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07-25-2015, 06:49 AM
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Fail, attempting to equate an abortion with the holocaust.
The patient in an abortion procedure is the woman, if she donates the tissue then that's her decision. . . I understand if u disagree with abortion but that's a different argument.
Ill put it this way, lets say the use of this tissue is banned. . . would you stop opposing abortion? of course not, this is a circus side show and a publicity stunt.
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07-25-2015, 06:51 AM
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The OP is about selling parts of the fetus, not the abortion. The law prohibiting the practices as described by the PP physicians on the videos is already on the books. Congress made that decision, and it passed the White House smell test.
But I can understand why you would want to redirect the discussion .... trying to justify committing a Federal felony requires some mental gymnastics, if not some diversion from the reality. So you liberals look the other way to avoid dealing with the facts.
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Dealing with the facts?
So you have convicted PPH without a trial
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07-25-2015, 06:54 AM
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Dealing with the facts?
So you have convicted PPH without a trial
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No, that's what you do. Remember Zimmerman?
You convicted him of "something" .... before a jury was even selected.
You get "facts" and "opinions" confused on a regular basis. I don't.
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07-25-2015, 07:41 AM
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No, that's what you do. Remember Zimmerman?
You convicted him of "something" .... before a jury was even selected.
You get "facts" and "opinions" confused on a regular basis. I don't.
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No I speculated he would be convicted. If I remember correctly , I speculated that after the jury had been selected but before the trial had started.
So are you speculating that PPH committed a crime of selling body parts when you post the this?
Originally Posted by LexusLover
The OP is about selling parts of the fetus, not the abortion. The law prohibiting the practices as described by the PP physicians on the videos is already on the books
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07-25-2015, 08:05 AM
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You get "facts" and "opinions" confused on a regular basis. I don't.
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I could not help but laugh when I read the above quote!
These words of inebriated wisdom were brought to you by the same 'simple minded' Idiot who still gets the "facts" and "opinions" confused, as it relates to the ill fated and ill advised, Spring of 2003 invasion of Iraq.
LLIdiot is gulpin' his 'Special Elixir' mighty early this AM, isn't he?
In fact, LLIdiot is so confused that he "still" can not answer the following "yes" or "no" question:
"If you knew during the Spring of 2003 what we know now, would you have (strike the word "still") supported the invasion of Iraq?"
As for me, my answer is "still" an emphatic NO!
What's your answer, LLIdiot?
Or, do you "still" have your "facts" and "opinions" confused?
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07-25-2015, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
The OP is about selling parts of the fetus, not the abortion. The law prohibiting the practices as described by the PP physicians on the videos is already on the books. Congress made that decision, and it passed the White House smell test.
But I can understand why you would want to redirect the discussion .... trying to justify committing a Federal felony requires some mental gymnastics, if not some diversion from the reality. So you liberals look the other way to avoid dealing with the facts.
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
OMG judy, the woman and the Dr both have to sign a release form for the procedure to take place, and the material to be donated. PP provides a safe place for the abortion to take place, counselling, a sterile environment, a Dr. For that they receive $30.-$100. for S&H ,yep they are really raking in the money. This has been used for the R&D of the polio and rubella vaccines. Currently working on MS, and Alzheimer Vaccine.
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Want to try again lexie?
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07-25-2015, 11:26 AM
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I'll put it this way, lets say the use of this tissue is banned. . . would you stop opposing abortion? of course not, this is a circus side show and a publicity stunt.
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Whether I personally oppose SOME abortions or ALL abortions is irrelevant. What is relevant here is that an overwhelming majority (84%) of Americans DO oppose SOME abortions (i.e., late-term ones) but not ALL abortions. They think abortion should be legal - but strictly limited.
This is not a circus or a publicity stunt - you irresponsible, morally dead libtards brought it on yourselves by demanding UNLIMITED, taxpayer-funded abortion on demand. The reaction to the videos and the backlash against PP merely underscores how completely out of touch you are with the American public on this issue.
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the fetus at the time of abortion is not a living entity on its own, its not viable outside the womb. . . hence the roe v wade S.C. decision.
