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Old 08-27-2015, 03:22 PM   #106
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perhaps, but it would not jump this much in a day without a squeeze.. I just sold at $10.29, price has ebbed back to $10.05 currently.. purchased 3 days ago at $8.27, 500 shares.. made $995 after fees.

nice 24% profit in 3 days.. I'll take it.
It certainly is - why did you buy three days ago?
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It certainly is - why did you buy three days ago?
$995? I thought we were talking serious money
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I thought we were talking serious money
You will be when gasoline goes to $2.00 a gallon.
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It certainly is - why did you buy three days ago?
had a buy order in at $9.25, the Son-of-a-Bitch fell right through that at the open.. lucky me.. I expected to hold for 2-3 years, but I'd be a fool not to sell into strength like today offered.. may have sold early, fucker is at $12.12 after hours, up another 19%!!
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we are.. that is serious for me.. I didn't want to commit more money than I could hold for years.. may have been buying a falling knife like I did with Chesapeake.
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had a buy order in at $9.25, the Son-of-a-Bitch fell right through that at the open.. lucky me.. I expected to hold for 2-3 years, but I'd be a fool not to sell into strength like today offered.. may have sold early, fucker is at $12.12 after hours, up another 19%!!


we are.. that is serious for me.. I didn't want to commit more money than I could hold for years.. may have been buying a falling knife like I did with Chesapeake.
I'm holding 12 month Brent contracts. It's going to be a ride.
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You will be when gasoline goes to $2.00 a gallon.
It can do whatever it wants to in the meantime.
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Old 08-27-2015, 07:45 PM   #112
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Saudi Arabia is using $10 Billion a month to pay expenses. They're borrowing in the financial markets for the first time since 2007. Lusty Lad, this is what I was talking about them having the stomach for. How long can they stomach it?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/wo...rest.html?_r=0
No dumbass, you said "OPEC doesn't have the stomach to hold out much longer", not Saudi Arabia. OPEC is a 12-nation cartel that accounts for 40% of global oil production. It meets regularly to set production "quotas" for its members. Then everyone goes back home and cheats on them.

Now you are backtracking and saying you meant Saudi Arabia, not OPEC. Last time I checked, the Saudis had nearly $700 billion in financial reserves. They can hold out a long time if they choose. In the meantime, they don't exactly mind if low oil prices hurt Russia, Iran and US shale producers. In any event, it isn't even clear that the Saudis can wield the same pricing power today as they did in the past.

Spare us your amateurish gibberish, sewer rat. You are a dilettante and a fraud who pretends to know everything about everything. I've followed the oil markets for decades and know when to shut up and defer to the experts.



The Shale Boom Shifts Into Higher Gear

Oil production is becoming a modern manufacturing process, with frackers using the ‘just-in-time’ approach.

By DONALD L. LUSKIN And MICHAEL WARREN
May 31, 2015 4:28 p.m. ET

Have the American entrepreneurs who developed horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing—“fracking”—done their jobs too well? The increase in domestic crude oil production of 3.6 million barrels a day in less than four years, reversing almost four decades of decline, has created a spectacular macroeconomic anomaly—a crash in oil prices without a recession to cause it.

Now, in response to sharply lower prices, domestic oil producers have shed jobs and cut operating rigs by more than half. This has sent shock waves through the entire U.S. economy. The drop in fixed assets for drilling, alone, slashed about half a percentage point off first quarter gross domestic product.

The crash in oil prices wasn’t due to lower demand. Petroleum demand in the U.S. is at its highest since 2010, and demand in China is higher than ever. Nor was the crash due to monopolistic OPEC manipulation. To be sure, the cartel, led by Saudi Arabia, chose not to cut production to support falling prices. But looking at the fracking tidal wave in the U.S., OPEC was only following the old Chinese proverb: When faced with the inevitable, try to enjoy it.

Now the question is whether U.S. frackers can adapt to the lower prices they created. Fracking blossomed following the trough of the Great Recession, when oil prices were, on average and adjusted for inflation, the highest in history—even higher than in the 1970s. It was an ideal price environment for entrepreneurs to perform some very expensive experiments, ultimately learning how to drill holes two miles under a frozen prairie, turn the wellbore 90 degrees, drill out another mile or two, then hydraulically force a designer cocktail of water, sand and secret sauce down the hole to liberate petroleum molecules trapped since dinosaurs strode the earth.

