Dorthy_Monroe's last points issued: an objective assessment.

[TheCat'sMeow]

Originally Posted by Tony Gambino

too most guys except you......but hey find one that looks like her and just call her dorthy......

^^^^^^^



I think he has.

[Lindsay Lee]

Originally Posted by dearhunter

She is confusing stereotype for racist.

Asians having tiny dicks is a stereotype like blacks having huge dicks........I don't see blacks bitching about it..........why should asians?

I decided to look it up, and found this at the very top
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DM's constant remarks relating to "Asians" and also making statements saying I wouldn't waste my finger strokes on a "Asian" seems pretty racial related to me.



First, the definition. According to the Oxford Dictionary a racist is someone who believes:

each race or ethnic group possesses specific characterisitics, abilities, or qualities that distinguish it as inferior or superior to another such group.. Like a dick size... Like saying Tiny winky Asian dick...

Notice that it is a belief not a feeling. Advanced stages can lead to open hatred, even violence. More common are these symptoms:

They believe that whites are naturally better than blacks – more intelligent, more moral, more trustworthy, more beautiful, more hard-working and so on. Like if they think whites are Basically Good while blacks are not. You know these people are racist because this is pretty much a restatement of the definition.
They believe stereotypes about blacks. The bad stereotypes, at least, fit the definition of racism.
They use the n-word, racist slurs or tell racist jokes – meaning they feel the need to disrespect blacks. Why is that? If they do it against Asians or Latinos, then most likely they are racist against blacks too.

[Victoriajolie]

Originally Posted by Lindsay Lee

I decided to look it up, and found this at the very top
¥¥¥¥¥¥¥¥

DM's constant remarks relating to "Asians" and also making statements saying I wouldn't waste my finger strokes on a "Asian" seems pretty racial related to me.



First, the definition. According to the Oxford Dictionary a racist is someone who believes:

each race or ethnic group possesses specific characterisitics, abilities, or qualities that distinguish it as inferior or superior to another such group.. Like a dick size... Like saying Tiny winky Asian dick...

Notice that it is a belief not a feeling. Advanced stages can lead to open hatred, even violence. More common are these symptoms:

They believe that whites are naturally better than blacks – more intelligent, more moral, more trustworthy, more beautiful, more hard-working and so on. Like if they think whites are Basically Good while blacks are not. You know these people are racist because this is pretty much a restatement of the definition.
They believe stereotypes about blacks. The bad stereotypes, at least, fit the definition of racism.
They use the n-word, racist slurs or tell racist jokes – meaning they feel the need to disrespect blacks. Why is that? If they do it against Asians or Latinos, then most likely they are racist against blacks too.

Absolutely agree..While people make and can make their preferences of who they see or want to see..I think because stéréotype are usually toward other ethnicities this seem to be taken lightly ..I hear far more often gents getting upset that a lady see AA than one that doesnt see east indians and asian.That her comments go beyond stereoptyping..
She called someone out for misleading her ethnicity so that would mean that because someone may have a bit of an appearance of been asians she would refuse them..For me that is racist..While she can be racist..These comments on the board constantly called for it.

As for all that comments she can be on every sections picking fights...Not surprise you guys love when girls fight..You entertain the idea of two chicks fighting in the mud naked.The entertainment of that drama is far more fun...
I still believe she deserved it.If it was my soly or main way to avertise and i have 2 or 3 points left as result of violations of guideline..I wouldn't seat in front of the pc and still typing...And fighting..
If she need ways to advertise herself aside of the weekly advertising section i'm sure she could have start a tread outrageous or controversional as she like these as so far i haven't seen her contributating in any positive treads as i guess its not her style...To reach for an audience....She sure is doing that now on behalf of an other while banned..

[Guest032117]

http://sociology.about.com/od/Ask-a-...and-Racism.htm

What's the difference between prejudice and racism?

By Nicki Lisa Cole, Sociology Expert
Updated May 01, 2015.

