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02-04-2016, 06:11 PM
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Did JDrunk just accuse the MSM of reporting the facts?
According to him, apparently, NONE of this happened.
I hear Trump has bought a new campaign plane from Malaysian Airlines!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
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eeehbbburrr the "Independent" communist thinks Urinal Lips twerking is sexy...
Now we know how he got the name Chicken Dick...
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02-04-2016, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
Report is that Cruz said the claim by CNN is false. If the CNN story is "true," then why is Cruz "apologizing" for his campaign staff passing out the false report on Carson.
Where it's "fraud" or not is another question.
Sleazy? Yes! Dishonest? Yes! Does it corrupt the process? Yes!
Is it consistent with the unprincipled person occupying the People's House now? Yes to that also.
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Did Cruz apologize for his campaign workers giving a false report or did Cruz apologize for one of his workers just shooting his mouth off about Carson's plans and then editorializing? Politicians apologize all the time for things that didn't happen just because it makes the matter go away. Like settling in a lawsuit though you didn't do anything wrong. It is quicker, easier, and cheaper to just settle than to fight it out. Let me give you an example; I was involved a few years ago in a local campaign. A guy was on staff to record a debate/townhall meeting. He did but it came up that his camera was rolling when focused on another candidate's group meeting. No separate rooms, just your spot on the floor. Anyway, the other party cried foul to this eavesdropping of their private meeting. The guy confessed that he was recording the group but not for secrets, there was a young woman on the other team that he wanted to meet and he was recording her. Now our guy could have come and told the truth but you know how that sounds. So my guy apologized for the actions of a subordinate (who did this without his knowledge) and we tried to move on.
This was a CNN fuck up. The Cruz man never said that Carson was quitting the race. He was just mocking Carson for going home. It was the CNN who inferred the wrong thing and then reported it in such a way as to make it look like they got something confirmed.
Why is Carson attacking Cruz on this....come on, it's an election and you have to get your name out there somehow.
By the way, tell Assup that I accused CNN of misreporting rumor as fact. Otherwise, Assup is guilty of the same thing CNN just did.
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02-04-2016, 08:30 PM
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eeehbbburrr the "Independent" communist thinks Urinal Lips twerking is sexy...
Now we know how he got the name Chicken Dick...
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Say something whiffy? Your voice was muffled.
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02-04-2016, 08:38 PM
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Voter fraud pertains to rigging the actual votes, including changing ballots and voting more than once.
If Cruz supporters started a false rumor and Ben Carson supporters believed it, that isn't voter fraud. People vote based on inaccurate information - including deliberate falsehoods - all the time. In EVERY election ever held.
If you could overturn an election based on a complaint that your opponent said something false to get more votes, EVERY election would be contested after the fact.
Courts won't do that. That's the voters job. It is up to the voters themselves to stay informed and weed out the bullshit.
If it is true that Cruz pulled a fast one, I have to say he went UP in my opinion. I'm more likely to vote for him. Anything that blindsides Trump is a good thing.
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02-04-2016, 09:21 PM
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Trump is whining like a pussy and TrusTed is gonna stick it up his ass. We're seeing it now.
It's not fraud. It's hardball campaign politics. Trump will crumble and the GOP will shit the bed with TrusTed in the driver's seat.
This is must-see TV! The battle for the stupid vote just got even more real.
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02-04-2016, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Trump is whining like a pussy and TrusTed is gonna stick it up his ass. We're seeing it now.
It's not fraud. It's hardball campaign politics. Trump will crumble and the GOP will shit the bed with TrusTed in the driver's seat.
This is must-see TV! The battle for the stupid vote just got even more real.
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So, what if they destroy each other and the Republicans nominate Senator Rubio - the one candidate Bill Clinton fears?
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02-04-2016, 10:56 PM
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...clusive-audio/
The above link sums up things so far. CNN tweets "explicitly" stated Carson was not suspending campaign efforts.
Is it voter fraud? All I know is that it is what it is.
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What is this idiot talking about now? I bet it's something about that myth about Cruz which was not voter fraud by the way. I watched the video on CNN that the whole claim came from. A Cruz person was tweeting about Ben Carson was going home to Florida to get clean clothes a story also carried by the Huffington Post. He never, NEVER, said that Carson was quitting the election. That was the CNN crew who came up with that conclusion and tied that to an announcement Carson was going to make at 10:15 that night. Let the speculation begin. CNN tweets at 6:44. At 6:53 Carson campaign tweeted they weren't quitting under any circumstances. Caucuses started at 7. The messages that Carson was quitting were 2 voice mails (in the Breitbart report). A video of people talking about something doesn't make that "something" true.
No, this was just another tall tale created by YOU(CNN) and believed by the idiot elite (as proven by the following quotes I included).
