Trump the draft dodger insults another vet

[WTF]

Originally Posted by bambino

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You can't count to two you greeweenie loving homo!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Hey guys, it's a fact that President Trump was never in the military.
He has never claimed he was.

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But he did claim that having sex in the 80's was like being in the 'Nam!

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by Greenflag

http://time.com/4889602/donald-trump...nthal-vietnam/

Our draft dodging President attacks a Connecticut Senator over his war record. Trump was too much of a pussy to go serve. But the bubbas on this board will say how much he loves the military even though he was too chicken to serve.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/u...ft-record.html

He didn't dodge the draft. He obtained a deferment just like Bill Clinton did. If he had dodged the draft he would have ended up in prison like Muhammad Ali did.


Jim

[grean]

Originally Posted by WTF

Trump weazled out just like Clinton.

Vets refused to look Clinton in the eye, and even turned their backs to him, even though he had the balls to speak in front of them.


Trump insults vets. I guarantee if they were to turn their backs to him during a speech, he would go fucking bananas. Insults would fly.

Your double standard is confusing.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by grean

Trump weazled out just like Clinton.

Trump didn't "weazle" ... Clinton did.

Trump received four annual educational deferments (one for each of the 4 years of college to graduation), and a medical deferment based on a physician's report/letter. All of those deferments were normal/typical at the time.

"That Bill Clinton went to great lengths to avoid the Vietnam-era draft, that he used political connections to obtain special favors, and that he made promises and commitments which he later failed to honor, are all beyond dispute."
http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/felon.asp



And guess who the facilitating "hot babe" is with him!

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Trump didn't "weazle" ... Clinton did.

Trump received four annual educational deferments (one for each of the 4 years of college to graduation), and a medical deferment based on a physician's report/letter. All of those deferments were normal/typical at the time.

"That Bill Clinton went to great lengths to avoid the Vietnam-era draft, that he used political connections to obtain special favors, and that he made promises and commitments which he later failed to honor, are all beyond dispute."
http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/felon.asp

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Trump was medically disqualified: "4-F, or not qualified for service." Whereas, Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator "weaseled" his way out of serving.

Col. Holmes Notarized Statement

As Entered in Congressional Record (Page: H5551) 7/30/93

September 7, 1992. Memorandum for Record:

Subject: Bill Clinton and the University of Arkansas ROTC Program:

There have been many unanswered questions as to the circumstances surrounding Bill Clinton's involvement with
the ROTC department at the University of Arkansas. Prior to this time I have not felt the necessity for discussing
the details. The reason I have not done so before is that my poor physical health (a consequence of participation
in the Bataan Death March and the subsequent three and a half years interment in Japanese POW camps) has
precluded me from getting into what I felt was unnecessary involvement. However, present polls show that there
is the imminent danger to our country of a draft dodger becoming Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of
the United States. While it is true, as Mr. Clinton has stated, that there were many others who avoided serving
their country in the Vietnam war, they are not aspiring to be the President of the United States.

The tremendous implications of the possibility of his becoming Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed
Forces compels me now to comment on the facts concerning Mr. Clinton's evasion of the draft. This account
would not have been imperative had Bill Clinton been completely honest with the American public concerning
this matter. But as Mr. Clinton replied on a news conference this evening (September 5, 1992) after being asked
another particular about his dodging the draft, "Almost everyone concerned with these incidents are dead. I have
no more comments to make". Since I may be the only person living who can give a first hand account of what
actually transpired, I am obligated by my love for my country and my sense of duty to divulge what actually
happened and make it a matter of record.

Bill Clinton came to see me at my home in 1969 to discuss his desire to enroll in the ROTC program at the
University of Arkansas. We engaged in an extensive, approximately two (2) hour interview. At no time during
this long conversation about his desire to join the program did he inform me of his involvement, participation
and actually organizing protests against the United States involvement in South East Asia. He was shrewd
enough to realize that had I been aware of his activities, he would not have been accepted into the ROTC
program as a potential officer in the United States Army.

The next day I began to receive phone calls regarding Bill Clinton's draft status. I was informed by the draft
board that it was of interest to Senator Fullbright's office that Bill Clinton, a Rhodes Scholar, should be admitted
to the ROTC program. I received several such calls. The general message conveyed by the draft board to me
was that Senator Fullbright's office was putting pressure on them and that they needed my help. I then made
the necessary arrangements to enroll Mr. Clinton into the ROTC program at the University of Arkansas.

I was not "saving" him from serving his country, as he erroneously thanked me for in his letter from England
(dated December 3, 1969). I was making it possible for a Rhodes Scholar to serve in the military as an officer.
In retrospect I see that Mr. Clinton had no intention of following through with his agreement to join the Army
ROTC program at the University of Arkansas or to attend the University of Arkansas Law School. I had
explained to him the necessity of enrolling at the University of Arkansas as a student in order to be eligible to
take the ROTC program at the University. He never enrolled at the University of Arkansas, but instead enrolled
at Yale after attending Oxford. I believe that he purposely deceived me, using the possibility of joining the
ROTC as a ploy to work with the draft board to delay his induction and get a new draft classification.