"Recently I had a conversation with a white man in his fifties who took issue with the n-word being considered unspeakable, sparked by this post on Racism Review. His problem with the strong reaction many black people have to this word, especially when directed at them as an insult by white people, is rooted in his belief that the n-word is an insult like any other. He suggested that using it is no different than calling someone a “dumb blond,” and that people need to “move on” from believing that race and racism are issues that deserve attention in today’s world.
This conversation alerted me to the importance of clearly delineating the differences between prejudice and racism.

From a sociological standpoint, the dumb blond stereotype, and the jokes that celebrate and reproduce it, can be considered a form of prejudice. The Oxford English dictionary defines prejudice as a “preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience,” and this resonates with how sociologists understand the term. Quite simply, it is a pre-judgemhent that one levies of another that is not based in reality.

The man I had this conversation with argued that as a blond person of German heritage, he had experienced pain in his life due to this form of prejudice aimed at blond people. While that may be true, it is not true that calling someone the n-word is equivalent to, and no more harmful or noteworthy, than calling someone a dumb blond. Sociology can help us understand why.

While calling someone a dumb blond might result in feelings of frustration, irritation, discomfort, or even anger for the person targeted by the insult, that’s about where the negative implications of this prejudice end.

There is no research to support the hypothesis that hair color might influence one’s access to rights and resources in society, like college admission, ability to buy a home in a particular neighborhood, access to employment, or likelihood that one will be stopped by the police. This form of prejudice, most often manifested in bad jokes, is not consequential from a sociological standpoint.

By contrast, the n-word, a term popularized by white Americans during the era of African enslavement, encapsulates a wide swath of disturbing racial prejudices, like the idea that black people are savage, dangerous brutes prone to criminality; that they lack morals and are compulsively hyper-sexual; and that they are stupid and lazy. The wide-sweeping and deeply detrimental implications of this term, and the prejudices it reflects and reproduces, make it vastly different from insulting a blond for being dumb. The n-word was used historically, and still used today, to cast black people as second class citizens who do not deserve, or who have not earned, the same rights and privileges enjoyed by others in American society. This makes it racist, and not simply prejudiced, as defined by sociologists.

Race scholars Howard Winant and Michael Omi define racism as a way of representing or describing race that “creates or reproduces structures of domination based on essentialist categories of race.” Racism begets a structure of domination based on race. Because of this, the n-word is not simply a prejudice, like the suggestion that blonds are dumb, but is racist, as it suggests that black people are inferior to white people, and in the minds of many, to people of other races too. The term reflects and reproduces a hierarchy of racial categories and peoples, and black people are placed at the bottom of this hierarchy.

Use of the n-word and the still widespread belief--though perhaps subconscious or semi-conscious--that black people are dangerous, sexual predators and sluts, and pathologically lazy and deceitful, both fuel and justify structural inequalities of race that plague society. The racial prejudices encapsulated in the n-word are manifested in the disproportionate policing, arrest, and incarceration of black men and boys (and increasingly black women); in racial discrimination in hiring practices; in the lack of media and police attention devoted to crimes against black people as compared with those committed against white women and girls; and, in the lack of economic investment in predominantly black neighborhoods and cities, among many other problems that result from systemic racism.

While many forms of prejudice are troubling, not all forms of prejudice are equally consequential. Those that beget structural inequalities, like prejudices based in gender, sexuality, race, nationality, and religion, for example, are far more troubling and worthy of critical address by sociologists."

[Lindsay Lee]

Originally Posted by YummyMarie

http://sociology.about.com/od/Ask-a-...and-Racism.htm

What's the difference between prejudice and racism?

By Nicki Lisa Cole, Sociology Expert
Updated May 01, 2015.

"Recently I had a conversation with a white man in his fifties who took issue with the n-word being considered unspeakable, sparked by this post on Racism Review. His problem with the strong reaction many black people have to this word, especially when directed at them as an insult by white people, is rooted in his belief that the n-word is an insult like any other. He suggested that using it is no different than calling someone a “dumb blond,” and that people need to “move on” from believing that race and racism are issues that deserve attention in today’s world.
This conversation alerted me to the importance of clearly delineating the differences between prejudice and racism.

From a sociological standpoint, the dumb blond stereotype, and the jokes that celebrate and reproduce it, can be considered a form of prejudice. The Oxford English dictionary defines prejudice as a “preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience,” and this resonates with how sociologists understand the term. Quite simply, it is a pre-judgemhent that one levies of another that is not based in reality.

