Capitalism: Why Millennials are Embracing Socialism

[SassySue]

A commentary from CNBC. This is a very interesting article. You can easily see why the average working class american has become disgruntled with today's society and feels it favors those at the top.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/27/why-m...ommentary.html

And, it's "crony capitalism" as the culprit, not capitalism per se.

[Chung Tran]

ironically, the right-wingers call Obama a Socialist, even as "they" (the already ultra-wealthy) have gained more relative wealth vis-à-vis the "less fortunate" under Obama, than any group in the history of Mankind.

but Obama redux will probably take over the White House in January.. I think she will be exonerated by the FBI and every other investigative body..

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

ironically, the right-wingers call Obama a Socialist, even as "they" (the already ultra-wealthy) have gained more relative wealth vis-à-vis the "less fortunate" under Obama, than any group in the history of Mankind.

but Obama redux will probably take over the White House in January.. I think she will be exonerated by the FBI and every other investigative body..

Wall Street is 0zombie Land and the "Monster Vote" will prove you wrong!

[gfejunkie]

Anybody who thinks socialism is so great should go ask the people of Cuba, North Korea, or Venezuela how that's working out for them.

Oh, that's right. YOU CAN'T!

If you could they'd tell you that they're pretty much starving to death. Physically and spiritually.

[SassySue]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

ironically, the right-wingers call Obama a Socialist, even as "they" (the already ultra-wealthy) have gained more relative wealth vis-à-vis the "less fortunate" under Obama, than any group in the history of Mankind.

but Obama redux will probably take over the White House in January.. I think she will be exonerated by the FBI and every other investigative body..

Anyone with half a brain knows Obama is not a socialist, but merely a puppet. I voted for him because I felt he was the lesser of two evils. I am against what the GOP stands for. I view myself as a social democrat. I believe the Swedish style of government, or a social democracy, would be a better style of government. It's not perfect, but I think it would work better than the form of crony capitalism that we have in our country today. It's not communism and it's not pure socialism either. It actually has some elements of capitalism, yet at the same time, looks out for the whole of society. Here is the definition:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

[gfejunkie]

How's that hopey changey thing workin' out for ya?

[IIFFOFRDB]

SooeyPig... you smell like pig guts...

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by gfejunkie

Anybody who thinks socialism is so great should go ask the people of Cuba, North Korea, or Venezuela how that's working out for them.

Oh, that's right. YOU CAN'T!

If you could they'd tell you that they're pretty much starving to death. Physically and spiritually.

actually, Venezuela is the exception to this.

Maduro does not have a handle on his country any more. the oil revenue his country relied on has pretty much evaporated thanks to the Saudis.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

SooeyPig... you smell like pig guts...

Jesus, Iffy. You're getting as bad as Assup.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Jesus, Iffy. You're getting as bad as Assup.

BigOldWK... your vote for Gary is a vote for Hilarity, so FUCK OFF! and I hate that cunt... She's a stupid bitch... I don't even know what the other CUNT said because I have her on ignore...

Thoughts on the road. – William Lehman

Posted on September 16, 2015 | 521 Comments

Thoughts on the road. – William Lehman

I just completed a round trip run from western Washington to Pennsylvania in an RV. Most of this drive was along I-90, and I-80, through what the coasts derogatorily dismiss as “flyover country”. This gave me some opportunity for observation and reflection, during the drive, and this is the result.

I’m a Marine electrician lead (as well as an author) who comes from blue collar roots, and my dad was a member of the Teamsters union for most of my life, until his death. Some people have called me a traitor to my people for being anti-union. This trip helped remind me why I am.

It’s a not terribly well known fact that the Pacific North West, makes a LOT of money off exporting hay. Yes, hay. First quality green hay gets shipped by the bulk carrier loads from ports in WA, to Japan, South Korea, and the Middle East for the Horsey folks in those areas, and they pay TOP dollar. Farmers make a decent living off this trade. So I was surprised to see literally thousands of bales of hay (and we’re not talking the little 50lb bales that we used to buck growing up, no… these where the 800 lb. round bales that you need a machine to load, usually the size used for export, and large farm operations) rotting in the fields, all looking about a year old. Then I put it together.

