Welcome to ECCIE, become a part of the fastest growing adult community. Take a minute & sign up!

Welcome to ECCIE - Sign up today!

Become a part of one of the fastest growing adult communities online. We have something for you, whether you’re a male member seeking out new friends or a new lady on the scene looking to take advantage of our many opportunities to network, make new friends, or connect with people. Join today & take part in lively discussions, take advantage of all the great features that attract hundreds of new daily members!

Go Premium

Go Back   ECCIE Worldwide > General Interest > The Political Forum
test
The Political Forum Discuss anything related to politics in this forum. World politics, US Politics, State and Local.

Most Favorited Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Most Liked Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Top Reviewers
cockalatte 649
MoneyManMatt 490
Still Looking 399
samcruz 399
Jon Bon 397
Harley Diablo 377
honest_abe 362
DFW_Ladies_Man 313
Chung Tran 288
lupegarland 287
nicemusic 285
You&Me 281
Starscream66 280
George Spelvin 267
sharkman29 256
Top Posters
DallasRain70798
biomed163382
Yssup Rider61074
gman4453297
LexusLover51038
offshoredrilling48697
WTF48267
pyramider46370
bambino42867
The_Waco_Kid37225
CryptKicker37224
Mokoa36496
Chung Tran36100
Still Looking35944
Mojojo33117

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-16-2015, 10:09 PM   #46
TheDaliLama
Valued Poster
 
TheDaliLama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 6, 2010
Location: Ikoyi Club 1938
Posts: 7,093
Default

Your photo is spot on..

Well since there are no preexisting conditions he can always wait until he gets really sick before he gets health insurance.. The IRS fine is far less.
TheDaliLama is online now   Quote
Old 10-16-2015, 11:09 PM   #47
RedLeg505
Oral Aficionado
 
RedLeg505's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 13, 2013
Location: SW Oklahoma
Posts: 8,522
Encounters: 138
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by flghtr65 View Post
4. Because of the ACA law 20 million more people are INSURED, either with a private plan or the expanded Medicaid (for the states that have it).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...8c9_story.html

Since this year, Obama only achieved an enrollment of 9.1 million, you must be saying that we expanded Medicaid by almost 11 million hmmm? I thought the whole purpose of Obamacare was to be an ADDITIONAL program on top of Medicaid/Medicare. Whoops. And HHS Estimates are projecting HALF the number of enrollees.. roughly 10 million, than the CBO originally estimated would be achieved by 2016.

Tell us again what a rousing success this whole POS program is again? Keep repeating it.. somewhere, somehow, a couple of the Obama supporters will nod their heads and repeat your mantra. But that's the only ones you'll convince.
RedLeg505 is offline   Quote
Old 10-17-2015, 01:18 AM   #48
WombRaider
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Apr 7, 2015
Location: Down by the River
Posts: 8,487
Encounters: 3
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedLeg505 View Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...8c9_story.html

Since this year, Obama only achieved an enrollment of 9.1 million, you must be saying that we expanded Medicaid by almost 11 million hmmm? I thought the whole purpose of Obamacare was to be an ADDITIONAL program on top of Medicaid/Medicare. Whoops. And HHS Estimates are projecting HALF the number of enrollees.. roughly 10 million, than the CBO originally estimated would be achieved by 2016.

Tell us again what a rousing success this whole POS program is again? Keep repeating it.. somewhere, somehow, a couple of the Obama supporters will nod their heads and repeat your mantra. But that's the only ones you'll convince.
So you don't think that 10 million more who didn't have coverage before is a good thing?
WombRaider is offline   Quote
Old 10-17-2015, 09:37 PM   #49
The_Waco_Kid
AKA President Trump
 
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The MAGA Zone
Posts: 37,225
Encounters: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WombRaider View Post
So you don't think that 10 million more who didn't have coverage before is a good thing?
no it's not, if you accept the fact that the cost of this "insurance" is so high even with the bs subsidies that it's a financial burden on the lower classes it was intended to help. so what did your Lord Barry accomplish here woombytard? he saddled the lowest economic strata of this country into "mandatory" insurance they can't afford under the threat of IRS sanctions if they don't participate. wonderful solution you libtard idiot
The_Waco_Kid is offline   Quote
Old 10-18-2015, 01:34 AM   #50
RedLeg505
Oral Aficionado
 
RedLeg505's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 13, 2013
Location: SW Oklahoma
Posts: 8,522
Encounters: 138
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WombRaider View Post
So you don't think that 10 million more who didn't have coverage before is a good thing?
If it cost THIS much to insure only 10 million (and dropping).. do you and Obama have enough money to insure the other supposedly 30 million left uninsured almost 6 years after Obamacare was passed?

Any idea when the Dems and Obama will get around to insuring the other 30 million Woomby-Tunes? Sometime this decade? Next Decade? the 12th of NEVER?
RedLeg505 is offline   Quote
Old 10-18-2015, 03:29 AM   #51
flghtr65
Valued Poster
 
flghtr65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 15, 2010
Location: Greenfield, WI
Posts: 2,163
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedLeg505 View Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...8c9_story.html

Since this year, Obama only achieved an enrollment of 9.1 million, you must be saying that we expanded Medicaid by almost 11 million hmmm? I thought the whole purpose of Obamacare was to be an ADDITIONAL program on top of Medicaid/Medicare. Whoops. And HHS Estimates are projecting HALF the number of enrollees.. roughly 10 million, than the CBO originally estimated would be achieved by 2016.

