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[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I don't disagree with that. There are about 1.6 BILLION Muslims in this world. A handful are terrorists. Based on estimates I read, about 1 in every 100,000 Muslims is connected to a terrorist organization. So should we condemn 99,999 Muslims for the act of 1?

Lets look at that in a different manner. Lets just say there are 1.6 Billion Siberian Tigers in the world and only a handful have been documented to have attacked and killed humans. So would you be willing to go into a cage or into their natural habitat and mingle with them?


Jim

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

Lets look at that in a different manner. Lets just say there are 1.6 Billion Siberian Tigers in the world and only a handful have been documented to have attacked and killed humans. So would you be willing to go into a cage or into their natural habitat and mingle with them?


Jim

Rather stupid analogy. Siberian Tigers are dangerous by nature. You can certainly try to tame them but you can ask Roy Horn how well that works People, whether Muslim, Catholic, Buddhist, Jewish, etc, are not dangerous by nature. People learn to be dangerous to others. People are not born murderers, or rapists, or thieves. 15,000+ people murdered in this country in an average year. Were those that killed born killers?

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Rather stupid analogy. Siberian Tigers are dangerous by nature. You can certainly try to tame them but you can ask Roy Horn how well that works People, whether Muslim, Catholic, Buddhist, Jewish, etc, are not dangerous by nature. People learn to be dangerous to others. People are not born murderers, or rapists, or thieves. 15,000+ people murdered in this country in an average year. Were those that killed born killers?

It's not a stupid analogy. My point was and you missed it, are you willing to take a chance? I would put all Muslims on hold based on a lot of them conforming to an Anti-Christian, Jewish ideologies.

Jim

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Muslims condemn Islamic terrorists as much as you and I do. Think about it.

No they don't, and I have thought about it. Have you ever considered how the Pope and Western governments and Western society would react if a religious splinter group started murdering thousands of people in the name of Christianity? We would all be appalled and ashamed and apologetic and would quickly stamp out the terrorist heretics in our midst!

Look at the pics I posted of the Orlando killer's father... he has no fucking shame! If you had a son who did what his son did, you would be devastated and would probaby devote the rest of your life to making amends to the victims! This fucktard is out and about waving hildebeest placards weeks after his son committed mass murder for ISIS! My jaw hit the floor when I saw that! Not just because the dimotards were stupid enough to display him prominently at a hildebeest rally, but because that muslim jackass would even dare to show his face in public!

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

It's not a stupid analogy. My point was and you missed it, are you willing to take a chance? I would put all Muslims on hold based on a lot of them conforming to an Anti-Christian, Jewish ideologies.

Jim

There is little chance to take. If someone is a Muslim emigrating from Canada, he or she should undergo no more or less vetting than a Catholic emigrating from Canada. Trump's immigration ban affects people, not Muslims, from 6 countries. There are churches and temples all over predominantly Muslim countries, except for probably Saudi Arabia. I will say it again -- if I am ever the victim of a homicide or violent crime in this country, the odds are overwhelming that it will be done by a non-Muslim, and more than likely by a person who calls himself a Christian.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politif...gogues/1126477

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by lustylad

No they don't, and I have thought about it. Have you ever considered how the Pope and Western governments and Western society would react if a religious splinter group started murdering thousands of people in the name of Christianity? We would all be appalled and ashamed and apologetic and would quickly stamp out the terrorist heretics in our midst!

Look at the pics I posted of the Orlando killer's father... he has no fucking shame! If you had a son who did what his son did, you would be devastated and would probaby devote the rest of your life to making amends to the victims! This fucktard is out and about waving hildebeest placards weeks after his son committed mass murder for ISIS! My jaw hit the floor when I saw that! Not just because the dimotards were stupid enough to display him prominently at a hildebeest rally, but because that muslim jackass would even dare to show his face in public!

I would not be ashamed or apologetic for a Christian murdering others. They are not me and do not represent my values. Many white men have gone on killing sprees in recent years. I am not ashamed or apologetic for them because they are not me and do not represent my values.

Regarding Seddique Manteen being at the rally for Hillary Clinton:

"A Clinton aide said: "The rally was a 3,000-person, open-door event for the public. This individual wasn't invited as a guest and the campaign was unaware of his attendance until after the event."


Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill later issued a statement saying, "Hillary Clinton disagrees with his views and disavows his support.""

I agree with you that the man should not have shown up at the rally but Clinton had nothing to do with him being there. Omar Mateen was born in the U.S. and was a citizen of this country. Again, there are about 3.3 million Muslims living in the U.S. Should we condemn them all for the actions of one?

