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SpeedRacerXXX · 11-10-2016, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Congratulations

If they pursue charges against her. He will pardon her. Not to mention the investigation with the clinton foundation

Trump would be the one pushing charges against her, as he said he would do if elected. So he would push charges against her then pardon her?

SpeedRacerXXX · 11-10-2016, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Oh I meant that I see the world different than you.
Immigration - My mom is foreign born - she became a US citizen -she is legal - so if you are here legally - there is nothing to be concerned about.
Women's issues - I don't see anything there either- he's not really religious - like Mike Huckabee.
Oh yes, he made a lot of promises but all Presidents do that - hopefully, he will do a lot of good.

Women's right to their own bodies, know primarily as abortion rights. I realize this is a very sensitive issue but the women I know are afraid of what Trump will push. They are well past their child-bearing years but have deep concern for the next generations. Hillary Clinton, if nothing else, fought hard for women's rights in the workplace. Do you support equal pay for equal work? Clinton would have gotten a law passed requiring that. Trump?

Immigration -- I don't know what Trump is saying today, he has changed his statements so often.

Yes, a lot of Presidents make promises. And when they renege on those promises they must be held accountable. Trump has 2 years before his first review -- the 2018 elections. Obama lost control of the House after 2 years in office. I certainly don't expect all of Trump's agenda to be passed in 2 years but part of it certainly. And after 4 years I expect every promise he made to the American people to be fulfilled or, just like every other President, he should be held accountable for it. If at that time I believe Trump has fulfilled his promises enough, I will vote for him just as I voted for George Bush.

Guest011117 · 11-10-2016, 07:27 PM

I don't really know what to do or where we are heading in this. A series of unfortunate events...

SpeedRacerXXX · 11-10-2016, 08:49 PM

Here are President-elect Trump's promises to the U.S. for the first 100 days in office. Good luck.

http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451...first-100-days

David.Douchehurst · 11-11-2016, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Yes, a lot of Presidents make promises. And when they renege on those promises they must be held accountable.

If'n he don't keep his promises about puttin' up a wall, dee-portin tha Messkins, repealin' Obamacare, bannin' Mooslims frum gittin inna USA,' punishin' gals gittin' aborshuns an' ree-peelin' Roe v. Wade, then he's jus' a lyin'-ass polly-tish-un laik all tha rest an' needs ta GO! Ah don't laik all tha sweet talk 'twixt him an' Obama lately. He better dee-port tha Kenyan back ta Africa 'r else they'll be hell ta pay!

Austin Ellen · 11-11-2016, 07:39 AM

Of course, I support equal pay for equal work. And Obama promised he would withdraw our troops from the middle east - we are still there. He was just plain clueless. And he was held accountable - his so called "legacy "is gone.

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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Women's right to their own bodies, know primarily as abortion rights. I realize this is a very sensitive issue but the women I know are afraid of what Trump will push. They are well past their child-bearing years but have deep concern for the next generations. Hillary Clinton, if nothing else, fought hard for women's rights in the workplace. Do you support equal pay for equal work? Clinton would have gotten a law passed requiring that. Trump?

Immigration -- I don't know what Trump is saying today, he has changed his statements so often.

Yes, a lot of Presidents make promises. And when they renege on those promises they must be held accountable. Trump has 2 years before his first review -- the 2018 elections. Obama lost control of the House after 2 years in office. I certainly don't expect all of Trump's agenda to be passed in 2 years but part of it certainly. And after 4 years I expect every promise he made to the American people to be fulfilled or, just like every other President, he should be held accountable for it. If at that time I believe Trump has fulfilled his promises enough, I will vote for him just as I voted for George Bush.

PrettyBoyG · 11-11-2016, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth White

I don't really know what to do or where we are heading in this. A series of unfortunate events...

I predict he will only have one term. This election was between two of the weakest candidates that I've seen in my lifetime. One getting investigated by the FBI and the other one is Batshit Crazy.

Austin Ellen · 11-11-2016, 10:07 AM

Well, based on your predictions - you know the one -Trump will never be President - I will say thank you for this prediction because you are so wrong all the time.

