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Old 05-23-2017, 04:02 PM   #1
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Default What are ways to verify clients????

What are any ways to verify new clients that want to set an appointment with a provider? Like myself. Some kind of background check or app or website or tool to do some kind of check on a cell number or persons information they give so that I can see if they are SAFE and no the LE or dangerous.

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(2) Run his various contact info through the following background check databases, and blacklist & alert services.
BackPage Blacklist (You must have a BP account)
Provider Buzz (You must be logged in to P411 to see ProviderBuzz)
National Blacklist
Danger Zone 411
Criminal Check
Black Listed John
VerifyHIm
Provider2Provider SMS Alert System (This is invite-only. If you need an invitation, PM me)
SearchSystems
DirtSearch
Net Detective
Virtual Gumshoe
People Verified

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FORUMS:
Sexy Escort Ads Blacklist
Naughty Reviews
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BigDoggie
PinkBook

User Name Search:
pipl
is an aggregator that searches the “deep Web,” or parts of the Internet that are often missed by regular search engines such as Google. Pipl allows you to search by name, e-mail address, username, or phone number. Pipl then crawls the Web and aggregates all search results that contain your terms–so it’s more of a one-stop shop for results.

(3) Visit links provided (is it an ad / profile or dedicated website?) and are they “live”?
(a) Websites
(i) Is the site complete? Intro, Bio, Rates, Gallery, Contact – plus.
(ii) Note: is contact info different than provided?
(iii) Copy any additional / different contact info.
(iv) Google “:domain” type in www.domain-to-search.com. How many links? Active providers should have 10+ links. Compare with Alexa and WhoLinks2me – some data will be consistent, stats about domain links may differ (that’s ok).

(B] Advertisements & Profiles
(i) Note the date ad was published and / or last visited.
(Should be more than a couple weeks)
(ii) Is the ad complete? (Photos & contact info).
(iii) Note: is contact info different than provided?
(iv) Copy any additional / different contact info.

(4) Verify references contact info - Google all reference contact info (provided / discovered) & analyze results.
(a) Are there other ads, profiles or websites with her info?
(B] Is other info (stage name, additional contact info) consistent?
© Are photos consistent across results?
(d) Does she have reviews? If yes: How many? How long? How recent?
(e) Are there any warnings about the provider?

(5) Contact reference using preferred method
(a) Provide the clients name or alias, contact info, memory jogger, photo or detailed physical description.
(B] Note: would the reference see the gent again, if not, why?
© Verification should also include if the gent arrived on time & with proper donation.
(d) Inquire about any anomalies discovered in steps 1 & 2 above.
(e) IF reference prefers email contact, then… ask for a quick phone call – is reference in control of her email account?

Personal / Employment Verification Method

This method can often be a little more difficult and challenging since many clients do not wish to provide all the information sought (or if they do, some of the details may be slightly fabricated).

Info to collect – Personal / Employment Verification:

- Employers name
- Employers phone # (main switchboard)
- Employers website
- Clients direct phone line and email with said employer
- Clients detailed physical description (or a photo)

Actions to take:

(1) Verify personal information just as you would in Step 1 Provider References Method at the Top of this manual

(2) Is the client employed or self-employed?

(a) If client is EMPLOYED…
(i) Visit employer links (BE CAREFUL, AS LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN AND WILL HAVE TWO JOBS!!! VERIFY THAT THIS IS THEIR ONE AND ONLY JOB!!!):
1. Is the client’s name listed on the company directory?
2. Is the other contact info provided consistent?
3. Does the site appear to be complete & legit?
4. Search whois.net: Verify how long site has been established.
(ii) Contact employer via main switchboard:
1. Ask for Human Resources.
2. Ask if the client is still employed with them – Let them know you don’t need financial data or specifics, just to answer yes or no whether he’s STILL EMPLOYED with the company.
3. If they ask who is calling: Just rattle off a common acronym like UCLA, OSU, or CCCI.
(iii) Contact the client’s direct line (after business hours).
1. If the client answers: Most people usually announce themselves, if not, ask who you just called (make note of the name given). End the call by stating you had been given
the wrong phone number.
2. If the client does not answer: Note what his voice mail states (should be his name). Do not leave a message.
5. Search ZoomInfo, which aggregates job and company information.