The nimblest and smartest competitors have worked relentlessly to increase their productivity. Leading-edge operators report that they can produce more profitably today at a price of $65 a barrel than they could at $95 a barrel three years ago. Where can they be profitable three years hence—$40 a barrel? $30? The oil patch today is afire with the same technological imperative and competitive mission that has powered the U.S. electronics revolution—think Moore’s Law—to dash headlong down the learning curve, crushing costs and prices and making up for it in volume.

Today’s surge in production is coming predominantly from wells that are horizontally drilled and hydraulically fractured from drill pads with multiple wells. Because such wells exhaust quickly, many more of them must be drilled. The conventional wisdom is that fracking is therefore less amenable to the economies of scale exploited by traditional methods. But for today’s shale operators, that’s a feature, not a bug.

For one thing, the increase in the number of wells—which, necessarily, entails a great diversity of geologies and formations—means a commensurate increase in learning about a galaxy of processes that can be tweaked, combined and recombined to increase production and reduce costs. It’s simple: When you get more at-bats, you become a better batter.

Consider what frackers have had to learn to do. Today’s long laterals can extend up to 15,000 feet, running within undulating formations that can sprawl over hundreds of square miles. The ability to keep the drill bit in the middle of the formation has required improved 3-D seismic research and ever-increasing advances in telemetry and remote guidance, to locate and drain a productive area. It’s like learning to pilot a drone flying two miles underground, and through rock. It was difficult and expensive at first. Now it is known art.

Wells in light tight-oil formations can be drilled and completed for millions—not billions—of dollars, and the majority of the estimated recovery will occur within a year or two of bringing it on line. Capacity across a diversified portfolio of wells can be turned on when future prices justify it, and off when they don’t. That turns upside-down the traditional model of oil megaprojects that require billions in upfront capital, years of lead time, and always-on production irrespective of price.

All this means that, for the first time in history, oil production is becoming a modern manufacturing process. The frackers are engaged in “just-in-time” production, analogous to the methods pioneered by Japanese manufacturers in the 1970s and 1980s, which led directly to hyper-efficient global supply-chain management perfected by Wal-Mart in the 1990s.

And with today’s low prices, the frackers are having to adapt another lesson from Japanese manufacturing—kaizen (continuous improvement). That imperative for greater efficiency is transforming the ecosystem of firms that bring oil from shale formations to the gas tank—drillers, but also oil-service companies, railroads, pipelines and refiners.

So anyone who looks at the fall in the number of U.S. oil rigs and thinks that OPEC has won has a big surprise coming. If oil prices move up, even a little bit from here, U.S. frackers will finish hundreds of uncompleted wells, unleashing a new flood of supply. The cartel is no longer the swing producer.

Yes, additional cheap oil from OPEC could lower prices. But withholding that supply—or even a disruption to it arising from regional instability—can’t raise prices as it has in the past, because even slightly higher prices bring in waves of just-in-time production from U.S. frackers. The American fracker is the man at the margin now. And as his productivity continues to improve, that margin moves lower and lower.

Sixty years ago, American geophysicist M. King Hubbert postulated that fossil-fuel production would follow a Malthusian bell-shaped curve. This so-called Hubbert Curve predicted that U.S. oil production would peak in the 1970s and decline rapidly and permanently thereafter. King’s work has given a pseudoscientific gloss to the pronouncements of catastrophists preaching “peak oil.”

Now Hubbert’s Curve has been trumped by Moore’s Law. There will be no limits to growth in the global economy in a few years when, thanks to American ingenuity and entrepreneurship unleashed upon shale formations world-wide, oil—like transistors—becomes, for all practical purposes, free. And the lower oil prices go, the more money the frackers can make.

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I know what OPEC is dumbass. Jesus Christ you're a blowhard. I never claimed to know everything about anything. You just assumed, like the fucking idiot that you are. If you think Saudi Arabia doesn't swing a big dick at OPEC meetings, you're dumber than I thought. Go back to the shallow end of the pool, ivy leaguer.

