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You ask a very valid question. To be honest I'm a lil bit uneasy about trusting someone with any info. I know it's more of a problem on my part. At some point in time I'll either need to give in to some type of screening or scrap the idea of participation.
Enderwiggin is on point with what he said imo.
True story:
My very first time, I had no references, no P411 ... nothing. I had never done this before.
I contacted a very well known Provider with an outstanding reputation. Called her and explained the situation that I would like to book with her, but had no references.
To make her comfortable, I gave her the phone number and website of my business and told her to feel free to call at any time and ask for me. To my surprise, without me knowing it, she actually called, made an appointment, came in for services ... we provided something she wanted, and no one was the wiser.
A few days later, I got a text from her saying she was comfortable booking with me, but did not tell me what made her so comfortable until we had the session. Had a great session with her. A bit later, I then contacted another well known Provider with an outstanding reputation and used the first Provider as a reference. Since the first Provider was well known and gave me a very good reference, Provider #2 booked me with only the one reference. Then I got both of them to vouch for me on P411. Both are still friends who are now retired, but let me know when they're coming into town to visit.
So, if you do it the right way, you will only have to divulge your personal to one person ... you can't play this game without trusting someone at some point in time.
Don't pay attention to all the paranoid nonsense posted in this thread about Uber and license plates, etc. ... You only have to worry about that if you're sitting in the cheap seats. Ladies at the more professional end of the scale have no interest in surreptitiously collecting your personal info, but they do want to make sure they are protecting themselves.
At some point in time I'll either need to give in to some type of screening or scrap the idea of participation.
Wrong. There is no need to ever give any type of real personal info to a hooker.
What is the goal of screening? To make sure you are not a cop, and are capable of acting civilised during a session.
You can accomplish this without putting yourself in place to have a BSC hooker go nuclear on you or try to blackmail you.
So, what's the key? Patience and working your way up from to "no screening needed" crowd to the "everyone gets screened" crowd.
1). Go see 3 FBSM girls who have reviews on here. They require zero screening. Write reviews on them.
2). While most providers will not take BP massage girl reviews, you can always find either newer or some of the lets say, less busy, providers who will.
3). Once you have two of the easier providers as references, use those to see two providers who are on p411, and will sponsor you for a p411 account.
4). Based on those two, you can now set up a p411 account.
i). Despite what they say, use completely made up info. You will never need to show a real ID to a hooker to verify that account.
ii). Do not link any review board accounts to your p411 account. In fact do not ever provide any links between your p411 account and anything about review boards
iii). Do not use the same email accout on p411 that you use for any review boards
iv). Pay for the account with a vanilla visa you bought with cash. If the site wont take the card, you can call in and they will process over the phone
If you pay attention to to the advise on your car plates, you are good to go.
Seem like too much cloak and dagger or too much effort? Just ask the guys who have had BSC providers out them what they think.......
Wrong. There is no need to ever give any type of real personal info to a hooker.
What is the goal of screening? To make sure you are not a cop, and are capable of acting civilised during a session.
You can accomplish this without putting yourself in place to have a BSC hooker go nuclear on you or try to blackmail you.
So, what's the key? Patience and working your way up from to "no screening needed" crowd to the "everyone gets screened" crowd.
1). Go see 3 FBSM girls who have reviews on here. They require zero screening. Write reviews on them.
2). While most providers will not take BP massage girl reviews, you can always find either newer or some of the lets say, less busy, providers who will.
3). Once you have two of the easier providers as references, use those to see two providers who are on p411, and will sponsor you for a p411 account.
4). Based on those two, you can now set up a p411 account.
i). Despite what they say, use completely made up info. You will never need to show a real ID to a hooker to verify that account.
ii). Do not link any review board accounts to your p411 account. In fact do not ever provide any links between your p411 account and anything about review boards
iii). Do not use the same email accout on p411 that you use for any review boards
iv). Pay for the account with a vanilla visa you bought with cash. If the site wont take the card, you can call in and they will process over the phone
If you pay attention to to the advise on your car plates, you are good to go.
Seem like too much cloak and dagger or too much effort? Just ask the guys who have had BSC providers out them what they think.......
^^^ Just ask the guys who did something that made a "BSC" provider want to out them for revenge.