[Greenflag]

If we were so scared of middle east terrorists we would have invaded Saudi Arabia. 15 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi. The travel ban is not in effect for Saudi Arabia. Trump has hotel interests there. We blew up the middle east and now the people that lived there have no where to go. They are pouring into Western Europe and everywhere else.

The people that scare me are the right wing terrorists. Most of the attacks on American soil came from the right wing. How about Timothy McVeigh, David Koresh, Dylan Roof just to name a few. A bunch of crazy right wing gun nuts that are scared of their own shadow.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Greenflag

If we were so scared of middle east terrorists we would have invaded Saudi Arabia. 15 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi. The travel ban is not in effect for Saudi Arabia. Trump has hotel interests there. We blew up the middle east and now the people that lived there have no where to go. They are pouring into Western Europe and everywhere else.

The people that scare me are the right wing terrorists. Most of the attacks on American soil came from the right wing. How about Timothy McVeigh, David Koresh, Dylan Roof just to name a few. A bunch of crazy right wing gun nuts that are scared of their own shadow.

You're a fucking liar! 9-11 caused some 9,000 deaths and injuries making McVeigh look like an amateur. And Koresh didn't "attack" anyone. It was Slick Willie the Lying Sexual Predator that sent government agents against him. And what about that Muslim John Muhammed? He killed twice as many as Dylan Roof. And the press has yet to mention what religion "doctor" Henry Bello subscribed to. What the public does know is that Bello is a Nigerian immigrant who overstayed his education work permit.

[Greenflag]

David Koresh was fucking 10 year olds, he was a cult leader and a pediophileYour an idiot , 2996 people died on 9/11, not 9,000. There have been more right wing nut attacks then attacks by muslims.

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

There is little chance to take. If someone is a Muslim emigrating from Canada, he or she should undergo no more or less vetting than a Catholic emigrating from Canada. Trump's immigration ban affects people, not Muslims, from 6 countries. There are churches and temples all over predominantly Muslim countries, except for probably Saudi Arabia. I will say it again -- if I am ever the victim of a homicide or violent crime in this country, the odds are overwhelming that it will be done by a non-Muslim, and more than likely by a person who calls himself a Christian.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politif...gogues/1126477

Oh really little chance to take. Then why are the cities of Detroit and Dearborn having numerous reports of Muslims restricting the flow and committing assaults of non Muslims through the streets in and around their neighborhoods? These are just two cities there's others. Muslims are also being reported to be occupying areas of little population and are training with weapons and self defense tactics. The bottom line is we don't need any group Muslim or otherwise behaving in this manner in the United States. The odds of you or any American being killed by a Muslim might be higher than you think since it appears they are out there training to do it.

Jim

[Greenflag]

Please show me all of these assaults that are happening out in Detroit by Muslims. You should have something that documents this

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I would not be ashamed or apologetic for a Christian murdering others. They are not me and do not represent my values.

You deliberately left out my words "in the name of Christianity". Assuming you are a Christian, then any co-religionist who advocates and commits mass murder in the name of Christianity is indeed claiming to reflect your values. So yes, you would - or at least should - be horrified if that happened.

[MT Pockets]

Originally Posted by Greenflag

If we were so scared of middle east terrorists we would have invaded Saudi Arabia. 15 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi. The travel ban is not in effect for Saudi Arabia. Trump has hotel interests there. We blew up the middle east and now the people that lived there have no where to go. They are pouring into Western Europe and everywhere else.

The people that scare me are the right wing terrorists. Most of the attacks on American soil came from the right wing. How about Timothy McVeigh, David Koresh, Dylan Roof just to name a few. A bunch of crazy right wing gun nuts that are scared of their own shadow.

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You're a fucking liar! 9-11 caused some 9,000 deaths and injuries making McVeigh look like an amateur. And Koresh didn't "attack" anyone. It was Slick Willie the Lying Sexual Predator that sent government agents against him. And what about that Muslim John Muhammed? He killed twice as many as Dylan Roof. And the press has yet to mention what religion "doctor" Henry Bello subscribed to. What the public does know is that Bello is a Nigerian immigrant who overstayed his education work permit.

By your own standard, The amount of casualties is most important so we are now back to Saudi, aren't we now.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Greenflag

There have been more right wing nut attacks then attacks by muslims.

To paraphrase your other post, please show me all of these anti-Muslim right wing nut attacks that are killing more people than died on 9/11 + Orlando + San Bernardino + Fort Hood, etc. You should have something that documents this, no?

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by Greenflag

Please show me all of these assaults that are happening out in Detroit by Muslims. You should have something that documents this

Tell me who the instigators are?

https://youtu.be/ZVvgrEm4FE4
https://youtu.be/-2okgUG_5Ys
https://youtu.be/RMBESTJPdo4
Jim