the Saturn brand of cars

[VitaMan]

The female providers on this board have set their price very well. I just saw 1 ad at $ 500 for an hour. Working 1 hour per day would net well over $ 150 k per year.

[Oralist]

I know someone that had the Saturn SUV. Piece of crap even new. Noisy, underpowered and handled like a garbage truck. Another reason for their demise.

[GlobeSpotter]

Most GM products were slash are crap.

[O'Mike]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

Is it correct that all the electric and hybrid vehicles have very expensive electrical engine parts, and are astronomical to fix ?

Not to mention likely you can't do any work on them yourself.

It's the battery.

Prius owners usually find out after 100K miles that the battery is dying and needs replacement. That cost is usually over 1/2 the value of the vehicle. Think $4-7K.

Now if you have a Tesla, that is just a drop on the bucket. Tesla is trying to sell you a replacement battery soon after you buy the car, but not allow you to pick it up for 5-7 years.

If you needed one now, think $40,000+ to get that little problem fixed.

Generally an all electric car will cost you about $0.03 per mile in energy costs. (not including maintenance and other associated costs ).
A hybrid will cost you around $0.05 per mile in energy costs. (not including maintenance and other associated costs ).
Normal car about $0.10 per mile in energy costs. (not including maintenance and other associated costs ).




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[VitaMan]

That is good information. So when you buy a used Prius, if the battery has not been replaced, you can soon expect to pay $ 4 to 7 k for a replacement battery ? How many people have bought a used one, not knowing that ! It would seem the value for a used Prius would be way lower than a regular gas vehicle because of that.

I have heard if the actual electric parts fail, you can expect to pay almost as much as a new vehicle to get them replaced.

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

Is it correct that all the electric and hybrid vehicles have very expensive electrical engine parts, and are astronomical to fix ?

Not to mention likely you can't do any work on them yourself.

Not really. An electrician changed out the connectors for about $20 rather than paying the dealer $3K.

[VitaMan]

Per your figures, if you drive 100k miles, you save up to 7k. But then you have
to buy a new battery at a cost of $ 4 to 7k.

There is little savings then to operate an electric car, unless you unload it to somebody else before 100 k miles.

Originally Posted by O'Mike

It's the battery.

Prius owners usually find out after 100K miles that the battery is dying and needs replacement. That cost is usually over 1/2 the value of the vehicle. Think $4-7K.

Now if you have a Tesla, that is just a drop on the bucket. Tesla is trying to sell you a replacement battery soon after you buy the car, but not allow you to pick it up for 5-7 years.

If you needed one now, think $40,000+ to get that little problem fixed.

Generally an all electric car will cost you about $0.03 per mile in energy costs. (not including maintenance and other associated costs ).
A hybrid will cost you around $0.05 per mile in energy costs. (not including maintenance and other associated costs ).
Normal car about $0.10 per mile in energy costs. (not including maintenance and other associated costs ).
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[Guest123018-4]

I have a GM product that has well over 200K miles with very little trouble and expect another 100-150K before I replace the engine if then.
The secret to a long life is maintenance. Fix shit when it breaks and change your oil like it was sever duty.

If your check engine light comes on and your vehicle still seems to operate normally, it isn't. Fix it before things get worse.

[GlobeSpotter]

i agree with all ^^^^^ points. but the enemy of all enemies is the sun and it's dreadful UV rays.

They destroy the parts of a vehicle that would otherwise never wear out.

[Guest123018-4]

Not if you treat them properly.
You may have to replace your headlight lenses or assembly or you can self fix them.
Of course the best kept vehicle is one that is properly maintained and garaged.
I put new LED lamps in both my high beams and low beams as well as my DRLs.
I replace the assembly\s when I did that and aligned the headlights.

The biggest problem with most cars is the nut behind the wheel. There is more to owning a car than putting gas in it and driving. But some people like disposable cars.

[bbkid]

I'm damn late to the dance on this thread, but I agree with 2dogs. There is nothing wrong with Saturn cars any more than any other.
I happen to know dozens of current, and former, Saturn owners who drive (drove) them 200,000 miles +.
Few of you are aware that they were the "go to" car for RVers in that they could be towed 4 wheels down. It's a fad-type thing in the RV world, but they were the bomb for several years. The Honda CRV is the hot item now. Watch as you see oncoming motorhomes on the roads these days - most have CRV's and the now upcoming replacements - Chevrolet Equinox, Ford Edge, or Cadillac SRV. The choices for towable cars is quite small, so the lifestyle kind of evolves around the current hot toad (as it's called in the mh world).