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04-26-2017, 03:31 AM
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Hot, Smooth & Full-Bodied
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Other - the lulz ... probably think trolling/bashing makes them look funny or edgy.
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04-26-2017, 06:01 AM
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Join Date: Dec 17, 2009
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Interesting comments above and O-T, thanks for the shout out but your explanations added way more.
Thing is, my "lovers" and "haters" can obviously be applied to the female gender, too. Obviously.
Luxie, I wouldn't write off any city just because some trolls make the city forums appear unfriendly. Plenty of ways to avoid those peeps and still have a fine tour and meet even more fine ladies and gentlemen as a group. Not just in Austin, but in San Antonio, too.
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04-26-2017, 07:26 AM
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Join Date: Jan 8, 2012
Location: Where the East peters out
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Originally Posted by Lena Duvall
ECCIE clients, if a particular escort isn't your cup of tea and isn't sexually desirable to you, how do you choose to navigate that in the public coed forums? (God only knows what goes down in the "Locker Room" section of this site so please spare me the sordid details.) Do you still civilly engage? Or politely ignore the companions you don't fancy. Or do you like to go the route of obsessively fixating on them and using online stalking tactics to antagonize them?
What kind of coed forum do you want for the city you live in? Should the coed forum be an extension of the men's only section? Should women remain silent and voiceless as if it's 1717 and not actually 2017? Do you like your local coed forum to be dominated by the most braggadocious clients to the point where companions are shunned? Or do you prefer hobby-related discussions that are lighthearted, cheerful and maybe even a little sexy and flirtatious?
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Lena,
I'm more of a lurker these days, but I always enjoy the thoughtful nature of your posts. Thank you.
I selected "other" because you did not have an "all of the above" option. I believe different people do different things for different reasons. Add in that we all have bad days where someone posts something that rubs us the wrong way, and before you know it we post some stupid shit that....10 minutes later....we wish we could take back. Lord knows I'm guilty of that.
Despite my vague answer, I have noticed one trend that depresses me. In general, there seems to be an "us vs them" attitude that underlies a lot of the postings on most of the boards I have visited. When either side lets their guard down for a minute, it is obvious. In general, the men on the boards tend to hold the providers in contempt. And the reverse is true, also: In general, the providers tend to hold their client base in contempt. As I said, this makes me sad.
This is not to say all providers hate all clients, or vice versa. I am reminded of the old Mary Poppins movie, where the mother is at her women's rights meeting and they are
singing about the movement. One line of the song goes something like this: "individually we love our men, but taken together, we find them rather stupid."
Yeah. Its kind of like that, on both sides. Again, that's too bad.
The main reason I come here is to flirt. I wish the the coed section posts were nothing but men strutting around like peacocks and the ladies giving come-hither looks with fluttering eyelashes. Those are my favorite kinds of threads.
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04-26-2017, 07:54 AM
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I think a lot of these guys are pissed they have to pay for it. They alleviate their frustration by harassing these gals.
Then it may be a case that some of these guys are simply a-holes.
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04-26-2017, 08:12 AM
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It seems to be a League of Supertrolls who are basically given immunity to run amok on this board. They contribute virtually nothing to the board but trollism, ruining threads, starting fights, and putting down providers. Dallas is a Troll Factory.
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04-26-2017, 10:51 AM
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I hope the OP is NOT naive enough to think this is a one sided issue. There are plenty of mean spiereted, hate filked Providers who make up lies and attack hobbyists and other Providers. IMHO, the Providers are driven to do it out of jealousy and narcissism.
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yup so true.
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04-26-2017, 11:11 AM
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Case in point!
How far is too far? When is a comment not just a horrible joke but rhetoric that is making light of physical and sexual violence which I (mistakenly) thought wasn't tolerated here on ECCIE.
If the local moderator has a very low bar for interpreting the rules, is it a matter of going to the administrators?
Or is this example just not in violation of any of the guidelines? It seems if a provider posts a threAD, some dudes are up in arms... but advocating for m*rd*r and n*cr*ph*l*a is totally fine?! To say I'm confused is an understatement.
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04-26-2017, 11:15 AM
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I sent that to the site administrators last night. Hopefully something will be done. This site is for providers and without us it doesn't exist. But I refuse to be give any website my business and traffic if they won't make my safety a priority.
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04-26-2017, 11:18 AM
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I am a top-notch, cool quality kind of guy.
Ladies?
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04-26-2017, 11:19 AM
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Old-T, ck1942, & hgritstoo ... Well said!!!
It is so easy for someone to hide behind a keyboard and type abusive slander or comments in someone else's direction.