I have good friends who are truckers. The Longshoreman strike and slowdowns on the west coast last fall hurt them big time. All of the truckers I know that work the docks own (with the bank) their own rigs. By the way, those suckers ain’t cheap. They cost about as much as a house. So my friends basically have two mortgages to maintain, one for their house, and the other for their truck. If they’re not hauling loads, they’re hemorrhaging money like it’s going out of style. (or like they’re congressmen) guys lost their trucks over this.

There was a big thing in the local papers because a couple of the farm co-ops dumped hundreds of thousands of pounds of apples that were destined for overseas for the same reason. They couldn’t ship them overseas, and if they put them on the US market the price would drop so low that they wouldn’t even break even after shipping costs.

What’s that? You in the back with the occupy something T-shirt?

“How dare they throw away food, while people are going hungry” you ask?

Well sparky, it’s like this. The farmers are going hungry too. They get a pay day once or twice a year, and that’s from selling their crop. They have to make the payments on all their REALY EXPENSIVE equipment, pay their employees, including the guys that are demanding $15 an hour as the new minimum wage, out of that one or two paychecks a year, and pay their mortgage, and put enough back to feed the family for the year. So they (like any prudent business man) insure their crops. If they don’t sell, or are destroyed, the insurance pays off. (not anything like full value, but enough that maybe they don’t lose the farm this year) If they sell at a loss, the insurance doesn’t pay. And if they give the food away, not only does the insurance not pay, but who’s going to pay the truckers to take it from where the food is, to where the mouths are? (Yes, I have a point, and I’m getting there, I just need to give you the back ground)

Well, the thirty or so shiploads of hay that I saw all date from about the same time frame. So here’s another layer of people hurt I theorize( if there’s any WA, ID, MT, or NB hay farmers that read this and can tell me of a different reason that millions of dollars of hay was allowed to mold, I’m all ears) all because of a strike that didn’t, in the end, really get the rank and file union member much of anything. (It got the union more power though, and that’s what’s important… to the union)

My dad was a teamster during the great Teamster strike of the early 70s. His team got along great with management, where happy with their pay and working conditions, and didn’t want to strike. But some big guys came down from Detroit in a couple Caddies, looked around and said “Dwayne, The union is all going on strike, youse gotta go on strike too.”

“But we don’t have anything we want to strike FOR.”

“Do it for youse families.”

“What do you mean by that?”

“How would youse feed your families if this place was to burn to the ground? If you was to be kicked out of da union, and your little boy was to get hurt bad, how would you pay medical expenses? Oh and youse guys gotta actually walk the picket line or youse don’t get your strike pay”

Then the goons in the caddies drove back to Detroit, and dad and the rest walked the picket lines. People who wildcatted that strike where hurt or killed… I remember one guy was hauling dynamite for the coal mines in KY. The sniper that shot his truck hit the load… It cratered the road.

Dad died in harness about 20 years ago. Mom got the princely sum of 28 bucks a month as survivor benefits until she remarried. Tell me why I should support the union?

Another observation is that pretty much all of my leftist friends (yes I have friends from the far left, I view them as slightly retarded, but love them anyway) have been freaking out over the eminent demise of the European Honey Bee, and thus over the inevitable death of all life on earth… Now that ignores that fact that it’s the “European Honey Bee” and not native to the Americas. Somehow life in the Americas managed to continue to exist before European immigrants brought the Honey bee to the continents. Still, if you talk to the left Honey bees are doomed, and with them, the entire biosphere, all due to Monsanto, or Nicoloid gene splicing, or whatever the current evil is, that is causing CCD (colony collapse disorder)… If you do a casual search of the Web for bee population data you’ll find nothing but doom. But on the drive, I counted about 100 hives an hour while going though agricultural areas, most in groups of 6-10 hives, all with multiple supers under the hive. Well, unless ALL the bees in North America are on the I-80, US 28, and I-90 corridor, (which I doubt) the gloom and doom just doesn’t seem to match reality.

SO I dug a little deeper… Yup, if you look at the propaganda on Bee populations, it’s all bad, but if you look at the HONEY HARVEST, it’s been increasing for several years (since 2004) and in those numbers (but surprisingly enough NOT in the numbers on bee population, even though they’re from the same office) there are more hives in cultivation this year than last, and that holds true since 2004! http://usda.mannlib.cornell.edu/Mann...ocumentID=1191 HUMM.