Tell us again what a rousing success this whole POS program is again? Keep repeating it.. somewhere, somehow, a couple of the Obama supporters will nod their heads and repeat your mantra. But that's the only ones you'll convince.
From your link:


HHS contended on Thursday that exchange enrollment, originally pegged to reach 24 million within several years, is not plateauing but is instead on “a much longer path towards equilibrium,” as a senior official said.

Meaning since you're not plateauing yet, it will take longer to hit the original estimates. At least there is a chance that they can be hit. They think there are approximately 10 million people out there who fall in the category of family of 4 and income is > $24,000 which qualifies you for a private plan. If you make less than that you have to try for the expanded Medicaid in the states that have it.

If you get really sick, it is better to have some type of health insurance coverage than none. Your financial burden will be a lot worse. If you have an illness that cost $500,000 to treat, it is much better to be insured than to be uninsured. How many people have $500,000 in their savings account or 401K or Roth IRA or Mutual fund that are uninsured right now? Which means you would not be able to pay what you owe and will just end up in bankruptcy court.
flghtr65 is offline   Quote
Old 10-18-2015, 11:10 AM   #52
RedLeg505
Oral Aficionado
 
RedLeg505's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 13, 2013
Location: SW Oklahoma
Posts: 8,522
Encounters: 138
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by flghtr65 View Post
At least there is a chance that they can be hit.
Yep.. just like there's a "chance" the earth will be hit by an asteroid. But it doesn't require us to TRASH EVERTHING THAT PEOPLE LIKED to prepare for that chance. Just like Obamacare didn't need to trash the system that 85+% of those with insurance liked... did it?

Oh wait.. Yes.. the dems DID need to trash the existing system that people liked, how else could they exert the kind of control over people's lives that they seek continuously?

>>"Which means you would not be able to pay what you owe and will just end up in bankruptcy court"

Sorry.. what it means is that if they had a catastrophic medical issue, they would USE THE EXISTING FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS to pay for it. Why did we need new ones? You do know that the "poor cancer patient in Ohio" Obama used as an example when campaigning for his Obamacare passage, got treated and her treatment was paid for by EXISTING programs. She wasn't "kicked to the curb to die" or "lost her house due to bankruptcy" or any of the other doom and gloom prognostications the Obama supporters all claimed would happen.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...ouse-ohio.html

Whoops.
RedLeg505 is offline   Quote
Old 10-19-2015, 02:59 AM   #53
flghtr65
Valued Poster
 
flghtr65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 15, 2010
Location: Greenfield, WI
Posts: 2,163
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedLeg505 View Post
Yep.. just like there's a "chance" the earth will be hit by an asteroid. But it doesn't require us to TRASH EVERTHING THAT PEOPLE LIKED to prepare for that chance. Just like Obamacare didn't need to trash the system that 85+% of those with insurance liked... did it?

Oh wait.. Yes.. the dems DID need to trash the existing system that people liked, how else could they exert the kind of control over people's lives that they seek continuously?

>>"Which means you would not be able to pay what you owe and will just end up in bankruptcy court"

Sorry.. what it means is that if they had a catastrophic medical issue, they would USE THE EXISTING FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS to pay for it. Why did we need new ones? You do know that the "poor cancer patient in Ohio" Obama used as an example when campaigning for his Obamacare passage, got treated and her treatment was paid for by EXISTING programs. She wasn't "kicked to the curb to die" or "lost her house due to bankruptcy" or any of the other doom and gloom prognostications the Obama supporters all claimed would happen.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...ouse-ohio.html

Whoops.
RL50, did you read your own link? Do you know what Original Medicaid is? Do you know how small your income has to be to qualify for original Medicaid? The person in your link qualified for original Medicaid, because her income is below POVERTY LEVEL. I know the rules are complex, I will summarize it for you one more time.

To qualify for an Obamacare private plan off the government exchange

Income for a family of 4 must be greater than $24,000

To receive a subsidy from the Federal Government:

Income for a family of 4 must greater than $24,000 and less than $94,000

To received Expanded Medicaid (in the states that have it):

Income for a family of 4 must be less than $24,000 and greater than $16,000

To receive Original Medicaid in any state:

Income for a family of 4 must be less than $16,000 (which is considered POVERTY LEVEL). If your income is above the $16,000 you will not get the original Medicaid regardless the catastrophic medical issue one may be faced with.

The woman in your link had an income of $6,000. This is why she qualified for the Original state Medicaid ( and received help from an existing Government program).

Of the 30 million who remain uninsured many of them have incomes above $16,000 minimum but less than the $24,000 needed to get a private plan and live in a state that did not accept the expanded Medicaid from the Federal government. There are about 10 million who have incomes greater than the $24,000 but chose not to get health insurance in 2014.

The Individual market for health insurance changed. The employer base market did not really change, other than all policies are to have the 10 minimum benefits. The health insurance companies are still the focal point of the system. You have been listening to COF too much.

From your link:

But with a self-reported annual income of about $6,000, Canfield is a prime candidate for financial aid in the form of Medicaid -- the federal health care program for low-income and disabled people -- or charitable assistance. And the Cleveland Clinic has no intention of putting out a lien on Canfield's house -- or letting the billing process interfere with her treatment.
flghtr65 is offline   Quote
Reply



AMPReviews.net
Find Ladies
Hot Women

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright © 2009 - 2016, ECCIE Worldwide, All Rights Reserved