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WRONG! Even the landmark Roe v. Wade decision (1973) you cite stated that fetuses are viable outside the womb at 24 weeks:
The United States Supreme Court stated in Roe v. Wade (1973) that viability (i.e., the "interim point at which the fetus becomes ... potentially able to live outside the mother's womb, albeit with artificial aid") "is usually placed at about seven months (28 weeks) but may occur earlier, even at 24 weeks."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_viability.
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07-25-2015, 11:57 AM
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This has been used for the R&D of the polio and rubella vaccines. Currently working on MS, and Alzheimer Vaccine.
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So what you're saying is that anyone who objects to crushing 8-month fetuses in the womb (i.e., 84% of Americans according to polls) is standing in the way of the advancement of medical science?
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Want to try again, Dr. Mengele?
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07-25-2015, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
The OP is about selling parts of the fetus, not the abortion. The law prohibiting the practices as described by the PP physicians on the videos is already on the books. Congress made that decision, and it passed the White House smell test.
But I can understand why you would want to redirect the discussion .... trying to justify committing a Federal felony requires some mental gymnastics, if not some diversion from the reality. So you liberals look the other way to avoid dealing with the facts.
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Yep, it has been revealed that Planned Parenthood has been making a nice profit off selling the aborted babies to researchers. This while also collecting half a billion tax payer dollars through Obama.
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Want to try again lexie?
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Yes, but I believe it will not do any good.
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07-25-2015, 02:49 PM
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Yes, but I believe it will not do any good.
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Good boy, don't let any facts confuse you.
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07-25-2015, 02:51 PM
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Want to try again, Dr. Mengele?
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So what you're saying is that anyone who objects to crushing 8-month fetuses in the womb (i.e., 84% of Americans according to polls) is standing in the way of the advancement of medical science.
Thank you, Dr. Mengele!
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Spoken like the idiot you are. Please provide a link to where I said that, moron.
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07-25-2015, 02:55 PM
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Whether I personally oppose SOME gun control or ALL guns banned is irrelevant. What is relevant here is that an overwhelming majority (84%) of Americans DO oppose SOME gun control (i.e.,closing gun show loop hole) but not ALL out gun ban. They think guns should be legal - but strictly limited.
The reaction to the murders and the backlash against Sandy Hook merely underscores how completely out of touch you are with the American public on this issue.
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07-25-2015, 03:09 PM
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Please provide a link to where I said that, moron.
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Having trouble 'splaining yourself, little eva mengele?
You said approvingly that organ tissue from late-term abortions (they have to be late term to yield discrete organs) is being used in medical R&D to develop vaccines for polio, rubella, MS and alzheimers, right?
Is that an argument for or against abortion?
P.S. Dr. Jonas Salk in Pittsburgh already developed a polio vaccine back in 1953.
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07-25-2015, 03:16 PM
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"Please provide a link to where I said that, moron."
Having trouble 'splaining yourself, little eva mengele?
You said approvingly that organ tissue from late-term abortions (they have to be late term to have discrete organs) is being used in medical R&D to develop vaccines for polio, rubella, MS and alzheimers, right?
Is that an argument for or against abortion?
P.S. Dr. Jonas Salk in Pittsburgh already developed a polio vaccine back in 1953.
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LMAO, late term abortions, just your words liar. Yes Salk did with tissue donated fool, grow up and STFU if you don't know what you are babbling about.
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07-25-2015, 03:16 PM
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P.S. Dr. Jonas Salk in Pittsburgh already developed a polio vaccine back in 1953.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine
A breakthrough came in 1948 when a research group headed by John Enders at the Children's Hospital Boston successfully cultivated the poliovirus in human tissue in the laboratory. [60] This group had recently successfully grown mumps in cell culture. In March 1948 Thomas H. Weller was attempting to grow varicella virus in embryonic lung tissue. He had inoculated the planned number of tubes when he noticed that there were a few unused tubes. He retrieved a sample of mouse brain infected with polio virus and added it to the remaining test tubes, on the off chance that the virus might grow. The varicella cultures failed to grow but the polio cultures were successful.
This development greatly facilitated vaccine research and ultimately allowed for the development of vaccines against polio. Enders and his colleagues, Thomas H. Weller and Frederick C. Robbins, were recognized in 1954 for their labors with a Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine. [61]
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