-2017, 06:57 PM   #31
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When "deployed" our motor vehicles are not "fully tested" for crash worthiness either, but we still "deploy" them and hope they won't be "fully tested," but nonetheless they will be and have been.

If the other guy believes you won't pull the trigger, regardless of the "reason," it is more likely that one will have to pull the trigger.
They fully test crashing cars. Drive them around for thousands of miles. They make notes and re-iterate. They investigate crash sites. Manufacturers and dealers have a database of flaws and sometimes have to release those flaws to the public. Is every crash investigated for any model of car? No. But enough is known for any instance of newer, common known car to be considered crash worthy and insurable.

Nobody has fully tested an ICBM launch with MIRV reentry at a distance with nuclear detonations. They have tested "pieces" of it. Do I think they will have a 50 plus percent of success? Yes. The same applies with ICBM missile defense systems but I think the success would be lower. But since neither has been fully tested nobody really knows. In fact, the 50% figure is at the same time meaningless and comforting.
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Old 11-05-2017, 12:43 AM   #32
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North Korea would be committing suicide if they waged a war against the United states. I've provided a clear and concise video to illustrate that.

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https://youtu.be/aHGbG_I3v28
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:06 AM   #33
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They fully test crashing cars. Drive them around for thousands of miles. They make notes and re-iterate. They investigate crash sites. Manufacturers and dealers have a database of flaws and sometimes have to release those flaws to the public.
Which is why they have recalls.

BTW pharmaceuticals are the same.

Computer modeling is about as close as "we" can get with ICBMs.

This country has probably more "live" experience on launches and re-entries as any country ... with the Soviets/Russians right behind. We've also led in target acquisition and strikes once the "payload" is launched with actual detonation at the target.

Will there be failures? Perhaps. Is that a deterrence? No.
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:16 AM   #34
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North Korea would be committing suicide if they waged a war against the United states. I've provided a clear and concise video to illustrate that.

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Does your "video" factor in a response by China or the Russians?

The Japanese, South Koreans, and our friends and allies in the Pacific theater are the ones who will suffer the most, most likely. All of them, including the North Koreans, Chinese, and Russians, are historically familiar with "suicide missions," so don't judge their decision making by your own.

In the process of devastating the North Koreans we have the most to lose from a successful strike on the U.S. mainland by a NK missile with a nuclear warhead. Just look at the consequences of 911 ... on this country. Japan and South Korea even more so. So, our pre-emptive strike must be quick and complete.

Play your video. But you should know by now that lunatics are not concerned about the consequences to themselves or the people around them .... anyone who would "flame thrower" his ex-gf really doesn't give a shit.
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Old 11-05-2017, 08:47 AM   #35
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Does your "video" factor in a response by China or the Russians?

The Japanese, South Koreans, and our friends and allies in the Pacific theater are the ones who will suffer the most, most likely. All of them, including the North Koreans, Chinese, and Russians, are historically familiar with "suicide missions," so don't judge their decision making by your own.

In the process of devastating the North Koreans we have the most to lose from a successful strike on the U.S. mainland by a NK missile with a nuclear warhead. Just look at the consequences of 911 ... on this country. Japan and South Korea even more so. So, our pre-emptive strike must be quick and complete.

Play your video. But you should know by now that lunatics are not concerned about the consequences to themselves or the people around them .... anyone who would "flame thrower" his ex-gf really doesn't give a shit.
No, because the analysis of the video was centered exclusively around conflict between N. Korea and the United States.

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Old 11-05-2017, 09:13 AM   #36
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No, because the analysis of the video was centered exclusively around conflict between N. Korea and the United States.

Jim
And that "theory" is realistically wrong. So the video has NO VALIDITY!
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Old 11-05-2017, 09:40 AM   #37
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North Korea would be committing suicide if they waged a war against the United states. I've provided a clear and concise video to illustrate that.
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https://youtu.be/aHGbG_I3v28
Mojo,
Next time provide an entertaining vid to attempt to prove..., umm what were you trying to prove?
Is not this forum here for entertainment?
Things blowing up things at the least.

Carry-on.
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Old 11-05-2017, 09:45 AM   #38
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Is not this forum here for entertainment?
Mojo IS entertaining.

I'm surprised he hasn't crafted a good ole conspiracy theory into the NK nuclear missile concern .... such as something cooked up by the Chinese and the Russians ... with a sprinkle of Iranian spice in it.

(I rarely link to posted links on Eccie unless I am familiar with the destination!)
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. So, our pre-emptive strike must be quick and complete.

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So you think we should attack NK? God damn son....you is doing some serious chicken hawking.

You must have some Adolf in your blood...

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Old 11-05-2017, 09:56 AM   #40
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North Korea would be committing suicide if they waged a war against the United states. I've provided a clear and concise video to illustrate that.

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https://youtu.be/aHGbG_I3v28

there fixed that!


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Mojo IS entertaining.
I've noticed.

And, I think dilbert needs to go back to his cube for posting a post, in the posting forum, that has absolutely nothing posted within the post, except for a copy of a prior post, from the posting forum.
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Old 11-05-2017, 10:20 AM   #42
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So you think we should attack NK? God damn son....you is doing some serious chicken hawking.
Actually, NK still holds the Pueblo as a captured US warship.
That's more than enough for me.

IMO, Pres Lyndon had a serious judgement error on that incident.
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And that "theory" is realistically wrong. So the video has NO VALIDITY!
It's not a Theory. The idea of Russia and China intervening is a theory. You, nor anyone else can possibly predict to what extent their intervention would be. The initial conflict if any would be between NK and the U.S. concentrate on that first before you start speculating.

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And, I think dilbert needs to go back to his cube for posting a post, in the posting forum, that has absolutely nothing posted within the post, except for a copy of a prior post, from the posting forum.
I saw something about "lasting two days" ....

... "two days" is a lifetime in today's environment.

The pre-emptive strike against NK will have to literally paralyze the military/communication/command instantly and eliminate the capacity for NK to launch any kind of a retaliation strike ... to be effective ... and avoid any "Allied" damage.

Small example:

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It's not a Theory. The idea of Russia and China intervening is a theory. You, nor anyone else can possibly predict to what extent their intervention would be. The initial conflict if any would be between NK and the U.S. concentrate on that first before you start speculating.
The appropriate theory for discussion is what would the Bear or Panda do if NK takes the first swing. None of these folks are rookies in the game. Except, that is, for the fat one in NK.
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