How about you don't worry about what the fuck I'm doing. I got this far without your help and I'll be just fine without it from here on out.
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Saudi Arabia is running at a deficit currently and it's likely to remain that way because they're showing the rest of them who the big swinging dick is in the oil game. It's actually $800 billion in reserves they have, not $700. And they're also willing to let it ride just to fuck Iran in the ass. You're not telling me or anyone else anything we didn't already know, shithead. Saudis are also in direct competition with Russia to take care of China's oil needs. Just so happens that Russia is Iran's largest financial backer. The Saudis are betting they can ride this out better than Russia can. We'll see who's right.
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Saudi Arabia is using $10 Billion a month to pay expenses.… Lusty Lad, this is what I was talking about them having the stomach for. How long can they stomach it?
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Saudi Arabia is... showing the rest of them who the big swinging dick is in the oil game... And they're also willing to let it ride just to fuck Iran in the ass. You're not telling me or anyone else anything we didn't already know, shithead.
Huh? Now you're flip-flopping again like a fish out of water and AGREEING with me? First, you said they don't have the stomach to hold out... and now you say they're willing to let it all ride? Which is it, sewer rat? You don't even know what the fucking point is you're trying to make, do you? You really need to STFU because you are only making yourself look stupider and stupider with every post.

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OPEC... I mean Saudi Arabia... can't hold out much longer... I mean they're willing to let it ride... I mean... I mean... I forget the point I was making... I think I was trying to show everyone what a knowledgeable expert I am about world oil markets...




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Saudis are also in direct competition with Russia to take care of China's oil needs. Just so happens that Russia is Iran's largest financial backer. The Saudis are betting they can ride this out better than Russia can. We'll see who's right.
Russia is Iran's "largest financial backer"? Who told you that, sewer rat? Got a link? Was Russia funneling money to Tehran in violation of the sanctions over the past 4 years? You're hallucinating. Putin doesn't have money to spare, and now that the sanctions are coming off Iran doesn't need his financial backing anyway - the mullahs are getting their itchy terrorist hands on over $100 billion in unfrozen funds and can ramp up their own oil production and revenues to boot. So once again, you don't know what you're talking about. When it comes to geo-politics (like economics and global oil markets) you would be well-advised to stay on the sidelines, sewer rat.
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Huh? Now you're flip-flopping again like a fish out of water and AGREEING with me? First, you said they don't have the stomach to hold out... and now you say they're willing to let it all ride? Which is it, sewer rat? You don't even know what the fucking point is you're trying to make, do you? You really need to STFU because you are only making yourself look stupider and stupider with every post.

Let me try to sum it up for you:

OPEC... I mean Saudi Arabia... can't hold out much longer... I mean they're willing to let it ride... I mean... I mean... I forget the point I was making... I think I was trying to show everyone what a knowledgeable expert I am about world oil markets...






Russia is Iran's "largest financial backer"? Who told you that, sewer rat? Got a link? Was Russia funneling money to Tehran in violation of the sanctions over the past 4 years? You're hallucinating. Putin doesn't have money to spare, and now that the sanctions are coming off Iran doesn't need his financial backing anyway - the mullahs are getting their itchy terrorist hands on over $100 billion in unfrozen funds and can ramp up their own oil production and revenues to boot. So once again, you don't know what you're talking about. When it comes to geo-politics (like economics and global oil markets) you would be well-advised to stay on the sidelines, sewer rat.
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Ahh lustytard. Let me spell it out, so that even a retard like you can understand. They are riding it out as we speak. Who knows what a year from now will bring. Do you know? No, you don't. I don't think they have the stomach to hold out that long, but if they do, this would be why. Got it now, shitass? My point was they can stomach dipping into their reserves to run a deficit now, but will that hold?

"From the Saudi perspective, keeping the price of oil relatively low puts enormous pressure on Iran’s already strained economy."

The Saudis are willing to ride out the low oil prices because they both have large cash reserves and by doing so, they fuck Iran at the same time by not letting them get as much per barrel as they could have a year or two ago. And here's your link, shitstain:

"Finally, Saudi oil minister Ali al-Naimi has been open about the kingdom’s desire to meet all of China’s fast-growing oil needs. That puts it in direct competition with Russia, which also happens to be Iran’s chief financial backer."