(B] If a client is SELF-EMPLOYED…
(i) Verify the Company exists:
1. Search for Records of his business in Secretary of state directory
2. Google Company Name (with and without quotes)
3. Google company domain name using the following command: “:domain”
Type in www.domain-to-search.com How many inbound links are there? Legit business sites should have 30+ links. Compare with Alexa and WhoLinks2me – some data will be consistent, stats about domain links may differ (that’s ok).
4. Search whois.net: Look up domain who-is data:
a) How long has the domain been active?
B] Is the domain registered to the client or at least registered near the location the client claims to be from?
(ii) Visit the business web site:
1. Is the client’s name listed on the website?
2. Is other contact info provided consistent?
3. Does the site appear to be complete & legit?
(iii) Contact the client’s direct line (after business hours).
1. If the client answers: Most people usually announce themselves, if not, ask who you just called (make note of the name given). End the call by stating you had been given the wrong number.
2. If the client does not answer: Note what his voice mail states (should be his name). Do not leave a message.

Special Consideration For Outcall:

(A) Going to a Hotel – Call the front desk, and ask to be connected to your client (by name). Then when you arrive, ask for him to show proof of his identity.

(B] Going to a Private Home – Lookup the address in Google, also BeenVerified.com – you’ll see property reports and can search by address and should confirm other identity info you’ve already been given. Lastly, ask to see the gents ID when you arrive.

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Other Screening Methods:
Third Party Reference Verification Services- This process is fairly self-explanatory, and steps may differ from service to service.
The top three services are:
Date-Check
Preferred411
RoomService2000 (for the Mid-West, mostly)
Amazon & Ebay- Some ladies have gone as far as to search Amazon and Ebay’s registered users / wish lists to learn more about their potential dates. These measures are long-shots and best reserved for drastic or difficult cases.
Board Membership & History- You may be tempted to reference a gentleman through his activity on a hobby related board. Boards have become targets for compromise, so you must be very careful, confirm all contact info through the board, and then through the other contact method. Anything but a very long history is too risky. Use of this method is best when used in ADDITION to others already mentioned herein.
Physical ID & Public Meeting- Checking ID’s is a technique best used to confirm that the person who was screened is actually the person who shows up, but not in place of screening. Further, public meetings are not an adequate screening method, even bad people know to behave in public.

REMEMBER, EVEN SCREENING ISN’T 100% EFFECTIVE; ALWAYS HAVE A SAFETY PLAN
1) Always start & end appointments by calling to “check-in” with a friend who knows your whereabouts and what to do in case of an emergency. Consider setting up a “safe-word” that when used, indicate you are NOT safe, with instructions on what to do next.
2) Learn some basic self-defense. Typically, you can get free classes at an abused woman’s shelter.

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Please Refer to my popular ‘SCREENING 101 FOR PROVIDERS’ post HERE, to learn in-depth screening and verification tactics ranging from FREE of cost to CHEAP ($50 per YEAR). You’ll also learn how to screen gents without them even knowing you’re doing so, at least, not so heavily, tee hee. ;}~
RESEARCH THE CLIENTS: HOPE FOR THE BEST, EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED, BUT PREPARE FOR THE WORST.
There are a few websites you can go on to check if your potential client is who he states he is, has been arrested, and/or has been blacklisted. These include…
For the United States:
Google their phone number, name, email address and work information.
Check if any accounts on facebook, LinkedIn, or message boards come up.
Type the full phone number (including area code) into Google’s search box; i.e., 555-555-1212.
You’ll see the number listed at dozens of different phone directories. Unfortunately, since Google changed the way they list phone numbers, this is what we have to work with.
If the number is attached to a business, that business (usually) will show up in the first five search results.
If the number is attached to a private household, the address most likely will not show up attached to the number. However, if that person has placed their number anywhere else on the Web, perhaps at a social networking site, then that listing will show up first.
You can find a lot of information about someone simply by entering their name or number in “quotation marks”, like this:

“Tony 3 Toes” , or… “555-555-1212″

If the person you’re looking for has an unusual name, you don’t necessarily need to put the name in quotation marks in order for this to work. In addition, if you know where the person lives or works or what clubs/organizations, etc. that they are associated with, you can try a variety of different combinations:

“Tony 3 Toes” montana
Tony3Toes@gmail.com “The Erotic Review”
site:NationalBlacklist.com “555-555-1212″
Google Image Search

Many people upload photos and images to the Web, and these images can usually found using a simple Google Images search, including clients.