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"Washington (CNN)Ted Cruz's campaign staff called Iowa precinct captains Monday night to tell them that Ben Carson was "suspending campaigning" and that they should alert caucus attendees in an effort to sway voters.
Cruz precinct captain Nancy Bliesman told CNN she received two messages Monday night saying that Carson was leaving the campaign trail.
"Dr. Ben Carson will be (inaudible) suspending campaigning following tonight's caucuses. Please inform any Carson caucusgoers of this news and urge them to caucus for Ted instead," someone who identified themselves as being from the Cruz campaign said in one message.
In another voicemail, someone who also identified herself as being with the Cruz campaign said, "It has just been announced that Ben Carson is taking a leave of absence from the campaign trail, so it is very important that you tell any Ben Carson voters that for tonight, uh, that they not waste a vote on Ben Carson, and vote for Ted Cruz."
The voicemails were first reported Thursday by Breitbart News and Bliesman confirmed their content to CNN.
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CNN reported Monday night that Carson would go home to Florida following the Iowa caucuses instead of flying directly to the early voting states of New Hampshire and South Carolina. The network added that he planned to stay in the race.
READ: Ted Cruz's claims about CNN are false
Some Cruz allies shared that news widely on the night of the caucuses, including to Carson supporters, but did not include the part about Carson remaining in the race.
That has irked Carson and his team, who has said the decision by the Cruz team to share only part of the CNN report was a dirty political maneuver. Donald Trump has also latched onto it as a reason to invalidate Cruz's victory over him in Iowa.
Cruz later apologized to Carson for not clarifying the report."
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Report is that Cruz said the claim by CNN is false. If the CNN story is "true," then why is Cruz "apologizing" for his campaign staff passing out the false report on Carson.
The available info shows the CNN story is true (no quotation marks needed) and Cruz apologized (again, no quotation marks needed) for not including all the info in the CNN report
Where it's "fraud" or not is another question.
Sleazy? Yes! Dishonest? Yes! Does it corrupt the process? Yes! Yes, you and jdouche and Cruz are all of that.
Is it consistent with the unprincipled person occupying the People's House now? Yes to that also.I've never seen anything that qualified you as someone who can judge who is principled or not.
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Yeah CNN really pulled one over on them.
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Yep. They proved Cruz's claims were false
[QUOTE=JD Barleycorn;1057772056]Did Cruz apologize for his campaign workers giving a false report or did Cruz apologize for one of his workers just shooting his mouth off about Carson's plans and then editorializing? Neither. Now starts the bullshit that has nothing to do with this> Politicians apologize all the time for things that didn't happen just because it makes the matter go away. Like settling in a lawsuit though you didn't do anything wrong. It is quicker, easier, and cheaper to just settle than to fight it out. Let me give you an example; I was involved a few years ago in a local campaign. A guy was on staff to record a debate/townhall meeting. He did but it came up that his camera was rolling when focused on another candidate's group meeting. No separate rooms, just your spot on the floor. Anyway, the other party cried foul to this eavesdropping of their private meeting. The guy confessed that he was recording the group but not for secrets, there was a young woman on the other team that he wanted to meet and he was recording her. Now our guy could have come and told the truth but you know how that sounds. It sounds exactly like it is. Pretty fucking creepy. And instead of learning you shouldn't secretly tape women, you think the method used for getting your ass out of the sling is business as usual. So my guy apologized for the actions of a subordinate (who did this without his knowledge) and we tried to move on.
This was a CNN fuck up. Wrong. The Cruz man never said that Carson was quitting the race. Not exactly that but his staff implied it. Text of the voice mail they left is above. He was just mocking Carson for going home. It was the CNN who inferred the wrong thing and then reported it in such a way as to make it look like they got something confirmed. Once again your analysis is completely wrong and filled with bullshit and lies.
Why is Carson attacking Cruz on this....come on, it's an election and you have to get your name out there somehow.
By the way, tell Assup that I accused CNN of misreporting rumor as fact. And you made a false accusation. Again. Otherwise, Assup is guilty of the same thing CNN just did . Which was? [/QUOTE]
Once again you show why everything you type has to be checked.
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02-04-2016, 10:56 PM
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Voting 2 or more times using a different name?
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Same thing. Once you vote once you are ineligible to vote a second time.
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02-04-2016, 11:00 PM
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So, what if they destroy each other and the Republicans nominate Senator Rubio - the one candidate Bill Clinton fears?
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How do you know who Bill Clinton fears?
And Bill Clinton isn't running so what difference does it make?
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02-04-2016, 11:18 PM
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This gets more entertaining my the day. Maybe they need a new voter ID law that requires EEG testing for each Republican voter so confirm they're sufficiently stupid...
But seriously, Trump is asking to see the kind of snarkiness that has made Ted KKKruz the most universally despised member of Congress. And The KKKanadian KKKupcake will seize the opportunity.
