!VI! Pimp Update (If not interested DON'T READ)

[sean rider]

The precise degree to which !VI! had any access or control of her ECCIE account before she left The Pimp is unknown. But everything I've seen is consistent with The Pimp making most if not all of the posts back then as well. He posted as her on Backpage as early as November 2013. The Pimp was clearly entangled with Eevee before then, posting as her as well. I see nothing in the !VI! posts that makes me think that this one or that one is not The Pimp in action.

Bottomline, as I (and a few others) have said all along !VI! didn't "out herself", and The Pimp did indeed try to ruin her (and I'd argue Eevee) by making fake posts, and The Pimp was indeed pimping her out at (as established above) personal gain, and The Pimp did indeed buy guns illegally...and none of this was a frame up.

This guy is a selfish user with a narcissistic streak who constantly lies about himself and others. His stories about being part asian, about having multiple personalities, about having various diseases, about being an important cosplay industry figure...all of them lies.

He trades in cowardly acts of revenge at the expense of the women who finally tire of his act. He's probably dangerous to the extent that this kind of ideation seemed to be driving him towards firearms.

I'm not sure a couple years in the Fed Pen will turn him around. But he deserves some kind of punishment for his several years of hurtful criminality.

[PeterBota]

Fed Pen ? State

[killswitch321]

Well well, once again, you fill us in about the on going situation which nobody cares about anymore. This tells me youre obsessed with this bitch more than anybody on the planet, except for that vi/steve person. Keep up the good work of making us not care anymore.

Har har

[Guest030824]

Killswitch
Just go away if this bores you.

[TheEccie214]

Certainly seems to be some validity to vi being wronged. If that's true hope she's able to leave this life behind and move on.

[killswitch321]

Originally Posted by tucson

Killswitch
Just go away if this bores you.

...and the sore subject about drama caused by a boring lay doesn't bore you at all, huh?

I feel sorry for you, kid. Excuse me, I'm getting twerking on my face.

[sean rider]

Originally Posted by killswitch321

...and the sore subject about drama caused by a boring lay doesn't bore you at all, huh?

I feel sorry for you, kid. Excuse me, I'm getting twerking on my face.

With over 8300 views in this thread alone, more than just about every recent thread, there are clearly many people who find this of interest.

What part of "This is an update. If the story is of no interest to you please read no further." do you not understand?

[sean rider]

Originally Posted by PeterBota

Fed Pen ? State

He's in a Federal facility under Federal charges being heard in Federal court. Why wouldn't he be be put in Federal rather than State prison?

[Luke Skywalker]

OP, I agree with your conclusions. Occam's razor principle. I'm just curious why he wasnt charged with pimping.

[TinMan]

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

OP, I agree with your conclusions. Occam's razor principle. I'm just curious why he wasnt charged with pimping.

Because she was complicit in those activities, up until she left him. Then he took over and stalked her.

[Luke Skywalker]

Originally Posted by TinMan

Because she was complicit in those activities, up until she left him. Then he took over and stalked her.

Still, my understanding is that Pimping (even with complicity) is a felony. If done against her will, then is Trafficking, which is even worse... Hence, my curiosity. Am I wrong about this?

[TinMan]

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

Still, my understanding is that Pimping (even with complicity) is a felony. If done against her will, then is Trafficking, which is even worse... Hence, my curiosity. Am I wrong about this?

If she was in control of her own account, and was posting the shit many of us think she was posting thoughout her career (i.e., prior to their breakup), that could create enough confusion to put a conviction in doubt once you get the case in front of the jury.

That's the fun part of the whole discussion. Was this the stereotypical pimp/victim story, or was it something more complicated?

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by sean rider

He's in a Federal facility under Federal charges being heard in Federal court. Why wouldn't he be be put in Federal rather than State prison?

Correct in almost all cases. Club Fed, though not all Federal penitentiaries are easy places to do time. Some are quite harsh. I suspect this guy would Warrant medium security. Maybe high. It's a pretty complicated system with lots of variables.

[sean rider]

Re: Why no simple pimping charges?

Keep in mind that the three charges here are the ones negotiated for a guilty plea. It may be that other potential charges were on the table and negotiated away.

Also these are Feds, and most simple pimping charges would be under state law.

What is not clear to me is how his state violations are going to be adjudicated.

[Luke Skywalker]

Originally Posted by sean rider

Re: Why no simple pimping charges?

Keep in mind that the three charges here are the ones negotiated for a guilty plea. It may be that other potential charges were on the table and negotiated away.

Also these are Feds, and most simple pimping charges would be under state law.

What is not clear to me is how his state violations are going to be adjudicated.

Makes sense.