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Old 11-05-2015, 08:51 PM   #196
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Fault is indecipherable in these situations, as both sides are to blame for the state of any marraige...

However, you men have made a choice...a choice to cheat on your wives...and the only reason for that choice is because you're selfish, scared children with no impulse control...

Simple as that...and that's where the discussion here lies...
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Old 11-05-2015, 08:54 PM   #197
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However, you men have made a choice...a choice to cheat on your wives...and the only reason for that choice is because you're selfish, scared children with no impulse control...

Simple as that...and that's where the discussion here lies...
Really? Simple as that, huh. That is just brilliant! I never knew that! I cheat because I'M selfish, not my wife, who suddenly decided we need to stay together but not have sex. She isn't selfish, it's me. And I'm a child with no impulse control. I know it's pointless to explain to you, but what the hell. I never had the desire to stray. Sure , I'd look at women and even porn occasionally, but I had no desire to actually cheat. Then she stopped having sex. At first it was every 2 months or so, which was hard, but I dealt with it. But now, it is literally NEVER. I held out for a year or so and I couldn't take it anymore. We talked about it and somehow she thinks it's perfectly OK for her to stop having sex and I should still not cheat. It would destroy my family and would put her in terrible situation to divorce. Providers were my answer. I don't like it, but it beats the alternative. I know you think I should tell her and let her decide. Well, in a normal, non-cuckold/hooker marriage, that usually doesn't go over well.

But again, I'm the selfish one. Must be nice living in Wakeup's world where everything is black and white, cut and dry. Must be a lot less stressful there than in the real world.
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:26 PM   #198
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I cheat because I'M selfish, not my wife, who suddenly decided we need to stay together but not have sex.
Wait...you BOTH decided to stay together...when you took your marraige vows. YOU'RE the one who decided that wasn't good enough for you...

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I never had the desire to stray. Then she stopped having sex.
Ah...so instead of asking her if you could have sex with other women, since she wasn't having any with you, you chose to hide it from her and make that decision for yourself. Yeah...you're a scared child...

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I held out for a year or so and I couldn't take it anymore.
Funny...I held out for 32 years...yeah...you're a weak child with no impulse control...

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It would destroy my family and would put her in terrible situation to divorce.
What would happen if she found out you were cheating on her? It would destroy your family and she would take half your shit. Sounds like you don't give a fuck about your family...you just give a fuck about your shit...yeah...you're selfish...

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I know you think I should tell her and let her decide. Well, in a normal, non-cuckold/hooker marriage, that usually doesn't go over well.
Which is why you're a scared, selfish child with no impulse control...a weak excuse of a man who is afraid to confront the reality of the situation he is in...

Okay folks, nothing new here, just more of the same weak attempts at justification for their actions. Does anyone here have anything new? I'm getting bored with all these whiners complaining about how they're not to blame, and then proving that they are to blame...
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:36 PM   #199
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Wait...you BOTH decided to stay together...when you took your marraige vows. YOU'RE the one who decided that wasn't good enough for you...



Ah...so instead of asking her if you could have sex with other women, since she wasn't having any with you, you chose to hide it from her and make that decision for yourself. Yeah...you're a scared child...



Funny...I held out for 32 years...yeah...you're a weak child with no impulse control...



What would happen if she found out you were cheating on her? It would destroy your family and she would take half your shit. Sounds like you don't give a fuck about your family...you just give a fuck about your shit...yeah...you're selfish...



Which is why you're a scared, selfish child with no impulse control...a weak excuse of a man who is afraid to confront the reality of the situation he is in...

Okay folks, nothing new here, just more of the same weak attempts at justification for their actions. Does anyone here have anything new? I'm getting bored with all these whiners complaining about how they're not to blame, .....and then proving that they are to blame...
It's like talking to a child who has no concept of the real world. Where to begin on this insane post? First, once again, SHE changed the parameters of the marriage, not me.

Your second "point": You have NO idea of the situation. Unlike your cuckold marriage, I can't just say I'm going to cheat. Most people aren't so naïve and realize this. But again, I'm not a cuck like you.

You held out for 32 years? Well, either you have no sex drive or you're into personal torture. Probably the latter considering the whole cuckold thing.

Taking half my stuff has no bearing whatsoever. She literally has no place to go and our finances are total crap right now because of the downturn in the oil industry. I would, however, have to pay for a place for her to stay so that she would have a place and a place for my kids. In that situation, I'd have to move in with my parents and destroy my family. In your simplistic world view though, that would be the "right" thing to do.

Or you sh-tting me or do you really think like this? I find it hard to believe that you think that everyone's life is as cut and dry as your life apparently is.

By the way, as usual, you've "proven" nothing but claim that you did.
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Old 11-06-2015, 06:52 AM   #200
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You held out for 32 years? Well, either you have no sex drive or you're into personal torture. Probably the latter considering the whole cuckold thing.
Nope...I'm just a much better man than you...I control my impulses, I don't let them control me. Sex isn't a need...it's a want...that's your delusion...

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She literally has no place to go and our finances are total crap right now because of the downturn in the oil industry. I would, however, have to pay for a place for her to stay so that she would have a place and a place for my kids. In that situation, I'd have to move in with my parents and destroy my family.
You asking for a divorce would cause you to move back in with your parents (snicker), ruin your wife's life, and destroy your family...so...you're committing the one action that would lead to a divorce if your wife found out about it?

How does your mind work? How do you not see that your very own actions prove that you don't really give a fuck about the primary thing you're trying to use to defend your cheating?
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Old 11-06-2015, 06:54 AM   #201
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If the finances are a shamble the question should be why are you spending funds on hookers?
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Old 11-06-2015, 07:05 AM   #202
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Damnit...don't distract him...he's an oil and gas guy...let him try and focus...