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump...165834563.html
Donald Trump accuses Ted Cruz of voter fraud, demands ‘new election’ in Iowa
Two days after finishing second to Ted Cruz in the Iowa caucuses, Donald Trump is accusing the Texas senator of fraud and demanding that either a “new election” take place in the Hawkeye State or that its results be “nullified.”
“Ted Cruz didn’t win Iowa, he stole it,” Trump tweeted on Wednesday. “That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!”
Trump accused the Cruz campaign of misleading caucus-goers by circulating a false election-night rumor implying that retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson was planning to drop out of the race.
Two days after finishing second to Ted Cruz in the Iowa caucuses, Donald Trump is accusing the Texas senator of fraud and demanding that either a “new election” take place in the Hawkeye State or that its results be “nullified.”
“Ted Cruz didn’t win Iowa, he stole it,” Trump tweeted on Wednesday. “That is why all of tvhe polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!”
Trump accused the Cruz campaign of misleading caucus-goers by circulating a false election-night rumor implying that retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson was planning to drop out of the race.
The Cruz campaign issued an apology to Carson on Tuesday, saying it should have clarified that Carson was, in fact, continuing his bid for the Republican nomination.
Trump also made mention of a deceptive mailer distributed by the Cruz campaign designed to shame Iowa voters into caucusing.
“Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified,” Trump tweeted.
“Reality has hit the reality star,” Cruz campaign spokesman Rick Tyler responded in a statement. “Since Iowa, no one is talking about Donald Trump. That’s why he’s popping off on Twitter. There are Twitter addiction therapy groups, and he should check in with his local chapter.”
The accusations stand in stark contrast to Trump’s concession speech, in which the brash billionaire struck a conciliatory tone.
“We finished second, and I want to tell you something,” he said late Monday in Des Moines. “I’m just honored. I’m really honored. And I want to congratulate Ted, and I want to congratulate all of the incredible candidates.”
On NBC’s “Today” show Wednesday, Trump said he was “semi-satisfied” with his second-place finish.
“I came in second, and nobody said it was a victory. It’s kind of strange,” he said. “I beat a lot of senators, a lot of governors. They do it professionally. I’ve never done this before. I’m not a professional politician, and I came in second. It was such a big story that I came in second. I don’t know why. I was actually semi-satisfied with it.”
Before a rally in New Hampshire on Tuesday, Trump admitted his decision to boycott Fox News’ GOP debate may have cost him in the caucuses.
“I think some people were disappointed that I didn’t go into the debate,” he told reporters.
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So box 13 is revered as a Dumbascrap " price-o-din-bidness " when it comes to electing Lyin Lyndon " and voter registration laws are fought toothless and broken nails for you lyin liberals, your " absentee " cemetary voters are NOT to have THEIR rights denied as to voting ( so long as they vote for YOU tree hugging, salamander-protecting, rainbow-thong wearers ! ) and if ole Chuy who " no se habla, who hasn't even dried out from his perilous trek across " Del Rio " , is ready to " make his mark " for some welfare,it all good, right assup zwiffle ? Mebbe YOU need to appeal to those same voters to get YOUR DOTY crown back from Lil Cotex !
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02-04-2016, 11:21 PM
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Say something whiffy? Your voice was muffled.
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Nice self portrait of YOU EKIM ! And thanks for sharing !
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02-04-2016, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ExNYer
Voter fraud pertains to rigging the actual votes, including changing ballots and voting more than once.
If Cruz supporters started a false rumor and Ben Carson supporters believed it, that isn't voter fraud. People vote based on inaccurate information - including deliberate falsehoods - all the time. In EVERY election ever held.
If you could overturn an election based on a complaint that your opponent said something false to get more votes, EVERY election would be contested after the fact.
Courts won't do that. That's the voters job. It is up to the voters themselves to stay informed and weed out the bullshit.
If it is true that Cruz pulled a fast one, I have to say he went UP in my opinion. I'm more likely to vote for him. Anything that blindsides Trump is a good thing.
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IF Cruz " did a Clinton " , I don't see why the liberal media isn't happy like they would be for Shrillary, Slick Willy or BOOrock Insane Odummer . IJS ....
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02-04-2016, 11:29 PM
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Same thing. Once you vote once you are ineligible to vote a second time.
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Unless you are a "resident " of a cemetery in the south with a Dumbascrap election administrator. Or an illegal alien. Box 13........anyone ?
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02-04-2016, 11:30 PM
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How do you know who Bill Clinton fears?
And Bill Clinton isn't running so what difference does it make?
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He fears blue dresses............. now !!!
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02-04-2016, 11:41 PM
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Nice self portrait of YOU EKIM ! And thanks for sharing !
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Did you say something woomby?
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