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoyG

I predict he will only have one term. This election was between two of the weakest candidates that I've seen in my lifetime. One getting investigated by the FBI and the other one is Batshit Crazy.

Zhivago52 · 11-11-2016, 10:37 AM

Obama destroyed the Democrat Party. Their followers have yet to realize it. Look at how many down ballot seats in state houses, governorships and in Congress, have been lost on his watch. The numbers are huge. They'll have a thin bench in 2020 unless the cadaver escapes prosecution and tries again.

On the flip side, the Bushes go away for a long time as well and I say that's a good thing. As Ann Coulter says, maybe Jeb! can still run to be the first woman president.

Passion2015 · 11-11-2016, 10:44 AM

You know, it is what it is. Give the guy a chance.

SpeedRacerXXX · 11-11-2016, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Of course, I support equal pay for equal work. And Obama promised he would withdraw our troops from the middle east - we are still there. He was just plain clueless. And he was held accountable - his so called "legacy "is gone.

And why were we in Iraq in the first place? Obama? No. When he took office there were about 270,000 troops in Iraq. Today less than 5,000. He came THISCLOSE to keeping this promise in my opinon. But I digress. We are not talking about Obama. He saved my retirement plans.

I do not expect Trump to keep all of his promises. I do expect him to try to keep most of them.
Lower taxes. Eliminate ISIS. Build that wall. Etc. At the end of 4 years EVERYONE should fairly evaluate his accomplishments and his failures and judge him as to whether or not he deserves a second term. Some people unfortunately already have their minds made up. I don't.

Yssup Rider · 11-11-2016, 12:29 PM

Yeah, building the wall is a shovel ready job...

Our esteemed Lt. DB Danny Goeb is ready to start building.

Drumpf is already walking back a lot of the horrific bullshit he used to capture the hearts and minds of the angry white voters. He's smart enough to know that BS ain't gonna play with the Congress.

Austin Ellen · 11-11-2016, 12:29 PM

Glad to hear that he saved your retirement plan and I think people are going to be surprised at what Trump can do - and he will be reviewed just like any other president.
Back to the troops - coming "this close" is like saying I may be pregnant - either you are or your not - Obama ran on that and he did not deliver therefore he did NOT fullfill his promise.

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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

And why were we in Iraq in the first place? Obama? No. When he took office there were about 270,000 troops in Iraq. Today less than 5,000. He came THISCLOSE to keeping this promise in my opinon. But I digress. We are not talking about Obama. He saved my retirement plans.

I do not expect Trump to keep all of his promises. I do expect him to try to keep most of them.
Lower taxes. Eliminate ISIS. Build that wall. Etc. At the end of 4 years EVERYONE should fairly evaluate his accomplishments and his failures and judge him as to whether or not he deserves a second term. Some people unfortunately already have their minds made up. I don't.

fun2come · 11-11-2016, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Passion2015

You know, it is what it is. Give the guy a chance.

and make sure "HE" follows through just as we would have watched "HER" to follow through:

http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451...first-100-days

Judgement day by the people for the people is in 2 years....

SpeedRacerXXX · 11-11-2016, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Glad to hear that he saved your retirement plan and I think people are going to be surprised at what Trump can do - and he will be reviewed just like any other president.
Back to the troops - coming "this close" is like saying I may be pregnant - either you are or your not - Obama ran on that and he did not deliver therefore he did NOT fullfill his promise.

Trump, according to the tax plan he laid out, has promised me a tax break of around $2400 a year (don't quote me on the exact number). If it comes in at maybe $2000 I'll call it mission accomplished. If I don't get one at all, mission failure. If "the wall" is only 80% complete in 4 years with plans to get it done, I will consider it mission accomplished. If it has not been started and no plans there to start it, mission failure. Same for something like ISIS. If Trump diminishes the threat of ISIS significantly but does not completely eliminate it, mission accomplished. I don't judge success and failure as all or nothing. Doing your best and coming up short is most times just as good. Sometimes unforeseen obstacles arise that are impossible to overcome.