Instead of worrying about your car license plates, the best way to protect your identity is ... Don't Be An Asshole To The Ladies ... and be selective on who you book with ... Lay Down With Dogs, Wake Up With Fleas.
Well, c44 has a point. If anyone remembers the mikkifine/cumslut years, there are some crazy hos out there who collect their clients info. But by and large we know who they are and if you choose to see them, it's on you. For the most part, these hookers don't give a shit who you are beyond a) he's not a cop, and b) he doesn't have a history of being a scumbag (violent, creepy, and/or cheap).
Reasonable precautions? Absolutely. A labyrinth of email accounts, identities, routes and parking precautions. Not for me.
(1) What is your play price range? Are you looking for someone in the $300+ range or below?
(2) Is there something "wrong" with you ... like are you retarded or something, piss on yourself, obese, anything that is a physical "challenge" ... are you a jerk? ... Those are all factors.
Going see spa girls and writing spa girl Reviews isn't going to get you anywhere ... complete waste of time.
Go on P411 and find a lady who is Newbie Friendly and give her whatever screening info she requires and get on with it. Otherwise, stay home and jack off to porn.
see two providers who are on p411, and will sponsor you for a p411 account.
4). Based on those two, you can now set up a p411 account.
i). Despite what they say, use completely made up info. You will never need to show a real ID to a hooker to verify that account.
ii). Do not link any review board accounts to your p411 account. In fact do not ever provide any links between your p411 account and anything about review boards
iii). Do not use the same email accout on p411 that you use for any review boards
iv). Pay for the account with a vanilla visa you bought with cash. If the site wont take the card, you can call in and they will process over the phone
^^^ Pay attention ... these points are very good advice
My first encounter on here was a provider I chatted with in the chat room. We meet for drinks and hit it off went back to her room and I closed the deal. I was a nervous fuck in the beginning but she took care of me. It's all on how you approach the subject and a few stiff drinks dont hurt either.
be selective on who you book with ... Lay Down With Dogs, Wake Up With Fleas.
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Originally Posted by enderwiggin
by and large we know who they are.
Wow guys, that's just awesome. Exactly where does the OP, or any newbie for that matter, find these lists of blackmailers/BSC/outing whores? Oh that's right, there are no lists. Only by being on here for a good bit of time and constantly reading can you avoid the landmines. Even those that know of really problem hookers most of the time will never give out anything more than snide innuendos as they laugh at the mistakes the newbies make.
By all means 8254F, please take the following advice
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Originally Posted by StinkyFingers
give her whatever screening info she requires and get on with it..
The great thing is, if you google variations of "blackmailed by a prostitute" page after page of links don't come right?
After that, please track down the lists of hookers offering bare back full service and bang away. I mean, what could go wrong? According to the logic above, as long as you're selective on who you book with, you'll be able bareback every hooker in TX and never worry about an STD, or get blackmailed, or have a bad session, etc etc
Aren't you happy 8254F that with your complete lack of experience and knowledge you have this innate ability to correctly select good hookers?
Or.....you can start trusting the advice above right after they post a photo of their TX drivers license for all to see. Don't forget, as long as you don't say anything to upset anyone on here, you have nothing to worry about.
Wow guys, that's just awesome. Exactly where does the OP, or any newbie for that matter, find these lists of blackmailers/BSC/outing whores? Oh that's right, there are no lists. Only by being on here for a good bit of time and constantly reading can you avoid the landmines. Even those that know of really problem hookers most of the time will never give out anything more than snide innuendos as they laugh at the mistakes the newbies make.
By all means 8254F, please take the following advice
The great thing is, if you google variations of "blackmailed by a prostitute" page after page of links don't come right?
After that, please track down the lists of hookers offering bare back full service and bang away. I mean, what could go wrong? According to the logic above, as long as you're selective on who you book with, you'll be able bareback every hooker in TX and never worry about an STD, or get blackmailed, or have a bad session, etc etc
Aren't you happy 8254F that with your complete lack of experience and knowledge you have this innate ability to correctly select good hookers?
Or.....you can start trusting the advice above right after they post a photo of their TX drivers license for all to see. Don't forget, as long as you don't say anything to upset anyone on here, you have nothing to worry about.