The man I had this conversation with argued that as a blond person of German heritage, he had experienced pain in his life due to this form of prejudice aimed at blond people. While that may be true, it is not true that calling someone the n-word is equivalent to, and no more harmful or noteworthy, than calling someone a dumb blond. Sociology can help us understand why.

While calling someone a dumb blond might result in feelings of frustration, irritation, discomfort, or even anger for the person targeted by the insult, that’s about where the negative implications of this prejudice end.

There is no research to support the hypothesis that hair color might influence one’s access to rights and resources in society, like college admission, ability to buy a home in a particular neighborhood, access to employment, or likelihood that one will be stopped by the police. This form of prejudice, most often manifested in bad jokes, is not consequential from a sociological standpoint.

By contrast, the n-word, a term popularized by white Americans during the era of African enslavement, encapsulates a wide swath of disturbing racial prejudices, like the idea that black people are savage, dangerous brutes prone to criminality; that they lack morals and are compulsively hyper-sexual; and that they are stupid and lazy. The wide-sweeping and deeply detrimental implications of this term, and the prejudices it reflects and reproduces, make it vastly different from insulting a blond for being dumb. The n-word was used historically, and still used today, to cast black people as second class citizens who do not deserve, or who have not earned, the same rights and privileges enjoyed by others in American society. This makes it racist, and not simply prejudiced, as defined by sociologists.

Race scholars Howard Winant and Michael Omi define racism as a way of representing or describing race that “creates or reproduces structures of domination based on essentialist categories of race.” Racism begets a structure of domination based on race. Because of this, the n-word is not simply a prejudice, like the suggestion that blonds are dumb, but is racist, as it suggests that black people are inferior to white people, and in the minds of many, to people of other races too. The term reflects and reproduces a hierarchy of racial categories and peoples, and black people are placed at the bottom of this hierarchy.

Use of the n-word and the still widespread belief--though perhaps subconscious or semi-conscious--that black people are dangerous, sexual predators and sluts, and pathologically lazy and deceitful, both fuel and justify structural inequalities of race that plague society. The racial prejudices encapsulated in the n-word are manifested in the disproportionate policing, arrest, and incarceration of black men and boys (and increasingly black women); in racial discrimination in hiring practices; in the lack of media and police attention devoted to crimes against black people as compared with those committed against white women and girls; and, in the lack of economic investment in predominantly black neighborhoods and cities, among many other problems that result from systemic racism.

While many forms of prejudice are troubling, not all forms of prejudice are equally consequential. Those that beget structural inequalities, like prejudices based in gender, sexuality, race, nationality, and religion, for example, are far more troubling and worthy of critical address by sociologists."

Some of her comments were Racist. They may have been funny to some, but maybe they were not so funny to the ones she was making fun of. YM, what would her reason be for saying she wouldn't waste her finger stroke on a "Asian" ?????

[Victoriajolie]

Originally Posted by YummyMarie

http://sociology.about.com/od/Ask-a-...and-Racism.htm

What's the difference between prejudice and racism?

By Nicki Lisa Cole, Sociology Expert
Updated May 01, 2015.

"Recently I had a conversation with a white man in his fifties who took issue with the n-word being considered unspeakable, sparked by this post on Racism Review. His problem with the strong reaction many black people have to this word, especially when directes at them as an insult by white people, is rooted in his belief that the n-word is an insult like any other. He suggested that using it is no different than calling someone a “dumb blond,” and that people need to “move on” from believing that race and racism are issues that deserve attention in today’s world.
This conversation alerted me to the importance of clearly delineating the differences between prejudice and racism.

From a sociological standpoint, the dumb blond stereotype, and the jokes that celebrate and reproduce it, can be considered a form of prejudice. The Oxford English dictionary defines prejudice as a “preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience,” and this resonates with how sociologists understand the term. Quite simply, it is a pre-judgemhent that one levies of another that is not based in reality.