The December 3rd letter written to me by Mr. Clinton, and subsequently taken from the files by Lt. Col. Clint
Jones, my executive officer, was placed into the ROTC files so that a record would be available in case the
applicant should again petition to enter the ROTC program. The information in that letter alone would have
restricted Bill Clinton from ever qualifying to be an officer in the United States Military. Even more significant
was his lack of veracity in purposefully defrauding the military by deceiving me, both in concealing his anti-
military activities overseas and his counterfeit intentions for later military service. These actions cause me to
question both his patriotism and his integrity. When I consider the caliber, the bravery, and the patriotism of the
fine young soldiers whose deaths I have witnessed, and others whose funerals I have attended.... When I reflect
on not only the willingness but eagerness that so many of them displayed in their earnest desire to defend and
serve their country, it is untenable and incomprehensible to me that a man who was not merely unwilling to
serve his country, but actually protested against its military, should ever be in the position of Commander-in-Chief
of our armed Forces.

I write this declaration not only for the living and future generations, but for those who fought and died for our
country. If space and time permitted I would include the names of the ones I knew and fought with, and along
with them I would mention my brother Bob, who was killed during World War II and is buried in Cambridge,
England (at the age of 23, about the age Bill Clinton was when he was over in England protesting the war). I
have agonized over whether or not to submit this statement to the American people. But, I realize that even
though I served my country by being in the military for over 32 years, and having gone through the ordeal of
months of combat under the worst of conditions followed by years of imprisonment by the Japanese, it is not
enough. I'm writing these comments to let everyone know that I love my country more than I do my own
personal security and well-being. I will go to my grave loving these United States of America and the liberty for
which so many men have fought and died. Because of my poor physical condition this will be my final statement.
I will make no further comments to any of the media regarding this issue.

Eugene Holmes

Colonel, U.S.A., Ret.

September 1992

[bambino]

Originally Posted by WTF

You can't count to two you greeweenie loving homo!

You wish you were as dumb as Bradshaw. He can buy and sell your stupid ass.

[LexusLover]

^^^^^ On Bill Clinton's weazling:

"I had explained to him the necessity of enrolling at the University of Arkansas as a student in order to be eligible to take the ROTC program at the University. He never enrolled at the University of Arkansas, but instead enrolled at Yale after attending Oxford. I believe that he purposely deceived me, using the possibility of joining the ROTC as a ploy to work with the draft board to delay his induction and get a new draft classification."

In the tradition of "I didn't have sex with that woman!"

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by bambino

You wish you were as dumb as Bradshaw. He can buy and sell your stupid ass.

From Bradshaw's pocket change....

.... and with anyone of WTF's bimbos thrown into the deal.

[JCM800]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

...Trump was medically disqualified for service...

You don't seriously believe that do you?

[bamscram]

Typical liberal talking points if someone else did it it is ok if our man did it.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by JCM800

You don't seriously believe that do you?

They believe that Trump actually had it harder chasing pussy here in the States than Vets did in 'Nam and they think Trump trying to kick Vets off the streets evidently makes him a great supporter veterans!

Donald Trump is using Vets for political gain and their hatred for the Clinton's has blinded them to that fact.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

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Trump was medically disqualified: "4-F, or not qualified for service." Whereas, Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator "weaseled" his way out of serving.

You think Trump did not weasel his way out of service? You sir are presenting facts without distinction. You have fallen for this snake oil salesman hook , line and sinker.

[grean]

From the NYTimes.

"The questioning centers on the fall of 1969 when Bill Clinton was headed back to England to complete a Rhodes Scholarship. It seemed unlikely that his draft board would defer him again. He tried and failed to win Navy or Air Force commissions that might have sent him to Vietnam, though not as a grunt soldier. Then he signed up for a Reserve Officer program that kept him out of the draft.

A few weeks later, on Oct. 31, his draft board, having learned he had changed his mind about R.O.T.C., reclassified him 1-A, theoretically exposing him to call-up. Only on Dec. 1, when his birth date came up 311 in the brand new draft lottery, was he safe against worry.

He may have felt safe even during that exposed November. Draft calls had been reduced and graduate-student deferments were about to be restored. Taken in isolation, the Clinton record could thus be read to show manipulation and delay. But in fairness, his behavior needs to be compared with that of his peers.

Vice President Dan Quayle provides an apposite example. He was able to join the Indiana National Guard; otherwise he would have risked the draft. In the crazy time of 1969, other young men found themselves suddenly drawn to divinity school or defense industries. Desperate potential draftees drank their own blood to feign ulcers and gorged on licorice stew because that was supposed to elevate blood pressure. Still others sought refuge in Canada -- or went to prison."



I'm sure they could have added flat feet to the number of bullshit reasons guys used to get out of the war.

Pot & kettle. If you're gonna call bs on Clinton, you must for Quayle, and others too, including Trump.

[WTF]

Trump is a true POS and will be exposed for wtf he is eventually.

Mean while, you have this special interest group that wants Trump to throw more tax dollars their way with no concern for the nations long term financial health. They call their selves patriotic pro military Trumpers....I call them wtf they are, just another special interest group.

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

That single appointment, let alone what he's accomplishing at the VA, is better than anything hildebeest, Odumbo or Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator did for the military.

And just what has he accomplished at the VA? Thrown more money at it? Why didn't you include GW Bush in your list?

Money can accomplish wonders...How about we throw more money at healthcare for all .... FREE Healthcare!

At what point do you consider debt?