Making Prostitution Legal

[Victoria of Houston]

I worked in London for 3 1/2 years. It is all legal there. The only thing they really care about policing are street walkers and genuine sex trafficking (of which there is quite a lot, you get all the Eastern Euro girls who sadly get sold into it.)

But in general, what we do here, online advertising, etc, they could care less about.

So having provided both here and there I pretty much concur with what Fancy said (and if I am not mistaken, being Irish, she is probably familiar with the UK culture and mindset on it.)

I never once had to worry about screening, cops, getting arrested and all that bullshit. Clients could walk into my in-call and we could freely discuss services, remuneration and so forth. That felt great and worry free.

However, I did find that there was a huge over saturation of providers bc of this. Especially in a city as big as London. Maybe if I had been elsewhere it wouldn't have been so bad.

So, what I found, was that while over here, I would have my good set of regular clients who would always come back to me (some, I had for like 2 years straight).

Over there, I would meet a gent and he would see me maybe 3 or 4 times and then move on. How can you blame them when there is so much tasty fruit hanging around just begging to picked and tasted?

There were also TONS of girls willing to serve the whole enchilada for like 60 or 80 quid....so if he could get that, why would he bother paying me 100 quid for just a fbsm? That also led to pretty much every single client thinking I would be willing to give more bc pretty much every chick would. There was less of a distinction between companion and fbsm.

It definitely hurt my business and I had to hustle way more than I have ever had/have to here.

Given those differences, I think I prefer things the way they are here. We have a pretty good "fair market value" when it comes to rates, so even though we have to go through the hassle of screening and so on and so forth, I know I am guaranteed x amount for services rendered, and I won't be hassled for more service than that which I advertise (by most gents.)

[Gorgeous_Boriqua]

Originally Posted by Victoria of Houston

I worked in London for 3 1/2 years. It is all legal there. The only thing they really care about policing are street walkers and genuine sex trafficking (of which there is quite a lot, you get all the Eastern Euro girls who sadly get sold into it.)

But in general, what we do here, online advertising, etc, they could care less about.

So having provided both here and there I pretty much concur with what Fancy said (and if I am not mistaken, being Irish, she is probably familiar with the UK culture and mindset on it.)

I never once had to worry about screening, cops, getting arrested and all that bullshit. Clients could walk into my in-call and we could freely discuss services, remuneration and so forth. That felt great and worry free.

However, I did find that there was a huge over saturation of providers bc of this. Especially in a city as big as London. Maybe if I had been elsewhere it wouldn't have been so bad.

So, what I found, was that while over here, I would have my good set of regular clients who would always come back to me (some, I had for like 2 years straight).

Over there, I would meet a gent and he would see me maybe 3 or 4 times and then move on. How can you blame them when there is so much tasty fruit hanging around just begging to picked and tasted?

There were also TONS of girls willing to serve the whole enchilada for like 60 or 80 quid....so if he could get that, why would he bother paying me 100 quid for just a fbsm? That also led to pretty much every single client thinking I would be willing to give more bc pretty much every chick would. There was less of a distinction between companion and fbsm.

It definitely hurt my business and I had to hustle way more than I have ever had/have to here.

Given those differences, I think I prefer things the way they are here. We have a pretty good "fair market value" when it comes to rates, so even though we have to go through the hassle of screening and so on and so forth, I know I am guaranteed x amount for services rendered, and I won't be hassled for more service than that which I advertise (by most gents.)

My response was due to the fact that Providers would have more safety.
Also I don't think people should be crapped on for visiting Providers.
I think Escorting or Prostitution is natural and healthy even, if we say that things not in excess can be so.

Anyway what actually made me reply to you was what you said about the girls sold into slavery.
Have you watched Eastern Promises with Beautiful Viggo?
The movie kind of dangles, but I think the whole purpose was to touch on these poor young girls forced to prostitute by the Russian Mobsters in London.

[iquit]

Most definitely a plus.


Providers ending up dead on the streets with no record of who they saw coz they were trying to hide would be reduced. Happens every time you legalize an underground activity. Cops will no longer focus on arresting people who are not a danger to the public, and instead focus on real crimes. In London, which was given as an example, yes trafficking is there but because it's legal, it can be controlled as cops can focus on it rather than try to find two consenting adults while leaving criminals alone.

Tax revenues from it can be used for fighting sex trafficking and providing sex education and sad testing which reduces those cases overall.

On requiring test results, it would improve revenues from prostitution since those who fear seeing prostitutes because of std's would now be customers.

Yes, there would be more hassling but not any different than now. Canada has price ranges at every point and as long as the provider is worth it, clients will come. If your fbsm is worth it, they will come and I doubt the law has an impact on that relationship.

Canada rules made sense before and now they don't. They are following some theory that by making it illegal to buy and legal to sell sex, it reduces demand. It simply increases the ambiguity around the whole trade and it starts to have the same elements as something illegal and unacceptable, followed by stigma, then ladies not wanting to put clients at risk will keep it underground. It's ridiculous at the moment. Even Sweden has seen an increase in trafficking victims coz they changed their laws. The laws will not eliminate human trafficking, it will just make it easier for a lady who does not want to consent to go to authorities and also make Johns report to cops illegal activity without fear of repercussions.