You can upload an image from your computer
you can drag and drop an image from the Web
Google will scan the image and deliver search results that are related to that specific image
Other Reverse Image Search engines include TinEye, Image Raider, MSIS, Yandex, SocialCatfish and Karma Decay
Other US Blacklists and Search Databases:

roomservice2000.com
date-check.com
verifyhim.com
NationalBlacklist.com FREE via Google Search Results if the number is in their database (With a nice, lengthy partial report to read!)
VitalRec
Zabasearch
USA.gov
Openbook.org
CriminalSearches
VirtualGumshoe
Pipl
iSearch
Wink
ZoomInfo
BRBpub
OnlineSearchesPub
Google Maps (to make sure the potential client’s home exists, and that it is in a safe neighborhood, etc.) You can find all sorts of useful information with Google Maps, simply by typing in an address:
View an entire neighborhood.
Check out business listings.
Find names, addresses, and phone numbers (with directions to any location you want).
Get a satellite, aerial, or hybrid view of the location you’re looking for.
Get a street-level view of the location you’re looking for (not available for all areas).
Find directions with live traffic updates.
For Canada (as well as United States and the United Kingdom):
Census Finder is a free public records search site that can help you track down all sorts of interesting demographic information.
Canada Criminal Records FREE
For the United Kingdom:
DirectGov is a searchable public data search database of a wide range of government information and services in the United Kingdom, and is considered an excellent source of free online information.
Search Systems UK
UK Land Property Search
SAAFE.info has forums and blacklists of UK hobbyists and travelers to the UK.
For International Searches:
Search Systems INTL – $5 per Search… Search over 75 National, International, and State databases for known terrorists, casino cheats, Interpol fugitives, NCIS & FBI most wanted, debarred parties, sanctioned parties, and persons involved in government fraud, federal banking law violations, money laundering, and illegal imports.
FREE International Public Records
FREE Global Public Records
FREE International Criminal Records Check
Red flags from the above searches include…
Talking about drugs or about violent or sexually violent subjects on social media or message boards.
No records of any sort (websites, phone numbers, email addresses, business reviews) for the work information he provided you.
Writing consistently negative reviews on message boards about one or more providers who have otherwise good reputations.
If a guy calls from a private number and will not give you his real phone number, it is most likely that he is going to do something unscrupulous at the very least, from not showing up, to stealing from you, to becoming violent with you.
A private number + an unwillingness to cooperate with even the most BASIC screening = Big Red flag, that he…
Has something to hide (a psycho wife, a mile-long rap sheet, etc.)
Is blacklisted and doesn’t want you to know (What was he blacklisted for?? Creepy!)
Has nefarious and malicious intentions (Worst case scenario, but has happened to too many of us, so WHY take the chance??)
Guys can now hide their phone numbers behind online fake `spoofed` phone numbers.
Call the number back, and if it doesn’t ring like a normal phone, chances are that it is a spoofed number, and you shouldn’t see the guy.
CHECK OUT THE LATEST BLACKLISTS BELOW:
BackPage Blacklist, Forum and Screening Tools: http://backpageblacklist.com
My New Backpage Blacklist and Screening tools: http://www.mynewback…/blacklist.html
VerifyHim Blacklist Database, Forum and Reporting Tools: http://VerifyHim.com
Blacklisted John Database, Forum and Reporting Tools: http://blacklistedjohn.com/
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VERIFYING CLIENTS:
Please Refer to my popular ‘SCREENING 101 FOR PROVIDERS’ post HERE, to learn in-depth screening and verification tactics ranging from FREE of cost to CHEAP ($50 per YEAR). You’ll also learn how to screen gents without them even knowing you’re doing so, at least, not so heavily, tee hee. ;}~
RESEARCH THE CLIENTS: HOPE FOR THE BEST, EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED, BUT PREPARE FOR THE WORST.
There are a few websites you can go on to check if your potential client is who he states he is, has been arrested, and/or has been blacklisted. These include…
For the United States:
Google their phone number, name, email address and work information.
Check if any accounts on facebook, LinkedIn, or message boards come up.
Type the full phone number (including area code) into Google’s search box; i.e., 555-555-1212.
You’ll see the number listed at dozens of different phone directories. Unfortunately, since Google changed the way they list phone numbers, this is what we have to work with.
If the number is attached to a business, that business (usually) will show up in the first five search results.
If the number is attached to a private household, the address most likely will not show up attached to the number. However, if that person has placed their number anywhere else on the Web, perhaps at a social networking site, then that listing will show up first.
You can find a lot of information about someone simply by entering their name or number in “quotation marks”, like this:

“Tony 3 Toes” , or… “555-555-1212″

If the person you’re looking for has an unusual name, you don’t necessarily need to put the name in quotation marks in order for this to work. In addition, if you know where the person lives or works or what clubs/organizations, etc. that they are associated with, you can try a variety of different combinations:

“Tony 3 Toes” montana
Tony3Toes@gmail.com “The Erotic Review”
site:NationalBlacklist.com “555-555-1212″
Google Image Search

Many people upload photos and images to the Web, and these images can usually found using a simple Google Images search, including clients.

You can upload an image from your computer
you can drag and drop an image from the Web
Google will scan the image and deliver search results that are related to that specific image
Other Reverse Image Search engines include TinEye, Image Raider, MSIS, Yandex, SocialCatfish and Karma Decay
Other US Blacklists and Search Databases:

roomservice2000.com
date-check.com
verifyhim.com
NationalBlacklist.com FREE via Google Search Results if the number is in their database (With a nice, lengthy partial report to read!)
VitalRec
Zabasearch
USA.gov
Openbook.org
CriminalSearches
VirtualGumshoe
Pipl
iSearch
Wink
ZoomInfo
BRBpub
OnlineSearchesPub
Google Maps (to make sure the potential client’s home exists, and that it is in a safe neighborhood, etc.) You can find all sorts of useful information with Google Maps, simply by typing in an address:
View an entire neighborhood.
Check out business listings.
Find names, addresses, and phone numbers (with directions to any location you want).
Get a satellite, aerial, or hybrid view of the location you’re looking for.
Get a street-level view of the location you’re looking for (not available for all areas).
Find directions with live traffic updates.
For Canada (as well as United States and the United Kingdom):
Census Finder is a free public records search site that can help you track down all sorts of interesting demographic information.
Canada Criminal Records FREE
For the United Kingdom:
DirectGov is a searchable public data search database of a wide range of government information and services in the United Kingdom, and is considered an excellent source of free online information.
Search Systems UK
UK Land Property Search
SAAFE.info has forums and blacklists of UK hobbyists and travelers to the UK.
For International Searches:
Search Systems INTL – $5 per Search… Search over 75 National, International, and State databases for known terrorists, casino cheats, Interpol fugitives, NCIS & FBI most wanted, debarred parties, sanctioned parties, and persons involved in government fraud, federal banking law violations, money laundering, and illegal imports.
FREE International Public Records
FREE Global Public Records
FREE International Criminal Records Check
Red flags from the above searches include…
Talking about drugs or about violent or sexually violent subjects on social media or message boards.
No records of any sort (websites, phone numbers, email addresses, business reviews) for the work information he provided you.
Writing consistently negative reviews on message boards about one or more providers who have otherwise good reputations.
If a guy calls from a private number and will not give you his real phone number, it is most likely that he is going to do something unscrupulous at the very least, from not showing up, to stealing from you, to becoming violent with you.
A private number + an unwillingness to cooperate with even the most BASIC screening = Big Red flag, that he…
Has something to hide (a psycho wife, a mile-long rap sheet, etc.)
Is blacklisted and doesn’t want you to know (What was he blacklisted for?? Creepy!)
Has nefarious and malicious intentions (Worst case scenario, but has happened to too many of us, so WHY take the chance??)
Guys can now hide their phone numbers behind online fake `spoofed` phone numbers.
Call the number back, and if it doesn’t ring like a normal phone, chances are that it is a spoofed number, and you shouldn’t see the guy.
CHECK OUT THE LATEST BLACKLISTS BELOW:
BackPage Blacklist, Forum and Screening Tools: http://backpageblacklist.com
My New Backpage Blacklist and Screening tools: http://www.mynewback…/blacklist.html
VerifyHim Blacklist Database, Forum and Reporting Tools: http://VerifyHim.com
Blacklisted John Database, Forum and Reporting Tools: http://blacklistedjohn.com/
It's probably easier getting national security clearance
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Are we just want a quick date or a long term relationship? Way over done with all unnecessary verification.
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All of this to meet someone for hhr or hr? I guess that is why it can take so long for a provider to reply. At that point I have moved on to someone else. So that means they did all of that for nothing. Should I as a person looking to see a provider do all of that work that you just talked about to make sure that the provider is real? Everyone has to be safe but if you want to know what I had for lunch just ask. BTW, none of my jobs I ever had ever did that much research before they gave me a job.
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Gentlemen take a deep breath and relax please. It's a list of options to use for screening. NOT how to step by step or exactly how to directions.
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Understanding P411... just because the guy has 16 ok's ..doesn't make him good to go? What steps can be taken further?
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Understanding P411... just because the guy has 16 ok's ..doesn't make him good to go? What steps can be taken further?
References seem to be the most common option. P411 seems overrated to me.
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I saw this post and your other posts. I did not know there was so many ways for a provider to check on a client. Can and should a client use those same ways to make sure the provider is not LE or to check if the provider might set up the client? I think it goes both ways. When you meet someone for the first time you have no idea what will happen. If a provider has a lot of reviews, has a lot of yes reviews does that mean the clients that want to see her have nothing to worry about? How do the clients stay safe? What are signs that a provider gives that tell a client to stay away?
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Verifyhim is not a completely trustworthy verification site. A lot of the reports on there are not actually written by members of the site. They scrape client reports from other sites and put them on there. I'm not a female but I was able to get an account on there which should tell you how secure the site is.
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I saw this post and your other posts. I did not know there was so many ways for a provider to check on a client. Can and should a client use those same ways to make sure the provider is not LE or to check if the provider might set up the client? I think it goes both ways. When you meet someone for the first time you have no idea what will happen. If a provider has a lot of reviews, has a lot of yes reviews does that mean the clients that want to see her have nothing to worry about? How do the clients stay safe? What are signs that a provider gives that tell a client to stay away?
Just as with the ladies, how much you should screen is up to you.