Besides, we already know that...he's a selfish child who has no impulse control and doesn't give a fuck about his family...

Focus Al...on my last post...
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Old 11-06-2015, 07:57 AM   #203
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The shoe man wants his name back. Pronto.
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:40 AM   #204
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Wakeup needs to read Leviticus 18:20.
Wake and I don't agree often on how to go about things, however, there is something that doesn't feel right to either of us, concerning your total and complete disregard for the woman you chose to spend your life with. The fact you use an excuse like, she is no longer 21, without batting an eye, definitely gave me pause. The religous rules? Outdated and male interests interfered with the 'good word" a few years before any of us were born.

Did you believe your wife would never age at some point, or not realize that everyone ages? Are you completely blind or unaware of the truths about religious documents and yes, especially the bible? Could it be that you traveled across time from the past, in order to indulge in parts of a more partially evolved and accepting society whch now has indoor plumbing, but still cling to what everyone was told is true by religous leaders, who of course had their own agendas? Are you seriously incapable of pulling your head out of your rump and realizing there is something not quite right going on with not only what you say, but how you believe is OK to think about and even treat your wife?


Maybe it's time for a re-think. I am more than convinced that you have a need to come in out of the fog, hon. Put the bible down and learn to think for yourself. You have limited yourself and are using what many of us could see and feel were lies without having to be told. Seriously....it's time tor you to wake up. You are missing more than you can imagine. If that's just too scary of a notion, I understand and carry on if that's what you feel is right. I'll, ummm.....pray for you?
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:24 AM   #205
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. . . our finances are total crap right now because of the downturn in the oil industry and my whoring around.

FIFY.
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Old 11-06-2015, 11:19 AM   #206
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and I'm a strong enough man to keep my end of that bargain, or void/modify that contract
We are all liars. Either you lied when you promised till death do you part, or you lied when you told your wife you are working late. Nothing about a lie requires a strong man.

I cheat and lie to my wife simply because she pissed me off enough with no sex, even after I told her she needed to step her game up. But she's great in all other aspects. I'm a happier man since, and she has even said how much more fun I am to be with (I told her it was fiber gummys).

I'm also terrible at fixing her car, so she takes it to a mechanic. That's how I view sex.

Women have problems separating sex from love, but most men shouldn't.
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Old 11-06-2015, 11:38 AM   #207
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We are all liars. Either you lied when you promised till death do you part, or you lied when you told your wife you are working late. Nothing about a lie requires a strong man.

Gee, I'm sorry to inform you, that your belief of this is incorrect if you mean by "We", you mean everyone.

I cheat and lie to my wife simply because she pissed me off enough with no sex, even after I told her she needed to step her game up. But she's great in all other aspects. I'm a happier man since, and she has even said how much more fun I am to be with (I told her it was fiber gummys).

What was wrong wth her "game". There's normally a reason someone changes. What happened? Cause and effect, hon. I bet she didn't just wake up one day with less desire. So, what happened?


I'm also terrible at fixing her car, so she takes it to a mechanic. That's how I view sex.


Really? Maybe that's why. She feels like a means to an end? Did you not pay her as well as she pays the mechanic for his intimate services?

Women have problems separating sex from love, but most men shouldn't.

Really? Why shouldn't they? Please explain.....I really want to know some sound reasoning for this statement. Thanks!


Edit: Why would you believe it to be a "problem" for women? Why is it not more so a problem, that not enough men associate sex and love?
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Old 11-06-2015, 05:30 PM   #208
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I cheat and lie to my wife simply because she pissed me off enough with no sex...
Ah...so you cheat to get revenge on your wife for not having sex whenever you want...that's a mature response from a responsible man who is committee to the wellbeing of his family...

Or not...

You guys REALLY need to stop replying to this thread...each new respondent makes you all look that much worse...
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Old 11-06-2015, 06:36 PM   #209
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If the finances are a shamble the question should be why are you spending funds on hookers?
Being as Pyramider, Cabletex7, JohnnyYanks, and Wakeup are either blind or slow, take a look at my avatar. Notice anything? That's right. NO Premium Access! Obviously. I'm NOT spending money on hookers.
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Nope...I'm just a much better man than you...I control my impulses, I don't let them control me. Sex isn't a need...it's a want...that's your delusion...
Why did you hold out for so long? Prison? A guy with tits on his back still counts as sex. Also, why do you consider that a badge of honor? Self torture?
As usual, you put a "one size fits all" label to life. Different people have different sex drives and different needs. Maybe you have low testosterone or something. There are pills for that.


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You asking for a divorce would cause you to move back in with your parents (snicker), ruin your wife's life, and destroy your family...so...you're committing the one action that would lead to a divorce if your wife found out about it?

Again, because you're slow, SHE changed the terms of the "contract". I'm not totally innocent in everything, but I just don't get these people that think it's the guy's fault TOTALLY and the poor innocent woman never has any fault in the matter.

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How does your mind work? How do you not see that your very own actions prove that you don't really give a fuck about the primary thing you're trying to use to defend your cheating?
My mind works rationally and logically. How does a troll's mind work? How best to stir up sh-t, I guess. What am I doing ?!?! I'm arguing on an escort site with a barfly, cuckold, hooker board trolling, self-righteous douchebag who, unbelievably, preaches to me about family values? I love the way on every thread I've seen you post in, you post how you "win" in some way, even when you usually get shown to be the lying troll that you are.
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