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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
The 1st and 5th amendment rights are political in nature while the idea of marriage is religious at its root.
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Says who? Religious people? Is that their way of declaring themselves in control of an issue?
You are an idiot. But we already knew that.
Marriage predates all of the Abrahamic religions. Even prehistoric tribes with no recognizable religious principles had marriage as an institution.
Religion does not get to control marriage, any more than it gets to control divorce, or sex, or dietary laws, or clothing.
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
Marriage is fundamental to the understanding of a religion. Each religion has slightly different rules but just about every mainstream religion does share one thing; marriage is between a man and a woman.
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SO WHAT?
The fact that a religion has some set of rules that it follows regarding marriage does NOT mean that society cannot make up its own, different rules. Have you not heard of the First Amendment? Separation of church and state?
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
Government intruded for tax and property reasons and should be out of that business.
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Who cares WHY government intruded? It has the power to do so, plain and simple.
What is your alternative, asshole? Let's say government gets out of the marriage business - whatever that means.
What happens when a married man dies? Does his property go to his wife? How so? Government - and its laws - are out of the marriage business, right?
So if the siblings of the deceased don't like the widow, can they just reclaim their brother's property? Because that is what could happen to a gay spouse?
What about if a man is arrested and the cops want to interrogate the wife? Can she assert spousal privileges NOT to talk to the police if the government is out of the marriage business?
If government is not in the marriage business and a man who lives in an apartment dies, can the landlord evict the widow without restriction?
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
Let each church decide if they believe or want to recognize gay marriage. Leave that up to the worshippers and not some judge with an agenda.
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Strawman argument once again.
This isn't about what churches want or believe.
It is about what the law permits and protects. The LAW decides inheritance rights, NOT churches. The LAW decides spousal immunity, NOT churches. The LAW decides tenants rights, NOT churches. The LAW decides who insurance companies and healthcare companies have to cover under their policies, NOT churches.
Try to remember that the First Amendment is a double edged sword. Freedom of religion also means freedom FROM religion.
Your particular set of beliefs about what the invisible man in the clouds wants does NOT control the laws of society.