IOP vs GFE...

[Rangerfrog09]

So this might be an odd question, but I haven't quite found a satisfactory answer so here goes. Is there a distinct difference between IOP and GFE? Or are they almost interchangable? Seems to me in research that GFE, according to most showcases, is simply like a combo meal menu item; you order one thing, you actually get this, this, and this. However most of the reviews (and how I originally viewed it) describes GFE as an experience (go figure...) and isdescribed as something awefully close to the definition of IOP. So the $64,000 question is, is GFE more of a menu item description and the nice things that men attribute to it should really be called IOP? Or is GFE really the actual "experience" that we all love and someone just gave it a fancy name in IOP? I realize this isn't exactly going to solve world hunger or anything, but it's an idea that's nestled in my brain and it just won't leave.

[Rangerfrog09]

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

[pmdelites]

some say GFE includes open mouth kissing, breast play, oral-genital play [preferably uncovered], full on intercourse. best to find out what the provider means when she lists "GFE".

some say IOP is the reaction she has & the sounds she makes when a guy is oralling pleasing her genitals or having full on intercourse.

i say that IOP starts w/ her first reply to your inquiry, continues w/ her incall and clothing then all the deliteful activities you two engage in, and ends after you leave. to me, is she passionate about ALL aspects of the encounter or just about picking up the financial gift? former = IOP, later = all about business.

now, a provider who has palpable IOP and provides a GFE experience??
that would be suckingly/fuckingly/orgasmingly deliteful!!!

[FireKitten]

GFE is mostly decent menu items, when strung together, give you a nice comfortable feeling that you were having a good time.

But IOP should really be a different thing, that she is crazy to fuck your brains out and can't get enough of you.

You can have one without the other, either or, or both if you are lucky.

[plove35]

Imo iop vs gfe works best when the hobbyist goes in without previous reviewers expectations. Go in have and have fun...the experience nce is ruin imo when I go in expecting certain things. I kike to.feel like each session is like a hook up or fwb

[rexdutchman]

I think they are interchangeable= the great times I have had have both BBBJ , DFK like an old girlfriend.

[Sir Lancehernot]

There aren't any standardized definitions. One man's GFE is another's PSE -- for example, I'd always thought that CIM was something that a girlfriend would be likely to do, but I've been rebuked here and told that, no, you shouldn't expect CIM from a GFE, that that's a PSE thing. Shrug.

My suggestion: Read reviews. Don't assign labels. Just see if what's described is something you'd enjoy. If so, go for it.

[TheEccie214]

GFE includes bareback sex. IOP means she doesn't let you see how disgusting she finds you.

[honeydavis]

I personally don't like to think of passion during a session as an illusion. In most cases I'm having just as enjoyable time as you are. I may be alone, but a lot of times I'm secretly sad to find out a client isn't single because then I know there's no chance of being asked out for dinner or a movie. So yeah, I would say some girls can provide IOP, and with others, it's something more.

[Olivia Nin]

I believe GFE suggest the provider will give more of an authentic and intimate experience as opposed to something like a BNG situation. Also, a GFE provider would be more likely to do dinners, vacations, and extended bookings that include just lounging around engaged in conversation or even napping together. A non GFE provider might just do what needs to be done and hit the road, not engage you in conversation at all or snuggle. The specific GFE activities are subjective and a matter of her personal tastes. As for IOP I believe this is a feeling you get from a provider where you truly know there is mutual pleasure and attraction. Her desire for you is palpable. You can tell she wants you by the way she looks in your eyes, her moans and sighs, and the response of her body. Sometimes the passion for you is not an illusion. Sometimes she just really wants to get off and you're the man for the job. Sometimes she's a fantastic actress. A truly passionate, skilled, and lustful provider, a woman who was built to BE a provider, and is fortunate enough to be very selective about her client base will have very few days where the passion is an illusion.

Xoxo Olivia Nin

[EastTexasGrown]

Lots of good answers.

This will reinforce a few of those.

IOP & GFE cannot be compared or debated against each other. You can compare and debate GFE, PSE, and GFE (Limited) against each other.

You can have IOP w/ GFE.
You can have IOP w/ PSE.
You can have IOP w/ GFE (Limited).

At least that's my view of those acronyms.

[Copierguy0]

IMHO: Y’all are all wrong: IOP is an ATTITUDE WITH PASSION, LUST IN HER EYES. Only the good providers can pull this off with every Troll that knocks on her door and set the MOOD.

NON-GFE = CBJ, NO PSE, NO KISSING, NO DATY, NO FIV, NO FIA, NO GREEK, NO NOTHING, MECHANICAL SESSION, just drop off donation and leave. The red light is always on. I have never seen IOP here.

LIMITED GFE = CBJ, (some providers might do BBBJ but you need to ask) NO PSE, NO KISSING, MECHANICAL SESSION, and you need to ask her what other NO’s there are. From one provider to another, the NO’s might be different in this category. LIMITED is code for proceed with caution, like a yellow light. I have never seen IOP here.

GFE = BBBJ, LFK, DFK, DATY, MSOG, FIV, FIA, SS, COT, COA, COF, CIM maybe, PASSION, GROPING, IOP maybe, some even BBBJCIMNQNS in this category. (Ask about Greek) GREEN light is on.

PSE = GFE and much more, FREAKY, GREEK, SWALLOW, CIM, SNOWBALLING, BONDAGE, PORN STYLE. IOP maybe. There are NO red, yellow, or green lights in this category. ALL 100 MPH HIGHWAY

CG

[milfy2002]

I always chuckle a little when I see the acronym IOP because unless a guy is downright repulsive any woman that is not completely jaded is going to exude genuine passion while making sweet love to him. In that case it is not an illusion at all.

In order for it to be an ILLUSION of passion it's implicit that the woman is faking it, for whatever reason.

I've always thought GFE was more about a set of menu items that you would expect out of a really nice girlfriend such as cuddling, LFK/DFK, BBBJ, multi-position FS, DATY, eye contact, and passion or the illusion of it.

I guess to me IOP is actually a menu item that is always included in GFE in the event that real passion happens to be lacking.

[Laura Lynn]

I agree with milfy. Without passion, would it really be GFE?

[milfy2002]

Originally Posted by Laura Lynn

I agree with milfy. Without passion, would it really be GFE?

Exactly! Without passion, or the illusion of it, I would have to label it limited GFE.