a lover versus just fuckin?

[sydmo]

we all have our different "needs and wants" Most times I'm looking for a sweet Lover Versus that PSE bullshit. I'll admit, from time to time I just wanna fuck, but not so much anymore. Seems like the Ladies in our hobby world are more looking for that "stud horse fuckin" and it's just not my thing anymore. Is this a normal mid 50's thing? Men and Ladies?

[Raikage]

Maybe you should find yourself a woman who loves you so you can actually have that kind of sex, you know ... get in an actual relationship. These girls aren't paid to be A+ actresses.

[FirePhoenix]

Like I always say "This isn't a dating site ".

[sydmo]

a C minus actress will do most times. I do get it though. Thanks

[sydmo]

bullshit, I don't want a "relationship" I want a lover for an hour, most times two, I'm not cheap. It seems I have had to explain this to the Ladies, and then "kind of" apologize for what I want. How are my desires different from others? I'm not looking for true Love, just a couple hours of Fake Love Very few of the Ladies really get it.

[lizshue81]

Originally Posted by sydmo

bullshit, I don't want a "relationship" I want a lover for an hour, most times two, I'm not cheap. It seems I have had to explain this to the Ladies, and then "kind of" apologize for what I want. How are my desires different from others? I'm not looking for true Love, just a couple hours of Fake Love Very few of the Ladies really get it.

I think this sounds wonderful. And as far as being actresses goes it's really hard to maintain a lovemaking kind of act for an hour or two if you aren't at least a little genuine. I've been with girls who were putting on a show and it was lame. Find the ones who actually love you for that hour or two and stick with them. ...And you can tell. If you can't, have me join you for a double cuz I can tell right away.
Don't apologize.

[Claire She Blows]

Originally Posted by lizshue81

I've been with girls who were putting on a show and it was lame.

This happened to me a month ago with a very professional, upscale, traveling provider. Horrible experience. Ugh.

[OralPassion]

Sydmo, I 100% empathize!

I didn't join this site to bust a nut, I joined it to have boyfriend/girlfriend time now and then.
I joined it to adore, worship and please the beautiful art that is a woman.

I miss out on seeing a bunch of women because I want to talk prior to scheduling to see if we're on the same page and we'll BOTH enjoy the time.
But most don't care about a good match - they just want to do the deed and get their donation.
And there is nothing wrong with that, this is after all, a business.

It's just frustrating trying to find the one's that want a bfe/gfe session rather than a hooker/john session.
I know this is a generalization but my experience and observations have led me to conclude that the best chance of experiencing a bfe/gfe session is with the gals who have real-world full-time jobs and are here because they love bcd romance and figure why not pick up some extra coin while doing something enjoyable.

One Provider was on my mind throughout this writing - I hope she see's this thread and contributes her insight...

[ivy_rose]

I enjoy being a lover as you call it as I enjoy getting to know someone and having a connection. It's definitely the best part of this to me. However, I disagree that "pse bullshit" means that there can't be a connection. I understand the comparison because sometimes fucking is just fucking and there's acting involved but for me, "porn" fucking or even fetish sessions can mean feeling more sensual than a tender lovemaking session. Just wanted to throw that out there. Obviously everyone has their own preference.

[Claire She Blows]

I have a RW small business and use the hobby to help fund that (because my business doesn't make shit yet, lol).

I don't like PSE. I enjoy connecting with people

[Risn2TheOccasion]

Originally Posted by sydmo

bullshit, I don't want a "relationship" I want a lover for an hour, most times two, I'm not cheap. It seems I have had to explain this to the Ladies, and then "kind of" apologize for what I want. How are my desires different from others? I'm not looking for true Love, just a couple hours of Fake Love Very few of the Ladies really get it.

Both have their places. Being in my 50's, I do understand where you are coming from, Sydmo. The type you are looking for is out there. I have one lady I see for that type of experience. Even if she is acting....it is extremely convincing and satisfies my need for that type of session.

[russellevans]

Originally Posted by ivy_rose

but for me, "porn" fucking or even fetish sessions can mean feeling more sensual than a tender lovemaking session.

This is what a bad bitch sounds like fellas. This chick gets it.

[astronut]

Sydmo and OralPassion, I understand what you mean. Right now, I don't want the duties and responsibilities that come with a full-blown relationship, but I do want to feel some kind of emotional connection with a person that I'm going to be intimate with. Since "love" is off the table, I think that the connection has to come from related emotions, like mutual respect, kindness, empathy, and a genuine desire to please another human being.

There definitely are providers who understand men come see them to get more than just their physical needs met. Talking about the role of emotional needs in hobbying is deeply personal stuff, but I would love to hear the thoughts of some more providers if there are any willing to open up about it.

[David.Douchehurst]

Y'all know whut Ah luv in mah womb-men?

MAH MUTHAFUKKIN' DICK!!!!



All y'all touchy-feely fellahs needs ta figger out thet yer pubic skoolin' is over. This h'yar is an insty-toot uv grad-yoo-it sexucation. Show up un-pree-paired an' sum muthafukkah's a-gonna eat your skool lunch and punch ya inna dick 'till ya wise up! Thar's a sayin' thet tha most important thang in life is sincerity. Oncest yew kin fake thet, yew got it made. Yew ain't gonna find thet kinda skill inna bargain basement. And if'n yer clear thet yer lookin' fer True GFE with tha Illusion o' Passion when yew make contact, ain't no sensible fillies gonna tell ya ta fukk off 'cos yer bein' too specific onna activities. It's all 'bout cumm-yew-nick-ay-shun before tha meetin'-up. 'Speshully if'n yer partickular 'bout whut yew want.

[Iron Butterfly]

These days PSE is more likely to happen then the GFE both have been in the decline over the years.

To make love I would suspect you would need to be in love (both not just you!). Maybe your looking for the MLE (make love experience) good luck with that

IB