The man I had this conversation with argued that as a blond person of German heritage, he had experienced pain in his life due to this form of prejudice aimed at blond people. While that may be true, it is not true that calling someone the n-word is equivalent to, and no more harmful or noteworthy, than calling someone a dumb blond. Sociology can help us understand why.

While calling someone a dumb blond might result in feelings of frustration, irritation, discomfort, or even anger for the person targeted by the insult, that’s about where the negative implications of this prejudice end.

There is no research to support the hypothesis that hair color might influence one’s access to rights and resources in society, like college admission, ability to buy a home in a particular neighborhood, access to employment, or likelihood that one will be stopped by the police. This form of prejudice, most often manifested in bad jokes, is not consequential from a sociological standpoint.

By contrast, the n-word, a term popularized by white Americans during the era of African enslavement, encapsulates a wide swath of disturbing racial prejudices, like the idea that black people are savage, dangerous brutes prone to criminality; that they lack morals and are compulsively hyper-sexual; and that they are stupid and lazy. The wide-sweeping and deeply detrimental implications of this term, and the prejudices it reflects and reproduces, make it vastly different from insulting a blond for being dumb. The n-word was used historically, and still used today, to cast black people as second class citizens who do not deserve, or who have not earned, the same rights and privileges enjoyed by others in American society. This makes it racist, and not simply prejudiced, as defined by sociologists.

Race scholars Howard Winant and Michael Omi define racism as a way of representing or describing race that “creates or reproduces structures of domination based on essentialist categories of race.” Racism begets a structure of domination based on race. Because of this, the n-word is not simply a prejudice, like the suggestion that blonds are dumb, but is racist, as it suggests that black people are inferior to white people, and in the minds of many, to people of other races too. The term reflects and reproduces a hierarchy of racial categories and peoples, and black people are placed at the bottom of this hierarchy.

Use of the n-word and the still widespread belief--though perhaps subconscious or semi-conscious--that black people are dangerous, sexual predators and sluts, and pathologically lazy and deceitful, both fuel and justify structural inequalities of race that plague society. The racial prejudices encapsulated in the n-word are manifested in the disproportionate policing, arrest, and incarceration of black men and boys (and increasingly black women); in racial discrimination in hiring practices; in the lack of media and police attention devoted to crimes against black people as compared with those committed against white women and girls; and, in the lack of economic investment in predominantly black neighborhoods and cities, among many other problems that result from systemic racism.

While many forms of prejudice are troubling, not all forms of prejudice are equally consequential. Those that beget structural inequalities, like prejudices based in gender, sexuality, race, nationality, and religion, for example, are far more troubling and worthy of critical address by sociologists."

Well Marie
i think you could help and make it understand to your friend...As other comments completly fall into this...From what i remember in her showcase she call fag any men that would like their ass to be play with..
The reality is far more than 50% like their ass to be play with on those maybe and i say maybe 5% would be incline to see a men the rest are purely woman lover..

You friend was and is racist..And a very judgemental person without discernament.While she can and may be...On this board its against guidelines especially when one express far more often it.If someone has a sharp tongue she should assume her acts..

[Guest032117]

Once again, your feelings about her and distaste for her views are completely irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Prejudice and racism are not one in the same. Again, your assessment of her views are not the topic of this thread.

Originally Posted by dearhunter

Tinman, DM was the only one to receive points in the thread after the warning.........with the exception of one hijack for something posted that had nothing to do with the topic. That infraction was not given by NYr.

The facts point to an uneven hand in which Dorthy was the sole target. You have accepted this because you don't agree with her board persona as a whole. That is like saying that Donald Trump does not deserve to run for president.

Her presence on this board should not be dependent on your like of her.

[Guest032117]

Originally Posted by VictoriaJolie

Well Marie
i think you could help and make it understand to your friend...As other comments completly fall into this...From what i remember in her showcase she call fag any men that would like their ass to be play with..
The reality is far more than 50% like their ass to be play with on those maybe and i say maybe 5% would be incline to see a men the rest are purely woman lover..

You friend was and is racist..And a very judgemental person without discernament.While she can and may be...On this board its against guidelines especially when one express far more often it.If someone has a sharp tongue she should assume her acts..