I could keep going but this is an argument where the reasons to decriminalize are all typically religion based and I can write a whole book about it.

[bigbadbill969]

I like the hobby just fine the way it is. Making it legal would probably just raise the prices and put even more of OUR money in the government's pockets. Look what happened when weed became legal
I would support legalization if it were like in Costa Rica. The government there only gets involved to insure the girl is of legal age and not pimped. The deal and funds are completely uncontrolled and not taxed.

[Victoria of Houston]

Originally Posted by Gorgeous_Boriqua

My response was due to the fact that Providers would have more safety.

Have you watched Eastern Promises with Beautiful Viggo?
The movie kind of dangles, but I think the whole purpose was to touch on these poor young girls forced to prostitute by the Russian Mobsters in London.

I'm not sure about legality making it safer for the girls. In the UK, yes it is legal, but there is no kind of "regulatory" board or commission on it. I hear in Australia it is more regulated, maybe things are different there, I have no idea though bc I have no personal experience there.

But as far as the UK goes and it being "safer", I mean, things work pretty much the same as here. You place an ad, gent calls up to schedule. Gents there are pretty much 100% NOT willing to screen because of it being legal; they have no possibility of legal entanglements, so why would they share their info with you?

So, you basically just have to trust your judgement and radar of how a gent sounds on the phone when deciding who to see.

Nothing bad ever happened to me there, but I did have my fair share of creepers and even a few I kicked out.

Of course, if something were to happen any girl could go straight to the cops and report it, whereas many here do not for fear of getting into trouble.

I don't really know how it could ever be made safer unless the gents are willing to screen beforehand, like they do here. That is why I actually think our system is a little better in that we vet clients beforehand and the legit ones are willing to do so, and us ladies are willing to help each other by giving word of mouth.


But in regards to the films you mentioned, yes, I have seen them, and that is the sort of stuff I was referring to. Super sad, indeed. You would see these "ads" for these ladies and you would just know this poor chick just got in "fresh off the boat". *sigh*

[Gorgeous_Boriqua]

Just even the ability to report an assault (or perhaps theft, and obviously I'm more concerned about the assault because if money was the more important fact I'd be agreeing that "things are better for Provider's if it stays illegal" not being rude there - just factual) or to not be considered a criminal and be given a record - on both Clients and Providers... these two reason are to me greater than only making 50 ₤ or Euro instead of 200 ₤.
Yeah, now that you explain it though, I understand why a blond bombshell was saying she works for 50 - and I was gonna PM her and tell her to get her butt here to Texas ASAP .. but now that I know it is legal.. I'd possibly say I should move my butt over to England.

[Victoria of Houston]

I hear ya hun, and agree wholeheartedly; no amount of $$$ is worth more than personal safety. If you are dead, injured or in jail, what good will that money do ya?

Just know if you DO make the move, to be prepared to work WAY harder to maintain a stable client base.

If you are truly interested in moving and working there, I would highly suggest taking a few visiting trips first and touring to see how it goes. I would also suggest trying out different cities around the UK, than just London, to see if there is a difference.

If you do decide to make some trips, and would like some advice on sites to advertise on, places to stay in London, etc etc, feel free to PM me anytime.

[Gorgeous_Boriqua]

Originally Posted by Victoria of Houston

I hear ya hun, and agree wholeheartedly; no amount of $$$ is worth more than personal safety. If you are dead, injured or in jail, what good will that money do ya?

Just know if you DO make the move, to be prepared to work WAY harder to maintain a stable client base.

If you are truly interested in moving and working there, I would highly suggest taking a few visiting trips first and touring to see how it goes. I would also suggest trying out different cities around the UK, than just London, to see if there is a difference.

If you do decide to make some trips, and would like some advice on sites to advertise on, places to stay in London, etc etc, feel free to PM me anytime.

Cool! I mean, I love SA but you never know, I'm really not sure if I'll continue to Escort as a full time job once I get done with college.

Anyway, Europe for a tour sounds like a great idea!! They're pretty kinky over there haha

[Victoria of Houston]

Originally Posted by Gorgeous_Boriqua

Anyway, Europe for a tour sounds like a great idea!! They're pretty kinky over there haha

Depending on where you are, yeah. Those English men girl......very kinky boys, the lot of them, lols. The French call spanking "Le Vice Anglais" (The English Vice), for a reason.....all that private school upbringing with caning and whatnot...I swear, it does something to them, lols.

[Gorgeous_Boriqua]

Originally Posted by Victoria of Houston

Depending on where you are, yeah. Those English men girl......very kinky boys, the lot of them, lols. The French call spanking "Le Vice Anglais" (The English Vice), for a reason.....all that private school upbringing with caning and whatnot...I swear, it does something to them, lols.

Ha ha!!

Love it!

I'd love when guys like getting spanked and whipped and those English accents are quite "Delish" you're tempting me only more!!

[Victoria of Houston]

Yeah, I guess the accents can be sexy and novel at first....I lived there for 3 1/2 years, even went to uni there for part of that time, so was receiving formal instruction in proper English, so after a while, it becomes as common place as anything else you are used to.

At this point, hearing both accents (American & all the different British ones) sounds the same to me, in terms of it being "normal". But, you are right that in the beginning it is fun and sexy, lols.