I take the approach that the Coed Section is me walking into a party, a club, or a bar. There are plenty of individual conversations going on. As I walk around the establishment, I can choose to stop and participate in any conversation going on. Sometimes I am drawn into the conversation simply by the subject matter. I am not erotically attracted to anyone in that conversation and I might agree with someone in that group and I might disagree with another in that same group. Other conversations might draw me in due to one or two hot beautiful women that I notice are a part of that conversation. Sure, I want to say something they find appealing. Sometimes, I put my foot in my mouth. Sometimes, their true character comes out and they are no longer erotically appealing.
But at no time in those conversations in those establishments am I going to be verbally abusive or degrading. It isn't in my character.
It is sad that technology has made it so easy for guys and girls alike to hide safely out of sight and sling trash.
To the ladies that travel, as previously mentioned, don't avoid a city simply because of a bad coed board. Just post an ad and don't participate in conversations on threads in that City. There are fine men all across this great country.
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04-26-2017, 11:23 AM
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Texas Tornado
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Guys have done it to me before. Calling me fat and things.
Even tho I'm nowhere near BBW I'm only 150.
The messed up part it that are usually ugly as hell and wouldn't have the balls to approach me or any other provider in public.
Bc they know they do Not have a chance in hell. Unless they pay!!
Usually their wife's don't have any comparison to the provider they're bashing.
Its always the old gray guys, or the tiny dick board trolls that post pics of them in the ROS and you're thinking "Is this MF serious!"
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04-26-2017, 02:03 PM
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I have been on the site for years but it's been as of recent that I've actually witnessed the, for lack of a better description, hate for the providers. It's mind boggling that these guys want our company but still bash us. If a particular lady isn't your type, fine, we all have preferences but to be outright disrespectful is so high school to me. The way some of these guys talk, you'd think they hated us. It's so juvenile & instead of upsetting myself, I simply ignore. I do agree that something should be done. Safety and respect go both ways in this
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04-26-2017, 02:53 PM
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"Moved on"..
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Originally Posted by Randall Creed
It seems to be a League of Supertrolls who are basically given immunity to run amok on this board. They contribute virtually nothing to the board but trollism, ruining threads, starting fights, and putting down providers. Dallas is a Troll Factory.
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YES! This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BUT AUSTIN is the worse case I've seen. At least our Dallas MODS are not the type of guys that pull the kind of crap that is going on there. I for one, can't fathom why the OWNERS and ADMINS are allowing this abuse to continue.
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04-26-2017, 04:04 PM
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Thugs love this sort of outlet. By its nature, the women here expose themselves and the thugs don't. If the men expose themselves, the thugs target them, as well.
Thugs also thrive on "reputation". To cross a thug in any way requires massive retaliation, since the point of thuggery is to prevent future challenges from anyone. That is why arguing with a thug is futile.
There is a specific case of this in Austin that boggles the mind.
Finally, in the real world, thugs get laid, and some men learn from this fact. The substantial subset of women who reward thuggery have some copability for training the thugs. If you want to minimize thuggery, reward nice guys, and not the thugs.
Some would say that you ought to ban the thugs. I disagree. Their examples of thuggery ought to be perpetually available. The fact that they are banned, and then come back under new anonymous handles is distressing.
One final note: In houston, a long time provider scheduled with someone who is notorious. Welcome wagon girls have an excuse, but experienced providers don't. If I were on the provider side, I would keep an evergreen thread with links to bad behaviour links in the womens only section.
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04-26-2017, 06:17 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Jul 31, 2015
Location: East Texas
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Originally Posted by kehaar
Thugs love this sort of outlet. By its nature, the women here expose themselves and the thugs don't. If the men expose themselves, the thugs target them, as well.
Thugs also thrive on "reputation". To cross a thug in any way requires massive retaliation, since the point of thuggery is to prevent future challenges from anyone. That is why arguing with a thug is futile.
There is a specific case of this in Austin that boggles the mind.
Finally, in the real world, thugs get laid, and some men learn from this fact. The substantial subset of women who reward thuggery have some copability for training the thugs. If you want to minimize thuggery, reward nice guys, and not the thugs.
Some would say that you ought to ban the thugs. I disagree. Their examples of thuggery ought to be perpetually available. The fact that they are banned, and then come back under new anonymous handles is distressing.
One final note: In houston, a long time provider scheduled with someone who is notorious. Welcome wagon girls have an excuse, but experienced providers don't. If I were on the provider side, I would keep an evergreen thread with links to bad behaviour links in the womens only section.
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What he said!!!
Wow, this is probably my shortest comment ever!!
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