Also, your comprehension of the article was off based on the bold area you highlighted. Yes, Dorthy is prejudice and judgemental. No, she is not racist.

Again, off topic.

[Lindsay Lee]

Originally Posted by YummyMarie

Once again, your feelings about her and distaste for her views are completely irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Prejudice and racism are not one in the same. Again, your assessment of her views are not the topic of this thread.



The facts point to an uneven hand in which Dorthy was the sole target. You have accepted this because you don't agree with her board persona as a whole. That is like saying that Donald Trump does not deserve to run for president.

Her presence on this board should not be dependent on your like of her.

And I don't believe anyone mentioned ANYTHING about disliking her!! Don't put words in my mouth!! Maybe she could have received points for being RACIST???? Think about that


I HAVE NOT said I don't like her on any of my post. I don't line slot of the post she makes and I don't like her RACIST remarks.

[Lindsay Lee]

Originally Posted by YummyMarie

Once again, your feelings about her and distaste for her views are completely irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Prejudice and racism are not one in the same. Again, your assessment of her views are not the topic of this thread.



The facts point to an uneven hand in which Dorthy was the sole target. You have accepted this because you don't agree with her board persona as a whole. That is like saying that Donald Trump does not deserve to run for president.

Her presence on this board should not be dependent on your like of her.

And I don't believe anyone mentioned ANYTHING about disliking her!! Don't put words in my mouth!! Maybe she could have received points for being RACIST???? Think about that


I HAVE NOT said I don't like her on any of my post. I don't like alot of the post she makes and I don't like her RACIST remarks.

[Guest032117]

I mispoke. Your (general) dislike for her posts and views...etc...

[Victoriajolie]

Originally Posted by Lindsay Lee

And I don't believe anyone mentioned ANYTHING about disliking her!! Don't put words in my mouth!! Maybe she could have received points for being RACIST???? Think about that


I HAVE NOT said I don't like her on any of my post. I don't like alot of the post she makes and I don't like her RACIST remarks.

I dislike the persona "she want to display" on the board..I cannot dislike as a person has i never met her...My comment wasn't off base..You keep wanted to bring how unfair her points distribution were ..Where i don't believe you are right
We can agree and disagree..Point is it got her ban..No one point not two posts..Severals..I don't even have to justify that you wouldn't have done what she in her situation..Your signature say it

the bold above trully represent how i feel but maybe i failed to explained myself proprely as i am french..
However it doesn't mean i don't understand your quote..I do

[Guest032117]

One of her last two posts got her pointed, as was revealed by NYr. Her ban is not the issue. The uneven hand in pointing her and only her is the issue here.

You are right about my signature. I stand by it. When she is out of line, I have nothing to say on the matter. When she is not out of line, and the moderator involved is obviously out of line, you get a thread like this one by yours truly. The issue warrants a spotlight, and I am happy to point it at what needs to come to light.

If you want to start your own crusade against freedom of speech and limiting it on this board, be everyone's guest and start your own thread.

[corona]

Originally Posted by YummyMarie

One of her last two posts got her pointed, as was revealed by NYr.

NYr never said which of her posts earned her the points. The truth is, you don't know that.

Originally Posted by YummyMarie

Her ban is not the issue.

Of course it is. Had she not had ~23 points earned already, those last two points wouldn't have mattered. Unless she told you, you wouldn't even have known she earned them.

Originally Posted by YummyMarie

If you want to start your own crusade against freedom of speech and limiting it on this board...

As has been stated before, there is no FREEDOM OF SPEECH on this website. The 1st amendment only applies to the federal government limiting your freedom of speech. It doesn't apply on hooker message boards, you're on a private website that can be run any way the owners (or their delegates) want. Don't like that? You're free to leave.

[TheEccie214]

Originally Posted by YummyMarie

The facts point to an uneven hand in which Dorthy was the sole target. You have accepted this because you don't agree with her board persona as a whole. That is like saying that Donald Trump does not deserve to run for president.

Her presence on this board should not be dependent on your like of her.

DH is the consistent voice of reason here and he's not defending Dorthy as a poster but her right's as compared to how others are treated. Read again dear.

And are you or Dorfy offering those $150 creampie specials yet?