WTF? ... C44's extrapolating from giving information for screening to be able to BBFS and STDs? ... C44 obviously has some "issues" ...
Selecting "good hookers" is not really all that difficult at the higher end of the scale. I had absolutely no experience, but I could tell by her excellent Reviews and the fact that the lady I selected never, ever posted anything on ECCIE, that giving her enough information to pass her screening was a reasonable risk if I wanted to see her, or anyone else for that matter. In fact, she eventually gave me her RL information.
8254F, PM me with your preference (amount you are willing to pay and what type of woman you like) and I'll give you some recommendations on ladies to contact that are Newbie friendly.
But, despite what C44 would like to make you believe, you simply are not going to get into the game if you have zero credible references without giving some information to make at least one lady comfortable.
The quality of your references counts to a lot of ladies ... It all depends on what you're looking for.
Seems like an unnecessary step in creating a positive vibe. Besides checking out physical appearances what kind of information exchange do you expect at a meet and greet. Lies communicated via a phone or text can be also be told face to face. It's not like your going to talk money for sex while F2F so I'm trying to understand what kind of screening while you eat (presuming it's a lunch or dinner) is actually being done.
I don't know just asking the question.
A woman knows within the first 10 seconds of meeting a man if she wants to sleep with him. Usually it's his dumbass that turns an unspoken yes into a spoken no. This is in the civilian world.
With that said, a woman can over dinner, read you like a book. We call it intuition, but it is really just an innate subconcious & concious formula of facial, body and verbal responses that let her know if we, the male, are full of shit or not. This is at most ninety-six percent not about your physical appearance and more about who you are.
Finally, yes, any move forward is still based on a donation, but some form of connection beyond that still needs to be made. She has plenty of dicknations to choose from. Think Firefly, a companion chooses who she will see.
A woman knows within the first 10 seconds of meeting a man if she wants to sleep with him. Usually it's his dumbass that turns an unspoken yes into a spoken no....
A woman knows within the first 10 seconds of meeting a man if she wants to sleep with him. Usually it's his dumbass that turns an unspoken yes into a spoken no. This is in the civilian world.
With that said, a woman can over dinner, read you like a book. We call it intuition, but it is really just an innate subconcious & concious formula of facial, body and verbal responses that let her know if we, the male, are full of shit or not. This is at most ninety-six percent not about your physical appearance and more about who you are.
Finally, yes, any move forward is still based on a donation, but some form of connection beyond that still needs to be made. She has plenty of dicknations to choose from. Think Firefly, a companion chooses who she will see.
I could simply say you can't always read people like a book but why? No fun so let me elaborate.
If we're talking P4P the first 10 sec theory doesn't really matter; if RW then yes. For most suburban family men you may be right but there are those of us who study human behavior and may be clinical in nature even diabolical at times when it comes to opposite sex conversation. For example like I'm doing now; I can tell you the Bible says women are the weaker vessel and the story of Adam and Eve sort of prove that. The Bible also says women are in subjection to man so if they wanted to those with this personality type could make you think anything they want because God created you inferior and in Subjection. Your sub-conscience could be fucked with in different ways to keep you off balance. Depending on how basic or complex your mindset is you could think I'm full of shit as you say or that I'm God's son. Just like me addressing you in a manner that may imply I think you are a woman but I may not actually believe you're a woman or that women are a weaker vessel. You're not likely to run into to many people like this male or female but many do exist.
there are those of us who study human behavior and may be clinical in nature even diabolical at times when it comes to opposite sex conversation.
For example like I'm doing now; I can tell you the Bible says women are the weaker vessel and the story of Adam and Eve sort of prove that. The Bible also says women are in subjection to man so if they wanted to those with this personality type could make you think anything they want because God created you inferior and in Subjection.
Your sub-conscience could be fucked with in different ways to keep you off balance. Depending on how basic or complex your mindset is you could think I'm full of shit as you say or that I'm God's son. Just like me addressing you in a manner that may imply I think you are a woman but I may not actually believe you're a woman or that women are a weaker vessel. You're not likely to run into to many people like this male or female but many do exist.
This scene for some reason comes to mind.
Jesus ... This guy is scary.
TFF! ... Using the Bible to prove anything is like using a Daffy Duck cartoon as proof that ducks can talk.