If it were me, and it was a lady with a long and active presence here, a good number of positive reviews, I would feel comfortable with little else (little, not none).

But if it is someone "new", with no review history from guys I tend to trust, then I would do A LOT of checking before seeking to meet her.

What is your level of anxiety? What is your risk tolerance? Those are very individual things. But usually the lady is taking a lot more physical risk meeting an unknown guy than the other way around.


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Paid advertisers are usually a safe bet.
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It's probably easier getting national security clearance
Thank you for the info. Wow that was so thorough.
Better to be safe than sorry.
Nothing is fool proof I know.
I look for a positive online presence for providers .. Website positive and current reviews .No BP refs ever as they are too flighty .
My eccie.friends are solid and I continue to see every one of the on a fairly regular basis .
I have had only 2 bad experiences with References falsified on here .Most Eccie members are very accommodating with providing refs.
I just want to know :
1)did she in fact see him?
2)is he safe ?
3) would she see him again ?
The rest is my judgement.

Just because a guy is good to one lady ,may not make it so for the next lady.
A reference is only as solid as the provider giving it.
Avoiding LE is paramount.
Being hurt is second .
I have been robbed in Long Island
Approached online by a "handler" who "introduces" ladies/men on here and other boards for fee or favor .
I just wanna have FUN with FUN people.

No one truly knows how much we do to be safe .
Thank you for taking the time to post.
Unfortunately there are bad people in this game .
I cant tell you how many clients email me AFTER they have had a bad experience with someone prior.

I Heard some bad deals all bc they guy didnt check her out first.


Anything I can do to be safe and stay safe is always a help.
I let my reviews speak for themselves.
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