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/la...-at-a-loss.ece

Geopolitically, you're an idiot. Go back to shallow end before you drown. Take Reytardo your bitch boy with you.
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Ahh lustytard. Let me spell it out... Who knows what a year from now will bring... I don't think they have the stomach to hold out that long, but if they do, this would be why. Got it now, shitass?
I get it. You started by saying something ignorant, did a little homework by reading a Dallas reporter's column, panicked and reversed yourself, and are now doing somersaults to cover up and reconcile your flip-flops and contradictions.

Sewer rats always have an escape hatch, like this one - WHO KNOWS WHAT A YEAR FROM NOW WILL BRING? You sure as hell don't. Which is why you are a wishy-washy, flip-flopping phony.

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And here's your link, shitstain:

"Finally, Saudi oil minister Ali al-Naimi has been open about the kingdom’s desire to meet all of China’s fast-growing oil needs. That puts it in direct competition with Russia, which also happens to be Iran’s chief financial backer."

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/la...-at-a-loss.ece
Hahahaha.... all you proved is that you semi-plagiarized the Dallas Morning News for your last post. Gotta do that a lot to hit your 50-post-a-day quota, right sewer rat? Look fucktard, Russia may be backing Iran in certain diplomatic and military areas (e.g. Syria and aircraft defense sytems), but not financially. Get out of the pool before you drown in the shallow end, you ignorant plagiarizing fuck. Dan Reed isn't going to save you.
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I get it. You started by saying something ignorant, did a little homework by reading a Dallas reporter's column, panicked and reversed yourself, and are now doing somersaults to cover up and reconcile your flip-flops and contradictions.

Sewer rats always have an escape hatch, like this one - WHO KNOWS WHAT A YEAR FROM NOW WILL BRING? You sure as hell don't. Which is why you are a wishy-washy flip-flopping phony.





Hahahaha.... all you proved is that you semi-plagiarized the Dallas Morning News for your last post. Gotta do that a lot to hit your 50-post-a-day quota, right sewer rat? Look fucktard, Russia may be backing Iran in certain diplomatic and military areas (e.g. Syria and missile defense sytems), but not financially. Get out of the pool before you drown in the shallow end, you ignorant plagiarizing fuck.
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Plagiarizing, from the shitheel that posts entire WSJ articles. That's rich. See, what had happened is that you jumped into some shit that you didn't know anything about. You got fucked in the ass and now you're pulling a crawdaddy crawl, but I can see the trail you're leaving behind. If you think Russia isn't backing Iran financially, you're a goddamn fool. You live in a world where everyone plays by the rules and shit always happens like it's supposed to, right? Get real, shitdick. You trust Russia to play by the rules, but you don't trust Iran to play by the rules. Epic fail. Neither one of them motherfuckers plays by the rules. You're a geopolitic neophyte. Geopolitically, you're still sucking on your momma's fat titty. Titty baby.
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I don't think the newspaper uses terms like 'big swinging dick' or speaks about Iran getting 'fucked in the ass' Wake up, turdface. I condensed the gist of it. Nothing wrong with that. Besides, I have to reduce it down so it's understood by nuthuggers like you.
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Plagiarizing, from the shitheel that posts entire WSJ articles. That's rich.
Copying and pasting quotes and articles with full attribution is the opposite of plagiarism, you disengenuous fraud. If you weren't a 7th-grade dropout you would know the difference.


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If you think Russia isn't backing Iran financially, you're a goddamn fool.... You trust Russia to play by the rules, but you don't trust Iran to play by the rules. Epic fail. Neither one of them motherfuckers plays by the rules. You're a geopolitic neophyte.
Who said they play by the rules, you halfwit cacklehead? Russia doesn't have billions lying around to prop up the mullahs. You can't cite a single big loan package or financial bailout provided by Moscow to Tehran in recent years because there aren't any. So go ask Dan Reed to show you the money or STFU. You are about as well-versed in geopolitics as you are familiar with the world of classy, upscale, attractive non-backpage escort companions.
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