Finally, I’m viewed by those aforementioned liberals as a rabid frothing at the mouth conservative. Well, I’m starting to feel like Marten L. King jr. on that. Because I hate to break it to the folks from both coasts, and the really big cities in between, (Denver, Austin, I’m looking at you here) but you folks really want to talk to me, because you DON’T want to talk to Malcom X.

I went hunting in MT a couple years ago. Talking with my Guide and some of the other locals, I felt like I was the liberal in the room, and practically in the barking Moonbat category. (These folks where ready to start the revolution tomorrow) Now I filed that under the category of “These guys live out in the back of beyond, they’re outliers statistically”. On the drive to and from the East Coast, I paid attention to the billboards and bumper-stickers. Folks, the people in “Fly over” country are PISSED, from the guy that guides hunters, to the mayors of towns and cities, to state senators congressmen and Governors who are voting to arrest and imprison federal law enforcement officials for enforcing federal gun laws that don’t agree with state law.

You guys (the left) really want to stop pushing quite so hard. The political pendulum has never, in the history of humanity, stayed on one side of a swing. The back lash from over reach has always been proportionate to how far off center it went before coming back. (Hint, that’s what started the whole prohibition thing, and it’s also what started the 60s, was backlashes) Well right now we’re staring at a whole hell of a lot of the country (about 80-90% of the land mass, as well as about 50% of the population) that is FED UP. You really don’t want those guys to decide that the only way to fix it is to burn it down and start over… REALLY! Most of these folks are vets, and the children of vets, they’ve had guns in their hands since middle school or before, or they’re still serving either in the regulars, the reserves, or the NG. If it goes to armed insurrection, even if the left wins, (highly damn unlikely) it will be a mess worse than reconstruction, worse than the Balkans. For the love of the country that I’ve served for over three decades, start seeking peace now.

https://accordingtohoyt.com/2015/09/...illiam-lehman/

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by SassySue

Anyone with half a brain knows Obama is not a socialist, but merely a puppet. I voted for him .....

.. because you knew he was a "puppet" .... the first time?

Why did you vote for him the second time?

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by SassySue

Anyone with half a brain knows Obama is not a socialist, but merely a puppet. I voted for him because I felt he was the lesser of two evils. I am against what the GOP stands for. I view myself as a social democrat. I believe the Swedish style of government, or a social democracy, would be a better style of government. It's not perfect, but I think it would work better than the form of crony capitalism that we have in our country today. It's not communism and it's not pure socialism either. It actually has some elements of capitalism, yet at the same time, looks out for the whole of society. Here is the definition:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

Too bad YOU never meet woomby when he was posting here. YOU two would have hit it off real well , since he too was a proponent of the " social democrats " ( lazy communist leeching thieves, to the rest of us that really do work ! ) . He, too, extolled the greatness of Sweden. Mebbe YOU could have kept him from running off with Big Sir and breaking his butt buddy EKIM'S heart !

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

.. because you knew he was a "puppet" .... the first time?

Why did you vote for him the second time?

The Gruberite prolly couldn't stand the thought of her lying liberal " friends " calling her a racist if she didn't vote for o'idiot a second time.

[SassySue]

Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

The Gruberite prolly couldn't stand the thought of her lying liberal " friends " calling her a racist if she didn't vote for o'idiot a second time.

I voted for him because I didn't want the GOP candidate for President, simple. He was the lesser of two evils. Same reason I will vote for Hillary. I do not want the GOP in control of the House and Senate. They have too much control. There needs to be more compromise.

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by SassySue

Anyone with half a brain knows Obama is not a socialist, but merely a puppet. I voted for him because I felt he was the lesser of two evils. I am against what the GOP stands for. I view myself as a social democrat. I believe the Swedish style of government, or a social democracy, would be a better style of government. It's not perfect, but I think it would work better than the form of crony capitalism that we have in our country today. It's not communism and it's not pure socialism either. It actually has some elements of capitalism, yet at the same time, looks out for the whole of society. Here is the definition:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

So you intentionally voted for a puppet. Now I do believe in voting for the lesser of the two evils, but politically a puppet is the lowest you can go. Clinton on the other hand is not only a puppet but she has a little deviance mixed in with it. She's like Chucky with a pair of tits. You need to get your act together and reevaluate the decisions you've been making.


Jim